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Old 06-25-2011, 05:45 PM   #1076
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Like geez, Lucic ONLY played right here in their own back yard where you see him play so damn often. How they overlooked him is beyond me.
Lucic was predicted to go in either the 3rd or 4th round during his draft year. Boston took a huge gamble and took him in the 2nd. He didn't have a break out year until AFTER he was drafted and his stock shot up.

Nobody in the right mind would take a player in the 1st round that only tallied 19pts in 62 games.
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Lucic was predicted to go in either the 3rd or 4th round during his draft year. Boston took a huge gamble and took him in the 2nd. He didn't have a break out year until AFTER he was drafted and his stock shot up.

Nobody in the right mind would take a player in the 1st round that only tallied 19pts in 62 games.
Didn't we have an earlier pick in the 2nd round than Boston?
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Nope. We had the 14th overall pick and drafted Grabner. Our next pick was the 82nd overall pick and we drafted Rahimi.

Lucic was picked at 50th overall, so unless we made a trade for a 2nd rounder, there was no way of getting him.
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that was one of our second rounders nonis traded away for rentals i believe
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that was one of our second rounders nonis traded away for rentals i believe
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Ok. So he traded the 2nd rounder [46th overall pick] for Noronen a shit goaltender that played like 4 games for us. If we hadn't traded for him...we had a chance at Lucic.

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OMG! In hindsight it's easy to say who we could have drafted based on how successful they turned out to be. Every team has scouting staff that does their homework. Detroit is famous for their scouting staff, and everyone knows this. Datsyuk was drafted something like 173 or something ridiculous. I think Zetterberg is like 200+
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^Ya but this is different in that Lucic played right here in Vancouver.
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detroit is so good at finding those diamonds in the rough. i wonder which of our current prospects will truly pan out.
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Reminds me of a young Kesler. Similar stride and wrist shot... kinda weird.
Looks like I'm not the only one that was thinking this. A bunch of posts on youtube, people call him the next Kes.

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OMG! In hindsight it's easy to say who we could have drafted based on how successful they turned out to be. Every team has scouting staff that does their homework. Detroit is famous for their scouting staff, and everyone knows this. Datsyuk was drafted something like 173 or something ridiculous. I think Zetterberg is like 200+
Bure was drafted 113th overall.
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^Ya but this is different in that Lucic played right here in Vancouver.
Yes he played in Vancouver but you're missing the point that he was ranked much lower than where he actually went. I'm sure the Canucks would've considered him had he been available in the third or fourth round. If you just looked at nothing but his stats in the 05/06 season you would've assumed he was nothing more than a goon.

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This was due to some legal complications and not because he was a diamond in the rough.

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Bure was selected 113th overall in the 6th round of the 1989 NHL Entry Draft by the Vancouver Canucks, following his rookie season with CSKA Moscow. The pick was controversial, as the Canucks had chosen him seemingly a year ahead of his eligible draft season. At the age of 18, he was available to be chosen in the first three rounds of the draft, but in order to be selected any later than that, he would had to have played in at least two seasons (with a minimum of 11 games per season) for his elite-level European club, the Central Red Army.[18] However, the Canucks' head scout at the time, Mike Penny, discovered that Bure had played in additional exhibition and international games to make him an eligible late-round draft choice a year early.[3][4]

Several other teams either had similar knowledge or had pursued Bure, but there was confusion as to the legitimacy of the extra games. The Detroit Red Wings had inquired to league vice president Gil Stein as to Bure's supposed availability prior to their fifth-round pick, but were told that he was not eligible.[18] Winnipeg Jets general manager Mike Smith claimed he travelled to Moscow prior to the draft and made a offer to the Soviet Ice Hockey Federation. The deal involved a transfer fee to be paid to the Soviets over three years, after which time, Bure would join the Jets as a 21-year-old. Smith did not have any plans to draft Bure in 1989, however, as he believed Bure was ineligible.[19]
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Everyone needs to chill out about us not drafting Lucic. There is no way you'll be able to 100% predict how a player will turn out in the NHL. GMs will draft the best player available that addresses the teams needs when they make their announcement. Unless it's Milbury
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edler was more of a diamond in the rough. edler is showing signs he's going to be a top defenceman and a future norris winner for sure. bieksa is not an all star, i'm not hating on him, i just dont consider him a diamond in the rough. i doubt he'll win the norris. he's developed well over the years, but he's not on the same level as zetterberg or datsyuk.

but my point in the earlier post was just to show how easy it was to say afterwards which player we SHOULD have drafted or which trades would have been better etc.

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yeah teams development system varies a lot too. i doubt grabner's career would be where it is if he bounced between the ahl and the 4th line for us. his career is taking off now that he has a chance to get some top minutes and get better. teams like detroit aren't afraid of throwing in young guys and giving them minutes to get better. whereas canucks so far have been hesitant to play hodgsen and he's been seeing shit ice time and shitty line mates to boot.
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I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.
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I remember there was an article about Edler and only us, Detroit, and one other team scouted Edler and really wanted him.
i remember nonis or our scouts found some kid whos now playing for like dallas or something, i can't remember. he debuted in the nhl with a hat trick too! some big swedish kid. anyways, he turned out to be a bust
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like someone just said, grabner would have never had the chance to "blossom" like he has with NYI had he stayed with our team.
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i remember nonis or our scouts found some kid whos now playing for like dallas or something, i can't remember. he debuted in the nhl with a hat trick too! some big swedish kid. anyways, he turned out to be a bust
I think I know who you are talking about. Bustromm
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yeah, i remember that hat trick debut too. he never did anything significant after that lol.
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I think I know who you are talking about. Bustromm
Yeah Brunstrom LOL I remember Darren Dreger talking him up like fucking crazy, talking about how the Canucks were ready to trade the Sedins away for his rights... That guy is such a cunt

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