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Old 04-19-2012, 05:37 PM   #201
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haha exactly.

If you check out the crowds in the past exhibition games and Steve Nash Charity Games, the crowds are mostly white and surprisingly - blacks (like wow, where do the blacks hide in the city ?) .
If Kings were to move here, and were somehow able to get JLin here to play.

Let see, how many Blacks vs White vs Banana Skin Color are at the seat.

You'll probably notice, more Chinese Grandma or C-lais in Kings attendance than you would see in Canucks game in which you have all kind of age groups to be the fan base.

However, it would probably be terrible idea, since the ticket price would be higher than normal, the Asian will also behind the ticket price scalping like the housing price =(
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Not all owner have their main goal is to win Championship, mostly they just want to make profit. Right not, Kings in Sac is not making any profit.
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needs chinese players in the team for it to work in vancouver. all the fobs would buy up all season tickets in a heartbeat.
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needs chinese players in the team for it to work in vancouver. all the fobs would buy up all season tickets in a heartbeat.
They thought the samething with a franchise white player, aka Big Country. That worked out splendid.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:48 PM   #207
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the NBA is one of those pro sports leagues where you can screw and fck up anything and everything you touch, leave your job and go work for another team or end up in the NBA front office like Stu. Stu hit teh big payday when he moved up, me and my friends always joke around how he must have had some major dirt on some bigshot NBA execs to have weaseled his way into that job.

Happens with head coaches all the time especially they just move to another team when they get fired or leave, on a similar note I can't understate how idiotic it is to have a guy who used to be a gotdang video co-ordinator (yes the guy with no playing nor coaching background whatsoever in the video room chopping up clips making copies for players) to move his ass up all the way to head coaching position. That just blows my mind, and there's a handful of coaches like that in the NBA currently, it's almost like going from the mail room to being CEO of a company.
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Never say never.

LA Laker was crappy team before they got Paul/Odom.
I stopped reading d87c's posts after this....Clearly, someone who thinks a guy named Paul Gasol plays for the Lakers doesn't know what he's talking about...
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Never say never.

LA Laker was crappy team before they got Paul/Odom. They even thought about trading Kobe haha.

Boston is another example, before Ray Allen, KG, they were on terrible, lost tons of games.

Vancouver Grizzlies was a team at that time due to not enough fan base. All I can say is the timing wasn't right at that time

Look at it now after they moved, with hiring the right GM and Coaches, they were able to change everything around with more fan base in Memphis. They beat San Antonio and almost beat OKC in last year's playoff

Another example would be the Seattle Sonic, now the OKC Thunder. Smart GM, lands 2 big superstars through draft.

Memphis/OKC even tho they can't compare to City like LA, to attract free agents. But with the Right Hiring of GM any team can be successful.

Btw, wouldn't you agree the Vancouver City > Memphis , Vancouver > OKC?

If Basketball would come here again, and more and more mainlander from China, HK, Taiwan immigrates here, I would like to see how many seats Canucks and XXX Basketball sells. Maybe Canucks will in the beginning, but I highly doubt it will stay that way

AGAIN.. the asian population would make a small chunk of what would support the team. Selling tickets is only HALF the issue here. Corporate support is whats going to drive the team to success. Ownership is also going to play an important factor. No owner is stupid enough to try to bring a team to vancouver and even try to take a chunk of revenue from the Canucks. Unless Canucks Sports and Entertainment are the ones making the NBA possible in town, the NBA isn't going to come here. At the same time, the speculation around the NBA is that unless IT IS Aquilini owning a team, there is no chance in hell that Vancouver is going to get a team.

The Grizzlies failed because of the dollar, bad management and the owners just ddint support the team. Understand that during that time, the Canucks were NOT in the best shape either, and was slowly slowly on the rebuild.

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Vancouver would undoubtedly be known as "China's" team with all the investors here coming from the Mainland. Just think of Mariners and Ichiro. Everyone in Japan knows the Mariners because of Ichiro and half of their ads have some sort of Japanese in them. Likewise, if a NBA team do land themselves in Vancouver again and given that we have some decent Asian players, the team will be backed by not only fans in Vancouver but their origin - China.

Monetary support will not be an issue

But all these may just be wishful thinking
The Mariners work because Nintendo owns them. Unless theres a big name COMING from China to play on this team, you can kiss chinese sponsorship goodbye.

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Not all owner have their main goal is to win Championship, mostly they just want to make profit. Right not, Kings in Sac is not making any profit. However, moving to Vancouver, would definitely be a good investment. Moreover, if they were to get JLin, to play for them, I dont know if everyone will be talking about Canucks, or the Basketball team. Even if JLin turns out to be not as big as a star like that week of amazing performance, it would still be best advertising tool to make a lot of money like how Huston use Yao Ming, but Yao was a great player. All in all, as long as owners can make money, whether is through ticket sales or advertisement, owners will tend to move to that area.

Furthermore, look how JLin created a hugh buzz. He plays for New York, not even here in Vancouver. He affected a lot of countries.

Since when Canucks, were able to create that kind of buzz like how Lin, 1 person, did.

Also, have you seen Floyd Mayweather making fun of Canucks or ESPN =)

J-Lin created BUZZ...and he plays in NYC...ever heard of the "east coast biased media"? Your also comparing the NHL to the NBA... yea good luck with that.

Vancouver needs a player in which the NBA needs to HELP market from the ground up in order for it to work. Yao Ming's camp along with the Rockets and the NBA had a buncha deals and such in place to make it happen. Its why you see Chinese advertising at Rockets games.

At the same time, the NBA left this city with a really big sour note. its why you see so many haters about the subject.

Lastly, this is my own personal opinion, the building is gonna be a key factor. CSE owns the building, meaning another ownership group brinigng in a team will need to work out a lease with them. Have fun competing with a GIANT in this city for the same dollars
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don't know Bob Ackles is, lol, but just off the top of my head this year that I know off, I'm pretty sure there is more, yea Erik Spoelstra (heat), Kalen Canales (blazers) Frank Vogel (pacers)




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don't know Bob Ackles is, lol, but just off the top of my head this year that I know off, I'm pretty sure there is more, yea Erik Spoelstra (heat), Kalen Canales (blazers) Frank Vogel (pacers)
Frank Vogel has done a fucking TREMENDOUS job with the Pacers....That team was 100x better when he took over midseason last year.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:25 PM   #212
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:28 PM   #213
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NBA is a sport that is only successful if there are superstars without it, its just a mickey mouse team. Toronto cant even attract stars to stay although they drafted some pretty high end forwards.

Rather have a MLB team here and just chill at the baseball stadium on a hot summer day in Vancouver. They should model the stadium by waterfront similar to AT&T park (SF giants)



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fck's sake, lol

Damn, epitome of laziness in big cunt right there.

Seriously, big man, soft hands, damn dude, what a waste. Hire a a personal trainer ad personal chef and work out everyday.

I still remember the article about his mom serving him 10 fried eggs, a dozen pancakes, and tons of bacon every morning during the off season. Seriously ? wtf man..
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don't know Bob Ackles is,


Bob Ackles was the first-ever water boy for the BC Lions when they started... rose to eventually be a bigwig with the CFL, NFL, played a major part in forming the XFL, and came back to be president of the Lions and help bring them out of teh suck they were in for most of the late 90s.

I've never been big on reading bios, but his is really amazing. Check it out sometime, if you know how to read.



Yeah, he looked like a dorky, geeky little guy... but he was absolutely brilliant in sports business.
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Vancouver will never get a MLB team. You need big money to even have a remote chance of competing with the powerhouse teams. Look at the condition of the Seattle M's; they had the lowest attendance ever last night with something like a 11,000 fans showing up. And it's going to take them a few years just to have a shot at the post season.
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