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Daniel Craig, an English actor famous for his role as James Bond has decided to support equality by cross dressing in a video made by We Are Equals. The video sees Craig in a dramatic makeover as he puts himself in a woman’s shoes. The Englishman known for his subtle and suave personality in 007, looks ostensibly tame. He does not speak in the video as his boss, M (voiced by Dame Judi Dench), provides statistics about women in the workforce and their efforts to achieve true equality with men.
So do you guys believe that equality exists between men and women?
I've looked at the #s and while in some countries men and women are closer to equal in not a single one are they when you look at all the factors - pay, crime, education, government participation, women in management and property ownership.
In fact it was kind of interesting an interview was talking about how the rates of women in influential positions is the same across the board. Rates of women in high level government positions in the US - 10%, women movie directors, also 10%.
In Canada, of the 308 members of the house of commons we have only 67 female members. Further more out of 82 Federal Judges, only 22 are women. And though there's actually MORE women then men in university, men still make up the bulk of the population in sciences, math and business and when you look at graduate degrees, more go to men then women.
While the Canadian government touts it's great strides in our country having more women in managerial positions than most this is still only 35% and even in industries (retail, fashion, childcare, education) where women greatly outnumber men, men consistently outnumber women in managerial/leadership roles.
Roughly half of Canadian women (51%) will experience some form of physical or sexual abuse AFTER 16 (so this does not include child abuse rates, if you factor them in the number increases substancially) and as you read this one or two Canadian women are being murdered by either a father, brother, spouse, partner or ex boyfriend.
As far as income, Canada was ranked 12th out of 17 peer countries for gender descrepencies (just below the US, up two spots from the UK).
These numbers are consistent amongst all demographics.
Are we equal? Yes. Are we treated as equal? No.
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Last edited by TheNewGirl; 03-08-2011 at 02:58 PM.
Roughly half of Canadian women (51%) will experience some form of physical or sexual abuse AFTER 16 (so this does not include child abuse rates, if you factor them in the number increases substancially) and as you read this one or two Canadian women are being murdered by either a father, brother, spouse, partner or ex boyfriend.
I highly doubt this is true, you don't see every other girl in highschool cry rape.
no we're not equals, men shell out trillions of dollars annually to designing their lives to impress women. there's billions of decent, lonely men because women are still bound by their primitive instincts of going for the flamboyant alpha males.
women know they can get cock easily by spreading their legs at a bar or club but men have to either be blessed naturally, or bust their nuts off trying to get to a higher level.
theres just two social norms here, women are dominant in the social life and men are dominant at work. that sounds damn equal to me
PS, thanks for ruining daniel craig for me. the guy's literally a tool for a dumb cause
I've looked at the #s and while in some countries men and women are closer to equal in not a single one are they when you look at all the factors - pay, crime, education, government participation, women in management and property ownership.
In fact it was kind of interesting an interview was talking about how the rates of women in influential positions is the same across the board. Rates of women in high level government positions in the US - 10%, women movie directors, also 10%.
In Canada, of the 308 members of the house of commons we have only 67 female members. Further more out of 82 Federal Judges, only 22 are women. And though there's actually MORE women then men in university, men still make up the bulk of the population in sciences, math and business and when you look at graduate degrees, more go to men then women.
While the Canadian government touts it's great strides in our country having more women in managerial positions than most this is still only 35% and even in industries (retail, fashion, childcare, education) where women greatly outnumber men, men consistently outnumber women in managerial/leadership roles.
Roughly half of Canadian women (51%) will experience some form of physical or sexual abuse AFTER 16 (so this does not include child abuse rates, if you factor them in the number increases substancially) and as you read this one or two Canadian women are being murdered by either a father, brother, spouse, partner or ex boyfriend.
As far as income, Canada was ranked 12th out of 17 peer countries for gender descrepencies (just below the US, up two spots from the UK).
These numbers are consistent amongst all demographics.
Are we equal? Yes. Are we treated as equal? No.
51% are suffer abuse? Haha WTF?
Here are some facts.
Women and men are:
Physiologically different
Psychologically different
Physically different.
Hence they are going to fit different niches in society. Women and men are different, and every time the world 'equal' is used, I cringe.
Yes women and men both deserving of all the basic needs of life, yes I agree. WOMEN HAVE ALL OF THAT ALREADY. However, but they are going to fulfill different niches in life.
You want to complain about women in the House of Commons? Who cares? Are you saying that we should have 50/50 women in the house of commons? Why not also whine about how in nursing there is only 4.5% men?
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And though there's actually MORE women then men in university, men still make up the bulk of the population in sciences, math and business and when you look at graduate degrees, more go to men then women.
And who's fault is that exactly? I didn't know that markers of exam papers looked at the sex of the student and then disproportionately grade it. Bottom line is, man or woman, if you have the grades... you can do anything in university.
Gender equality isn't even an issue in today's modern society IMO. I still stand by the fact that if you're a hardworking, smart, educated woman, you can do anything. Please give me some evidence otherwise.
Yes we should have black people in the house of commons. And hispanic people. And more indian people and asian people too. I'm pro equality all over the place.
As for who's fault it is that there's more men going further in education... it's our parent's fault. They're more likely to suport their sons through post secondary but worse, they taught their sons they could be doctors. And indoctrinated their daughters with pretty princess bull shit that taught them to be spoiled little dolls.
And yes. 51%. So if you have female friends... you know the way some of you talk I'm not sure you even know what a female is but if you do have female friends and family members take a look around.
Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
You know. I could live with making 90 cents on the dollar if half the women in my life hadn't had to put up with that shit.
BRN32 > you have just demonstrated the exact bull shit justification used to continue to propagate the the above mentioned shit. Congradulations. You're part of the problem. You deserve to have your bank account raped by what ever gold digging bitches can get there and to never ever get laid while they're at if if that's your outlook on the other gender.
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Last edited by TheNewGirl; 03-08-2011 at 05:31 PM.
You deserve to have your bank account raped by what ever gold digging bitches can get there and to never ever get laid while they're at if if that's your outlook on the other gender.
um.. care to explain in more detail other than i've been propagating the the exact bullshit which warrants a misspelled 'congratulations'? if you elaborated a bit more on why you disagree with my opinion (which is more like an observation) then maybe we can discuss this in equal terms.
Half of them have been raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
I've looked at the #s and while in some countries men and women are closer to equal in not a single one are they when you look at all the factors - pay, crime, education, government participation, women in management and property ownership.
In fact it was kind of interesting an interview was talking about how the rates of women in influential positions is the same across the board. Rates of women in high level government positions in the US - 10%, women movie directors, also 10%.
In Canada, of the 308 members of the house of commons we have only 67 female members. Further more out of 82 Federal Judges, only 22 are women. And though there's actually MORE women then men in university, men still make up the bulk of the population in sciences, math and business and when you look at graduate degrees, more go to men then women.
While the Canadian government touts it's great strides in our country having more women in managerial positions than most this is still only 35% and even in industries (retail, fashion, childcare, education) where women greatly outnumber men, men consistently outnumber women in managerial/leadership roles.
Roughly half of Canadian women (51%) will experience some form of physical or sexual abuse AFTER 16 (so this does not include child abuse rates, if you factor them in the number increases substancially) and as you read this one or two Canadian women are being murdered by either a father, brother, spouse, partner or ex boyfriend.
As far as income, Canada was ranked 12th out of 17 peer countries for gender descrepencies (just below the US, up two spots from the UK).
These numbers are consistent amongst all demographics.
Are we equal? Yes. Are we treated as equal? No.
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl
I so can't wait till all of you have daughters.
Yes we should have black people in the house of commons. And hispanic people. And more indian people and asian people too. I'm pro equality all over the place.
As for who's fault it is that there's more men going further in education... it's our parent's fault. They're more likely to suport their sons through post secondary but worse, they taught their sons they could be doctors. And indoctrinated their daughters with pretty princess bull shit that taught them to be spoiled little dolls.
And yes. 51%. So if you have female friends... you know the way some of you talk I'm not sure you even know what a female is but if you do have female friends and family members take a look around.
Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
You know. I could live with making 90 cents on the dollar if half the women in my life hadn't had to put up with that shit.
BRN32 > you have just demonstrated the exact bull shit justification used to continue to propagate the the above mentioned shit. Congradulations. You're part of the problem. You deserve to have your bank account raped by what ever gold digging bitches can get there and to never ever get laid while they're at if if that's your outlook on the other gender.
Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
Jesus all the crazy girls come out on International Women Day. I spill my coffee all over keyboard reading that quote.
Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
This is the part that I actually agree with you on and think is totally fucked. I can't seem to throw a stone without hitting someone who'd been raped.
I don't agree with anything else you posted, but I think most guys would be surprised. It's disgusting.
Yes we should have black people in the house of commons. And hispanic people. And more indian people and asian people too. I'm pro equality all over the place.
As for who's fault it is that there's more men going further in education... it's our parent's fault. They're more likely to suport their sons through post secondary but worse, they taught their sons they could be doctors. And indoctrinated their daughters with pretty princess bull shit that taught them to be spoiled little dolls.
And yes. 51%. So if you have female friends... you know the way some of you talk I'm not sure you even know what a female is but if you do have female friends and family members take a look around.
Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
You know. I could live with making 90 cents on the dollar if half the women in my life hadn't had to put up with that shit.
BRN32 > you have just demonstrated the exact bull shit justification used to continue to propagate the the above mentioned shit. Congradulations. You're part of the problem. You deserve to have your bank account raped by what ever gold digging bitches can get there and to never ever get laid while they're at if if that's your outlook on the other gender.
You'll have to back that 51% figure up.
A random survey in Alcoholics Anonymous doesn't exactly count as painting an accurate picture.
Plus, sexual harassment is such a broad category. If I looked at you in a "pervy" way, that could be deemed sexual harassment. Saying "dat ass" to a girl could also constitute sexual harassment. Casually putting my arm on a girl could constitute sexual harassment.
Also, are you suggesting that there should be a 50-50 men to women ratio everywhere? Does that mean the fire department should consist of 50% females, and that nail manicuring salons should consist of 50% males?
Different jobs calls for different people.
And parents not letting their daughters go to post-secondary? WTF? This isn't 1940 anymore...
I gatta agree with liquid turbo, in terms of social equality, men and women are equal in a sense of education, voting, laws and even freedom of speech. The only problem I might see is pay, but then again with today’s society even a woman can become rich (just marry a rich guy divorce that shit and take half haha)
@TheNewGirl, Please don’t be bias because you are a girl, look at all views in this situation. I may be wrong but from reading your post I get the impression that you think that 51% of all incidents were from men. But what if they were from women? In addition with facts like these please post sources. From what I have quickly googled “Canada stats women abuse” I got this site http://www.cdnwomen.org/EN/section05...nce_facts.html
Quite frankly, unless proven otherwise, I would speculate you got your information from this site, so yes people she is right. If you look at stats of women and men who have REPORTED being abused sexually, you can see women are by far in higher numbers.
Also note these sources: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-224-...000000-eng.pdf http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85f0033...008019-eng.pdf
I’m not trying to start anything, but if you had just posted sources, people wouldn’t rage on you due to your credibility. In addition, please don’t say shit like this “Half of them have been or will be raped, molested, seriously sexually harassed, beaten or abused in some way. Half of them. Go take a look at them. Your sister, your mother, your girl friend, your daughter. Half of them.
You know. I could live with making 90 cents on the dollar if half the women in my life hadn't had to put up with that shit.”
You may know people and i’m sorry for the things that had happened, but to fucking say shit like this is disrespectful, I might not know any better because I am of a very young age, but I could also say “You know. I could live with making 90 cents on the dollar if half the men and women in my life hadn’t have to put up with the shit which included being beaten, physically and emotionally abused, (can’t say sexually abused because they have never had such an incident happen, Thankfully.)” My point, don’t say this kind of shit just to prove a point. If you wanted to prove a point, do it with facts, because in this type of world (the world of the internet) you barely know these people and the only thing they will believe are sources.
I guess at the end of the day if you look at stats then yeah, woman and men do not seem equal.
But, like a lot of things in life, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
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pierce brosnan>daniel craig
This is tough, because they're two different styles of bond.
I wouldn't necessarily say Pierce is better than Craig.
Craig just brings a new dynamic to the bond we knew.
I like them both.
I guess at the end of the day if you look at stats then yeah, woman and men do not seem equal.
But, like a lot of things in life, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
This is tough, because they're two different styles of bond.
I wouldn't necessarily say Pierce is better than Craig.
Craig just brings a new dynamic to the bond we knew.
I like them both.
Not a new dynamic, more like going back to the roots a la Sean Connery.
The metrosexual bond started with Roger Moore IMO and grew in each successor from Dalton to Brosnan.
So do you guys believe that equality exists between men and women?
Nope.
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Yes we should have black people in the house of commons. And hispanic people. And more indian people and asian people too. I'm pro equality all over the place.
As for who's fault it is that there's more men going further in education... it's our parent's fault. They're more likely to suport their sons through post secondary but worse, they taught their sons they could be doctors. And indoctrinated their daughters with pretty princess bull shit that taught them to be spoiled little dolls.
That is such a load, I don't even know where to start. How about we have the people who are best suited for the job to do the job? There's no reason to say there MUST be this minority in this position. How about true equality, no one gets special treatment.
And as for our parent's fault? Perhaps, but how about the fact that an adult can make up their own mind as to what they want to do with their life? I'm glad that you are able to generalize so well and not see past statistics. You want things to change, good for you. Go ahead and drive change. Don't preach on an internet forum hoping for the best.
Lastly, complete bullshit that equality exists the way it does now. Equal rights for all, but some more equal than others. The number of women who I have met, deem themselves entitled to equality, yet demand to be treated like a princess? No, it doesn't work that way. You don't get it both ways. You get treated like everyone else if you want to be like everyone else. If you want to be treated all special like, expect some things to be different.
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Originally posted by CRS I would make a comment in regards to your intelligence but I don't think that you would appreciate the full mockery of that comment.
In other words..
I would love to insult you but you wouldn't understand.
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who's this sourpuss?
