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03-31-2011, 12:47 PM
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closest to liberal farthest from conservatives but id still vote for conservatives
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03-31-2011, 12:57 PM
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#27 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by Manic!  Is that on top of or instead of the Child Tax Credit? | Instead of the what ever it is a month people with children under 5 get right now (regardless of if they need it or not). The Libs suggest instead giving the money directly to the childcare centers to lower the over all cost of child care and open up more spots for children (which currently is the real problem even more so than cost imo).
As for the $ to students, the details will of course be ironed out if it gets legislated, but $1000 isn't going to make more people go to school. You still have to meet the entry requirements to get in. I would hope it would only go to students in public institutions (UBC, Kwantlan yes, Private College of Teaching People Nothing Useful, No).
$1000 a year is $4-5000 (which turns into to like $5-8000 with interest depending how fast they can pay it off) less in student loans that the average BA/BSc student will have to carry. It may elevate the need for student loans completely for some people. This means they get out there, paying taxes and putting money back into the economy sooner when they're out of school and employed which is a good thing. And it means young people getting into the housing market earlier as well which is an even better thing and helps to preserve the rapidly shrinking middle class.
I don't think that's a bad thing at all.
I wish we could financially afford to run like other countries where Uni is completely free but the standards to get in are considerably higher but sadly that's not doable (for now).
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03-31-2011, 01:06 PM
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#28 | | I am grateful grapefruit
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I'm just interested to see where they plan on getting the money from. Announcing spending of 1+ Billion is nice because you can see where it benefits people - but that's either going to just put us further into debt, or they're going to cut it from other departments (read: Military)
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03-31-2011, 01:08 PM
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#29 | | Diagonally parked in a parallel universe
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Originally Posted by gars I'm just interested to see where they plan on getting the money from. Announcing spending of 1+ Billion is nice because you can see where it benefits people - but that's either going to just put us further into debt, or they're going to cut it from other departments (read: Military) | That is the most important question IMO for sure. And I would like to see ALL of the party leaders explain where they intent to get their $$ from.
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03-31-2011, 01:34 PM
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#30 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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weird that im closest to liberals but if i compare my responses the conservatives are closest on each question and im just ont he economic right and social conservative. at this point the liberals couldnt bribe me enough to vote for them.
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03-31-2011, 03:42 PM
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#31 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...
Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?
Just wondering.
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03-31-2011, 03:49 PM
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#32 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl Instead of the what ever it is a month people with children under 5 get right now (regardless of if they need it or not). The Libs suggest instead giving the money directly to the childcare centers to lower the over all cost of child care and open up more spots for children (which currently is the real problem even more so than cost imo).
| The conservatives make it sound like it will be extra spending when in reality it will just taking existing money and focusing it on day care.
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03-31-2011, 04:37 PM
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#33 | | What hasn't Killed me, has made me more tolerant of RS!
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Closest to Liberals and furthest from Conservative, which is fairly accurate. If it weren't for my distrust in Ingatieff, this election would be a no-brainer for me.
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03-31-2011, 04:42 PM
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#34 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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Originally Posted by TheNewGirl Closest to Liberal, Furthest from Conservative.... is anyone surprised? |
yes, i am.
why? because reading through some of your responses from the gender equity thread and the other political thread, you sound like you are a true orange NDP.
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03-31-2011, 05:18 PM
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#35 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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is a repost http://www.revscene.net/forums/gover...t641040p4.html
anyways, it was slow as hell when i took it the first day it came out.
I thought I'd line up somewhere between NDP and Liberal but I ended up Green
I won't be voting green.
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03-31-2011, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! The conservatives make it sound like it will be extra spending when in reality it will just taking existing money and focusing it on day care. | What existing money? The government is running a deficit - there's no money.
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03-31-2011, 05:35 PM
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#37 | | Need to Seek Professional Help
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Originally Posted by dutch To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...
Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?
Just wondering. | This is an interesting thread; the original concept is based on the political compass ( http://politicalcompass.org/ ), except that Canadian political parties have been pasted in.
I'm not one of those liberal leaners con-voters, but there is more to voting than just ideology. Platform matters.
For instance, someone in this thread has already stated that they'd vote Conservative except for the fact that they are (or are at least perceived as) socially conservative. In the past, that has been something that has affected my views of them as well.
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03-31-2011, 07:28 PM
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#38 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by taylor192 What existing money? The government is running a deficit - there's no money. | So were did Harper get the money for the child tax credit, the F-35's and the fake lake?
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03-31-2011, 07:37 PM
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#39 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Here's the problem with Canadian politics: The only party with decent economic platform are conservatives, and the only ones with a decent social platform are fucken communists 
We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups.
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03-31-2011, 07:41 PM
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#40 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp
We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups.
| Wholeheartedly agree.
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03-31-2011, 07:45 PM
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#41 | | resident Oil Guru
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03-31-2011, 07:47 PM
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#42 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by gars i think the chart is skewed. The Conservatives of Canada aren't that far right.
I'm closest to Liberals - but still voting Conservatives. | I had the same thing! I'm definitely not voting for Liberals either.
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03-31-2011, 08:09 PM
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#43 | | I don't get it
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Originally Posted by dutch To the people that came out closest to liberals but would still vote conservative...
Why? Why would you vote against your best interest/principles?
Just wondering. | Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences.
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03-31-2011, 08:18 PM
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#44 | | Hacked RS to become a mod
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Originally Posted by darkfroggy Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences. | If you click around in the quiz, it is actually very detailed. The quiz itself gives you an idea on where you stand, and from there you can read about all the platforms, leaders, etc. It is probably a more useful tool than listening to propaganda and phony debates.
But I agree it shouldn't be the ONLY method of choosing who to vote for.
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04-01-2011, 02:59 AM
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#45 | | resident Oil Guru
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Originally Posted by darkfroggy Because an online, one-size-fits-all, 5 minute quiz should dictate our voting preferences. | Actually, for 99% of the general population, it probably does. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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04-01-2011, 08:57 AM
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#46 | | My bookmarks are Reddit and REVscene, in that order
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp Here's the problem with Canadian politics: The only party with decent economic platform are conservatives, and the only ones with a decent social platform are fucken communists
We need someone in the upper right quadrant to vote for. Someone who is smart when it comes to business, but also not a bunch of religious fuckups. | Mine was about 1cm below yours. And I totally agree with you, I think the conservatives are the only ones that can seem to handle money decently.
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04-01-2011, 09:08 AM
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#47 | | Banned (ABWS)
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Originally Posted by Manic! So were did Harper get the money for the child tax credit, the F-35's and the fake lake? | The F35s were started by.... thus might surprise you... the Liberals. Ask them where the money was supposed to come from.
The fake lake and other spending I have a problem with too. That was a huge waste.
The child tax credit and other social spending has been part of ensuring the opposition passes the budget. So blame them for the deficit.
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04-01-2011, 09:51 AM
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#48 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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I am closest to the Liberals and furthest from the Green.
I have to agree that the Conservatives are not that far right and it's their strong views on abortion, marijuana and the like that pushes them that far.
As for voting, I am undecided at this point. It is between the Liberals and Conservatives. However, regardless of who I vote for, my riding will be won by the NDP (Hastings-Sunrise)....
I will be moving to a different riding in about two weeks, do you know if I can vote in my new riding by election time?
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04-01-2011, 10:05 AM
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#49 | | My bookmarks are Reddit and REVscene, in that order
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I think you just need something to prove that you've moved, like having bills or something sent there?
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04-01-2011, 10:30 AM
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#50 | | Banned (ABWS)
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This is why you do not want to vote Liberal/NDP, it'll give more power to Quebexico. http://www.theprovince.com/Quebec+de...805/story.html
I'd rather give a province a loan to get a project going than just hand out $8B to Quebexico.
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