Dagonay is like a closet homo, or something. Always preaching the evils of it, while being the biggest, hypocritical pole-smoker out there. Later on, we'll find out he's in the top 5% of bandwidth hogs, with a huge portion of that bandwidth dedicated to gay, midget, tranny porn starring Anthony Espinosa and his burly lover, Sonny the Liar.

Shaw is traded on the TSX, right? It might be a good time to buy some of their stock. I agree that what Shaw has done is somewhat sleazy, but it's not exactly easy to innovate and generate growth from an industry facing declining revenues (TV).

I spend a lot of time online, but it's mostly reading news and forums, watching the odd video, etc. I probably use 5-10 gigs a month. Even if you have 4 grown adults in your household who are computer enthusiasts, why are you downloading 200 gigs+ a month? I live on my own in a small apartment and aside from Canucks games, I don't have the time to even watch a movie or TV series more than once a week if I'm lucky. Most of the streamed media out there is way less than HD, so that doesn't explain your usage. And even if you're downloading HD content, why are you watching it on your PC? I'd rather spend 10 bucks on an actual Blu-Ray disc and watch the content on my audiophile home theatre set-up.

Just admit it - you guys spend way too much time on your PCs.

Hmmm I'm looking at the bundles from telus and they look pretty decent.

Looking to get all three services, phone, internet and cable w/ the HD pick.

Any recommendations?

That is your own personal preference.

That's like me saying I like watching all my movies in the theatres instead of buying a $10 blu-ray and you should too.

You clearly don't know where to get your stuff if you're still watching non-HD shows and movies. EVERYTHING has HD versions now (movies, tv shows etc)

Why would I waste bandwidth on gay porn when I can just make my own? You should come over and join us one night. We'll cure your dependance on pussy 6" at a time.
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yeah i'd like to know as well about the telus optik package
looking to get all three services too, any first hand experience?
dont want to sign a 3 year contract for shitty service

some ppl do leave their lights on all day even when no one's home. or blast the heat with the window open for air circulation but their rent includes any bills. everyone knows that bandwidth isn't free, but ppl feel jibbed when they pay for a monthly service that includes limits; limits that apparently are getting tighter as storage media is getting cheaper and media content is getting larger in size? y even evolve to 1440p resolutions in the future when no one is willing to or can afford the bandwidth for these high resolutions? guess we'll still be stuck with mailing things instead of streaming.

i don't get it, it's so personal for you lol. what does me stating an example of a typical family have to do with mr. woob or anyone else in this thread. shaw's limits doesn't work for any home with more than a single person in it. when you divide their limits by 2, 3, 4 it's not a lot. yet surfing or chatting requires little speed bandwidth so no average family is willing to fork out extra $.

again, you must be a great parent. just 'cause the tv's on, doesn't mean the kid's in front of it at all times. do you have kids? how do they feel about you trolling on RS?

ppl get so fucking defensive when a majority of users are against them. rarely is there a good argument going on. we get it, u use less than some of us so we're the bad guys. we d/l movies, music, porn, games, programs. u don't d/l anything illegal. u spend tons on itunes purchases. ur a saint lol. maybe you feel strongly about paying for health care costs for other ppl too when you're healthy. GTFO.

i'm think optik tv is pretty cool, but i heard that their bandwidth maximum only supports 2 hd and 1 sd feed at the same time and i dunno if that affects the internet portion too, but for light users i think it is great. haven't had it, never will just coz i like my staff package at shaw. the only downside i can think of with telus is they will charge you for a service technician if they send one out and only to discover it's the cx's own problem + contract

I agree that if Shaw were reducing the data caps on their plans without reducing prices, that would be a pretty bullshit dick move.

That being said, I'm on the regular High Speed plan and I've known that since the day I signed up for the service that my "Cap" was 60GB.

What I WANT is no monthly fee, no plan, no "Cap", just a CRTC regulated rate for all ISP's per GB. Make it like another base utility into the house.

A rep from Telus told me last night that each Optik TV feed can use about 4Mbps.

Considering the Telus Optik High Speed Turbo has a max of 25Mbps and you're looking at roughly 17Mbps speed if you're running an average of 2 tv feeds at any time.

I'm on Novus (with a consistent 20 MBPS) with a wired connection and even I can't stream HD without buffering, so what's the point? I doubt anyone here is off the cable TV, so why not just PVR TV shows instead of streaming them online? Maybe everyone here watches stuff on HBO and AMC (Entourage, Dexter, Mad Men, etc.), which then I can understand the need to stream.

I was actually referring to downloading shows.

Why stream when you can just queue them all up and watch once they're done?

^^ I haven't watch TV in months beside hockey games. If I want to watch something I stream it. With a computer/laptop I can watch it on my bed. I don't need to go buy another HD PVR, a new HD TV, and pay SHAW for an additional terminal fee every month.

If my parents want to watch something they stream it onto the TV.

Fair enough.

But, as I've said, here's the dilemma for a cable company: if no one is willing to pay for cable service (because downloading is "free"), how are they supposed to make money and deliver steady returns to their shareholders?

I don't know how much it costs to carry bandwidth for the average telco, but I do know that coaxial cable is limited in terms of the data it can carry. Eventually, they're going to have to convert to fibre optic wires to meet consumer demands and perhaps bringing in hard caps is in recognition of the fact that Shaw doesn't have the infrastructure to meet the demand and/or they're trying to raise cash to fund infrastructure upgrades.

^^ If SHAW can't meet the demand they will either need to upgrade thier hardware or Stop singing up new services.

If they say they can offer say 15mb/s download then I should expect 15mb/s all day not what's happening now. Where during busy time the speed goes down to 7mbs/s. Rather than upgrading their hardware to provide better service they rather bill customer so no one is going over their limit.

If SHAW true intention is to provide better service they can simply throttled BT and P2P traffic during the day (which they do it now anyways) and say between 2am to 5am the don't throttle any BT P2P traffic. What this does is it will make people do their download at night where no one is actively using it, clear their nodes during the day so everyone gets a faster connection.

Let's put it this way it cost SHAW less than 20cents (most lilkely less than that)per GB if they do purchase it from an upstream provider. Since SHAW already have the cable wire to your suite it doesn't cost them anything more to provide you the extra bandwidth coz will the hardware is already installed.

Very interesting the USA and the FCC voted on Net-Neutrality today; Global just said people are going to be charged based on usage now?

i did a quick google search but didnt find anything on fees

Does anyone plan to do anything more than complain on RS?

Switching to Telus as soon as this come into effect and I see this on my bill.

And what if 6 months down the road Telus adds caps?

+1
thats fine as long as they dont do it how shaw did it. shaw bumped up the caps to 125 gb for extreme awhile ago and then w/o notice or anything they lowered them to 100gb as soon netflix was introduced in canada

who saids it's coming into effect effective this month? =\ even after this comes into effect you still have a month or 2 before they send u warning letter than start charging you for it.. so to say no warning?

Optik High Speed Turbo..

250GB/month limit..

should be enough for most of us :)

available in Richmond in my area.. :D

ill still market teksavvy who leases lines from telus. had unlimited dl cap but after bell complained in the east bumped down to 200gb
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You ever stop to consider that you're the problem (or someone like you downloading far more than they need)? Shaw networks have no trouble keeping up with normal demands (including streaming HD content) to all their customers. Same with Telus, or their Optik service couldn't work.

Anything like what? Complain to a company selling a commodity that you should get unlimited use (or very high limits) without paying anymore than the next guy?

Why not tell your cell phone company that even though you signed up to 500 minutes per month, that if you go over you shouldn't be charged? Or tell BC Hydro that you should be able to use unlimited electricity without getting charged?


If you need more bandwidth than your neighbor, then you should pay more. Shaw and Telus have always had bandwidth caps - they just never really enforced them until now. Why are you complaining? You knew Shaw had a limit - did you think you could get away with going over forever?

I thought the issue was that the cap was set at 125gb then it was lowered to 100gb for seemingly no reason?

It's more like you signing up for 500 minutes per month then your cellular company decides that you should only have 400 minutes instead.