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jeedee 07-16-2011 03:39 PM

Just had an interesting read from this:

Trade Deadline targets (mod edit) - HFBoards

I really like the thought of having Doan or Morrow play with Kes.

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See I'd much rather it the other way, Doan gives Ryan Kesler an actual Top 6 RW to play with, Samuelsson is decent and can score when on, but Doan is a consistent 60 point threat.
Doan gives us real flexibility to make a bigger move next summer if we still haven't gotten the big trophy.

Doan Samuelsson Raymond are all out of contract years by next summer, which is like 10 million. That could easily be used on a UFA.

Whereas Morrow restricts these possibilities with his 4.1 hit, along with his age. I know Doan is older, but he's likely to retire or sign on a cheaper contract.

Booth is the obvious choice, he is young, solid, plays the way we want, but is another Left handed LW. When we have 5 Burrows Daniel Raymond Higgins Sturm who play LW. I'd rather look for a Top 6 RW for Kesler.
Going off personal experience, right handed guys are much better playing with other right handed guys.

JKam 07-16-2011 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jayare604 (Post 7513547)
I question it because that's like saying Bertuzzi is like a slower skating version of Bure because they can both score lots of goals, yet the play a completely different style of game.

Sorry I didn't make it clear. They were talking about his vision of the ice and playing ability NOT the style of play. Your analogies suck too. What do you mean our Gretzky? Gretzky is Canada's hero not a specific city.

jayare604 07-16-2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 7513563)
A - this isn't CDC
B - you spelled Linden wrong
C - Gretzky is a terrible comparison
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Yeah, but there's still the same idiots here who think Jody Vance is a 20/10.

b0unce. [?] 07-16-2011 04:52 PM

I still believe Hodgsen will be playing in the future. He just needs to get his shit together. We all know the canucks aren't the type of organization to throw fresh draft picks and prospects into the line up right away. Our development system seems very slow/hit or miss. I envy detroit/nashville (those types of teams) management.
As much as I love Linden, you can't compare anyone to Gretzky. Even Crosby isn't on the same pace to match Gretzky. Had Lindros not been injured and have his career more or less end after getting destroyed by Stevens... Back then, people considered him the next Gretzky.

spoon.ek9 07-16-2011 04:59 PM

the way i see it is, if hodgson was given 1st/2nd line duty last season, that would have meant our team was in a bad situation. guys like crosby and stamkos were given chances right away because their teams would have tanked either way. they had a lot less to risk by giving them a shot.

hodgson isn't playing consistently with the canucks yet because management feels he isn't quite there yet. i just hope hodgson sticks with it and does everything in his power to crack the line up. i also hope that AV doesn't ruin this (he's already had some harsh words for the guy).

RiceIntegraRS 07-16-2011 07:42 PM

Im hoping Hodgson can work on his skaking and adapt to playing wing. Maybe wat Sundin did to Kesler, Kesler can do for Hodgson. But that would mean he would have to beat out Higgins and Sturm for that spot next to Kesler
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jeedee 07-16-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 7513758)
Im hoping Hodgson can work on his skaking and adapt to playing wing. Maybe wat Sundin did to Kesler, Kesler can do for Hodgson.
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So you're saying move Kesler to the wing and Hodgson to center?

RiceIntegraRS 07-16-2011 07:48 PM

Move hodgson to wing. Kesler is gonna gather up all the attention, that would leave Hodgson alil more time n space to operate
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Vansterdam 07-16-2011 07:50 PM

hodgson is one big troll :troll:

jeedee 07-16-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 7513765)
Move hodgson to wing. Kesler is gonna gather up all the attention, that would leave Hodgson alil more time n space to operate
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K good. Cause I'm sick of reading posts saying move Hodgson to center and Kes to wing when Hodgson isn't strong at faceoffs :seriously:

But here's the thing. We know Kes can score 40+ goals. Shouldn't we try to pursue a forward that can feed him the puck, rather than him feeding it to someone like Hodgson?

hypediss 07-16-2011 08:11 PM

u guys remember how long it took the swedish sisters and kes break out to the players they r right now right?

just because hodgson is highly touted, it doesnt change the fact that our development mantra is to take a long term grooming process for our prospects

:seriously:

jayare604 07-16-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 7513776)
K good. Cause I'm sick of reading posts saying move Hodgson to center and Kes to wing when Hodgson isn't strong at faceoffs :seriously:

But here's the thing. We know Kes can score 40+ goals. Shouldn't we try to pursue a forward that can feed him the puck, rather than him feeding it to someone like Hodgson?

a bunch of first assists wouldn't be bad :troll:

CRS 07-16-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jeedee (Post 7513776)
K good. Cause I'm sick of reading posts saying move Hodgson to center and Kes to wing when Hodgson isn't strong at faceoffs :seriously:

But here's the thing. We know Kes can score 40+ goals. Shouldn't we try to pursue a forward that can feed him the puck, rather than him feeding it to someone like Hodgson?

That's the thing. Hodgson is a playmaker. He is the set up man. Can he score? Yes, but from watching him play, he wants to make the play more than he wants to score himself.

This is why people want coho as the center because he wants to play make instead of wanting to shoot.

Ronin 07-16-2011 08:32 PM

Just because someone is a playmaker doesn't mean they can't play wing.

trancehead 07-17-2011 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 7513809)
Just because someone is a playmaker doesn't mean they can't play wing.

agreed

Tanguay and MSL are noted playmaking wingers i believe

411ken 07-17-2011 11:19 AM

^ it's true but I think MOST playmakers I would think are Centers.. i.e. Crosby/Datsyuk/Thornton/Spezza/Savard/

But obviously, you need to be high skiled to be the playmaker in center.

Hodgson definitely needs to be playing wing to start off his career with the team.

Hondaracer 07-17-2011 01:14 PM

Hodgson is too slow to be a setup guy for Kes atm

jayare604 07-17-2011 01:28 PM

didn't Kesler start out on the wing?

trancehead 07-17-2011 01:38 PM

he centered burrows and hansen (Bernier too when hansen got injured) during the time when Pyatt still played with the Sedins

then came Sundin, and he played wing along with Demitra to Sundin

anyone care to fill in where he fit in before burrows-hansen line?

jayare604 07-17-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 7514410)
he centered burrows and hansen (Bernier too when hansen got injured) during the time when Pyatt still played with the Sedins

then came Sundin, and he played wing along with Demitra to Sundin

anyone care to fill in where he fit in before burrows-hansen line?

I'm almost 100% he started off as wing in his first year (03/04)

b0unce. [?] 07-17-2011 02:02 PM

:jizz::jizz::jizz::jizz::jizz::jizz:


Greenstoner 07-17-2011 11:19 PM

^ woah, sick goal

G 07-17-2011 11:32 PM

I raise you another sick goal. Wait for the replay!


jeedee 07-17-2011 11:35 PM

pft nothing ever beats this:


Check. Mate.

b0unce. [?] 07-17-2011 11:36 PM



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