yeah creatine is great
mono hydrate is best in green tea

Yah was looking at monohydrate, more specifically the Allmax Creapure. Does it really matter if it's creapure or not? I feel like cheaping out :p

i noticed the different with shitty monohydrate and all max creapure. stick to allmax its solid as fuhk

perfect, thanks

anyone else notice sideeffects with zma? i use to take higher power zma no problem. but ever since i started using sci-fit zma, i've been getting a little acne, dry skin and for a day or 2 i had patchy redness near my upper cheekbone. stopped taking it for a few days and all of it went away.

^^^^^ hmm that is werid
i got some bb zma and its great, have not taken it for a while and back on the wagon

so zma is just a sleeping aid? or you use it as a source of magnesium?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMA_(supplement)

seems kinda pointless (yes i know it's wikipedia)

i use this 2, it is pretty cheap like most mono, 17.95 for 80 servings or 31.95 for 200 at reflex if i remember correctly.
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creapure is the way to go. i usually take allmax.


allmax is a solid supplement company all around, imo

It's a zinc and magnesium supplement, which is not pointless if you eat an average diet, since the average diet is deficient in these minerals. Magnesium is the most important mineral to make sure you're getting enough of.

The claims by ZMA are pure bullshit, but it's a solid mineral supplement. Magnesium also helps aid sleep (it's also a laxative in high enough doses) so that is kind of a bonus.

Read this post to understand why magnesium is so important:
The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D. » Magnesium and inflammation

:werd: i got their creatine, zma, and ba
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thanks for the link

is ZMA the best way to accomplish this or straight magnesium pills?

Note that you don't have to take ZMA.. any Magnesium and Zinc supplement will be fine.

125 day supply of NOW Mag Citrate: $11 (400mg magnesium, 2 tabs)
120 day supply of NOW Zinc Picolinate: $7 (50mg zinc, 1 tab)
TOTAL: $18

Alternative: 120 day supply of NOW Mag Malate: $16.50 (450mg magnesium, 3 tabs)

120 days of SciFit ZMA (2 180 cap bottles) (30mg zinc, 450mg magnesium, 3 caps)
TOTAL: $40

So ZMA is kind of overpriced when you can get the same thing from pure supplements. Some people just take it because it's easier to get it all from one bottle, I guess.

Also what I like about going the non-ZMA route is you don't get the B6 which would negatively interact with 5-HTP

Whatever mineral you get, make sure it is a chelate - ending in "ATE" instead of "IDE". So Magnesium Malate, Aspartate, Citrate, etc all good. Oxide = crap

I'm almost out of whey and find buying from bb.com too much of a hassle so i called popeyes cuz i swear they had 2 tubs of ON whey for $100 last time i went in.
the tubs are now $60 each. he says price of whey has been going up and likely to continue to go up.
then i was on live chat with a rep from bb.com and he confirmed that whey prices are going to increase very soon because it's getting hard to find a good source of whey.

stock up.

just get kaizen from costco :thumbs:

or just order dymatize it's cheapest compared to the rest

that's what i was thinking

have you guys tried ai sports 3z best sleep supplement ever

email Nathan@AISportsNutrition.com for samples with your address

^ done, excited to try it seems like ZMA with some herbal shit, gaba is money too

GABA is money but who knows how much is in there

$30 for a 30 day supply is absurd

stock up on 12 months of whey now and prices go up in a year or buy them as normal and prices go up in a year.....

im not going to get excited.

so u jus stocked up for a yr of whey?

where to get good prices of whey?

^^ costco , or bb.com for dymatize

which dymatize protein?
Dymatize ISO-100 at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for ISO-100
doesnt look so cheap

^That's cause its isolate : which is basically 100% protein

Try Dymatize Elite Gourmet Protein at Bodybuilding.com: Lowest Prices for Elite Gourmet Protein

edit : damn.. beat me to it