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Old 02-18-2011, 09:25 AM   #126
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3. Vancouver is a well known city now after the Olympics so there is a good chance many American players would not mind playing here. Vancouver got to showcase how beautiful the city is.
And how many NBA players actually watched the Winter Olympics?

If Toronto can't keep players, then what makes you think that Vancouver can? Vancouver is still seen as a backwater by the ignorant players (which constitutes 90% of the NBA.)
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K you guys are simply trippin on the Raptors this is their attendance record with a medicore team

2011 - 16,371
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2011 they lost Bosh but are still filling in seats. Toronto raptors is a solid franchise. Stern is disappointed about moving the Grizzlies in the first place. TO went through the same struggle and now their Franchise value tripled.
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And how many NBA players actually watched the Winter Olympics?

If Toronto can't keep players, then what makes you think that Vancouver can? Vancouver is still seen as a backwater by the ignorant players (which constitutes 90% of the NBA.)
What don't you understand about Hard Cap's and franchise tags. Vancouver will NOT get a team if the NBA keeps the soft cap that they have now but with the new CBA agreement the salary caps will be similar to the NHL's with a NFL type of Franchise Tag.

So for example we can put a Franchise tag on Chris Paul and he HAS to play for Vancouver. Plus teams wont be able to super stack their team.
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even with a franchise tag and a hard cap, Vancouver will have to overpay to keep/get legitimate franchise players

overpaying for players = unscuccessfull franchise
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^vancouver in the NBA will be like Edmonton in the NHL. overpaying players that dont want to play there. sure you may get some good players, but the players have to fit a system.

the difference between a shitty team and a good team is a good team signs players that fit a specific spot in the puzzle, a shitty team team signs whatever players they can get, and try to build the puzzle around them
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^vancouver in the NBA will be like Edmonton in the NHL. overpaying players that dont want to play there. sure you may get some good players, but the players have to fit a system.

the difference between a shitty team and a good team is a good team signs players that fit a specific spot in the puzzle, a shitty team team signs whatever players they can get, and try to build the puzzle around them
a vancouver team has the best luck at getting steve nash..............without a doubt!
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Old 02-18-2011, 01:37 PM   #132
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^vancouver in the NBA will be like Edmonton in the NHL. overpaying players that dont want to play there. sure you may get some good players, but the players have to fit a system.

the difference between a shitty team and a good team is a good team signs players that fit a specific spot in the puzzle, a shitty team team signs whatever players they can get, and try to build the puzzle around them
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sports are a business first and foremost, people who do not understand the business aspects of professional sports franchises look at a failing franchise that continues to get high first round draft picks as a "team that will be good one day"

the simple matter of the fact is, regardless of how many excellent first round players you get during season after season of horrible performance, if you cannot attract the key players you need to compliment/develop those first rounders you will -never- win, if you need to pay a guy who you think is needed as a role player on your team 1.35 times what a good team would have given him, that extra money on the table just handcuffed a position deeper in the line you will need to be a contender.

Like the Oilers/Raptors, Vancouver could get pick after pick but they will almost certainly toil in mediocrity for many many years upon their comeback, and like the oilers/raptors, will almost never be in contention for a championship.
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And as of right now the Hornets are in 7th place and look at the team were getting

Chris Paul, Marco Belineili, Trevor Ariza, David West, Emeka Okafur

If Chris Paul doesn't want to play here we should trade him to Goldenstate for Jeremy Lin, Stephan Curry and David Lee + draft pics.

Most likely after the CBA Chris Paul wont be able to leave so even better if they move to Vancouver put a franchise tag so therefore he aint leaving


Why are you talking like Vancouver/Aquilini has already been granted a team? What's this "We" stuff and trade speculation?

We, as in Vancouver, do NOT have an NBA franchise.
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Rudy Gay! bring him over here. he's tearing it up in memphis!
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cant we just wait until the year they have a crosby/lebron #1 pick overall phenom and we purchase the team?

oh derrick rose...
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Rudy Gay! bring him over here. he's tearing it up in memphis!
And also bring over Kevin Love from the Timberwolves... then we would have the dreaded Gay/Love combination.
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Like the Oilers/Raptors, Vancouver could get pick after pick but they will almost certainly toil in mediocrity for many many years upon their comeback, and like the oilers/raptors, will almost never be in contention for a championship.
Even with this, I'd still prefer to have a team here. Canucks have been shitty for most of their history . Does that mean it was a mistake bringing them here in 1970? Should we have waited until the last NHL CBA was inked before we thought about expansion? It's called sports, not guaranteed win night.

Who knows what the new NBA CBA will look like? Maybe China will start mass producing basketball players. Or maybe not, whatever. If it works financially, we should bring one here just because it's more fun to see more sports.

I don't like soccer, but I'm not gonna shit on the MLS cuz I know there's ppl who do like it. Good for them.
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NBA talk has heated up since the new arena planned in Sacramento are running into problems..

Nothing official on NBA coming to Vancouver: Aquilini

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1. The dollar at par, growth of the city and the corporate infrastructure could work
2. The NBA has said that they ADMIRE how well CSE(canucks sports and entertainment) has grown and operate
3. RogersArena is NBA ready. if the NBA were to host a game there tonight, it can be done
4. Competing with the Canucks for the same dollars, does it work
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NBA talk has heated up since the new arena planned in Sacramento are running into problems..

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3. RogersArena is NBA ready. if the NBA were to host a game there tonight, it can be done
4. Competing with the Canucks for the same dollars, does it work
Grizzlies 2.0? It is possible.
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if the Maloof brothers arent selling the team, i dont see them coming here
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Good ol' Stu. He was the GM for US Basketball in Athens in the 2004 Olympics. How can you possibly fuck up on that. Even if a lot of the Star Players didn't join, you had AI and TD in their prime. Just add a bunch of semi all-star veterans willing to win the Gold Medal and you're set.
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