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Old 04-14-2011, 12:54 AM   #226
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is there a website that compares all the parties promises?

I have no idea what's going on really. I don't know what they are promising or not etc.
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is there a website that compares all the parties promises?

I have no idea what's going on really. I don't know what they are promising or not etc.
here you go, ive helped you out a bit


EDIT: after actually reading the link posted above, i can only rant at how stupidly retarded some of these policies are.
"Establish "National Food Policy," which includes measures such as: new food labeling regulations; stronger regulation on transfats and salt; $40-million over four years for Healthy Start program" 40 million dollars wasted
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The CBC Did a fact check on their debate discussion at least. And has a running tally of the true/false on various public statements and promises.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana.../realitycheck/

So far a whole whopping... 4 pass, 26 fail and 17 50/50s
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here you go, ive helped you out a bit


EDIT: after actually reading the link posted above, i can only rant at how stupidly retarded some of these policies are.
"Establish "National Food Policy," which includes measures such as: new food labeling regulations; stronger regulation on transfats and salt; $40-million over four years for Healthy Start program" 40 million dollars wasted
Actually the food labeling policy is fantastic, and about fucking time. We all have a right to know what's in our food and as someone with a serious allergy, I can assure you, the current system doesn't work. The number of times I've had a reaction to something that wasn't on a label is astounding and if that one ingredient that I react to can be unwittingly contaminating so many items, think of all the other ones that can be.

I don't care so much about regulating salt and fats, that's for people to look at the label and choose if they want to ingest something but I demand that those labels be accurate so people CAN make informed choices about what they're eating and you should to.
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Good for the conservatives, who wants to let those greedy fuckers who are the generation of tomorrow have any power in how a bunch of old fucks run the coutnry.
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The CBC Did a fact check on their debate discussion at least. And has a running tally of the true/false on various public statements and promises.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cana.../realitycheck/

So far a whole whopping... 4 pass, 26 fail and 17 50/50s
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LOL and the point of watching that would be what? You might as well go watch porn instead before voting.

If somebody did a fact check for the stuff posted in this thread, I think you'd get similar numbers.
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Good for the conservatives, who wants to let those greedy fuckers who are the generation of tomorrow have any power in how a bunch of old fucks run the coutnry.
If the students did it legit, then Elections Canada will count the votes. If not, then they'll have to do it again. We don't run ghetto ballot boxes in Canada. What's the point of the website? An online petition's not gonna change the integrity of the ballots.
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Good for the conservatives, who wants to let those greedy fuckers who are the generation of tomorrow have any power in how a bunch of old fucks run the coutnry.
You're a fucking idiot, I have not once said anything remotely like that. I know name calling is frowned upon, yet if you're going to make asinine statements I reserve the right to call you an idiot.

I would have a problem with this style of voting regardless of party affiliation. A vote is a personal thing, thus why you vote in a single booth and no campaigning is allowed even close to the site. Watch the UVic Vote Mob video, there's students depending respect yet holding up signs with basically campaign party policies on them. Since you don't like how the Conservatives disrespect the political process I am very surprised you're supporting a movement which essentially does the same.

Here are the rules for Special Ballots: http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx...ec90540&lang=e

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Once an elector's application to vote by special ballot is approved, that is the only way he or she can vote. The elector cannot vote at the ordinary or advance polls.
Elections Canada will comment today on what happened. I'm willing to bet those 700 students don't meet the criteria for a Special Vote and were not approved - yet I am willing to wait for an official announcement before condemning what happened.

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The Conservatives had a right to challenge the votes as even Elections Canada admits the proper process was not followed.

My concern is this sets a bad standard. Anyone could organize a huge partisan following, aka mob, then head to the voting station. We all know how mob mentality works, people often get involved who otherwise would not - thus this would be akin to dragging voters to the ballot boxes which is against our election process.

Could you imagine me going into a seniors home, getting the old folks all riled up, then heading down to the nearest ballot box? Do you think anyone would accuse me of vote tampering?

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Does Jack Layton and the NDP have any realistic chance of winning? If they did win, what would it mean for Canada?
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Not for winning, the do have a realistic chance of becoming the opposition though which really I think is the ring Layton's after at the moment.
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I kinda like Jack Layton after the debate. He had some really good points and hurt Ignatief big time when he mentioned his shitty attendance record. Iggy's just a bit too cocky.
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I kinda like Jack Layton after the debate. He had some really good points and hurt Ignatief big time when he mentioned his shitty attendance record. Iggy's just a bit too cocky.
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iggy didn't attend votes because he agreed to prop up the gov't. that is actually a GOOD thing because we've had a semi-stable minority gov't for the past couple years.

it's not because he was lazy, as was implied. i don't like his policies at all, but i'm not going to slam him for something he isn't.
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Serious question to those who are voting for the NDP.

Where do you see Canada in 2-4 years? Economically, socially, on the world stage, etc.
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Serious question to those who are voting for the NDP.

Where do you see Canada in 2-4 years? Economically, socially, on the world stage, etc.
Shouldn't be that a question for EVERYONE regardless of who they're voting for?
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Where do you see Canada in 2-4 years? Economically, socially, on the world stage, etc.
I will support any party that moves the state of israel to nunavet or to the oblast lands and stop this whole middle east bullshit with israel.
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Shouldn't be that a question for EVERYONE regardless of who they're voting for?
True, if people who are going to vote for the conservatives and liberals want to chime in as well that would be great. My question comes from personal curiosity towards the NDP, especially seeing how Jack Layton is experiencing a surge in popularity following the debate.
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I will support any party that moves the state of israel to nunavet or to the oblast lands and stop this whole middle east bullshit with israel.
But then who will the uneducated rednecks hate on?

Lets be real here Majin. Looking at your posts on this site, you're one confused person. Hating others is probably the only thing keeping you away from hating yourself. Go finish school and get a real job with real people (not being surrounded by drunk people in a night club). Then, when you've developed a mature thought process, come back and give your opinion.
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I will support any party that moves the state of israel to nunavet or to the oblast lands and stop this whole middle east bullshit with israel.
Wow, so much hate towards a country that has absolutely zero direct impact on your life. Pathetic.
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But then who will the uneducated rednecks hate on?

Lets be real here Majin. Looking at your posts on this site, you're one confused person. Hating others is probably the only thing keeping you away from hating yourself. Go finish school and get a real job with real people (not being surrounded by drunk people in a night club). Then, when you've developed a mature thought process, come back and give your opinion.
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True, if people who are going to vote for the conservatives and liberals want to chime in as well that would be great. My question comes from personal curiosity towards the NDP, especially seeing how Jack Layton is experiencing a surge in popularity following the debate.
I'm not an NDP supporter but I will tell you that when you look at the hard numbers, the NDP being irresponsible with $ idea is largely right wing rhetoric that's well... done it's job very well.

For example here in BC, while the BCNDP ran our province, they dealt with the collapse of the Asian markets but still increased our GDP by 3.3% and change. The Liberals? 2.8%. The NDP increased the deficit provincially by 19 billion. The Liberals, a government who made a law saying they would never run a deficit budget, rang the tab up by 28 billion. Under the NDP the unemployment rate was in the neighborhood of 6%, under the liberals it's still hovering around 8%.

Most of you would feel that it is "common knowledge" that the NDP (federal or provincial) is fiscally less responsible and a worse choice for our province, but I don't know... when I look at the #s that doesn't seem to be the case.

The same holds true on a federal front. I think the Conservatives have done a very good job as branding themselves as the "Fiscally responsible choice" but when you look at the raw data, that's doesn't materialize, and in fact, I would (and have) argue(d) that the financial stability of our country is the legacy of stable, long term Liberal leadership.

As far as Layton himself, you know what? He's growing on me a great deal. He is a charismatic and engaging leader (which is one up on everyone else) who isn't afraid to speak up about issues that need to be addressed. He's also the only national party leader who's own party is internally stable, which goes a long way to showing his leadership skills. And I don't think he would bankrupt the country any more or less than any of the other parties will.

I DO have concerns about his lack of skills dealing with International politics, not so much with Asia, as he has strong ties and experience there, but with the US and the Middle East. I feel that both Harper and Ignatiff have a better understanding of these issues, and I would argue Ignatiff's single largest benefit is he has a full appreciation of our position internationally (which is sinking, rapidly), and an awareness of the mistakes being made by our partners down south (rather then blindly following them as Harper seems to want to do).

To me, I'm more concerned about what's going on on the home front, but I do think some international savy is important, because building new ties and trade partnerships that don't center on the US is vital to our success as a country in this next decade.

Personally? I think Layton would be one fantastic opposition leader, better at being one then a PM (and I still think that's what he's shooting for in this election). Unfortunately I think people would hate him, because he would be loud and vocal, but most people don't really seem to understand that that is the job an opposition leader is elected to do.

If he gains some seats in this election, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that by the next one we could all be so sick of the Liberals and Tories, tell them both to fuck off and elect an NDP government... they'd just have to find a way to gain some traction in Quebec.

As for Liberal party leadership, in all honesty, everyone is a place holder until Justin Trudaeu takes the reigns of the party (which he's stated he's not ready to do as of yet). And besides Layton, really he's one of the few people in Canadian politics that I think could (and does) actively engage the youth vote. I think things will change for the Liberal party in about 6-8 years and I doubt we'll see a Liberal lead government (barring wacky coalitions) until then.
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