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Lets see how long they can afford to stay out there with the winter coming. I love tits as much as the next guy... but these chicks are dumb! They are giving them a reason to arrest them... and do god knows what to them away from cameras.
In Vancouver, organizers say they plan to occupy an area outside the Vancouver Art Gallery. Those attending have been asked to bring tents with them and the group’s Facebook page says protesters will stay “as long as it takes.”
The Occupy Together website suggests similar events are being planned in Mexico, Australia, Tokyo, about a dozen European countries and more than 40 U.S. states.
Hmmm, dont think it will resort to anything big in Vancouver due to the rain, but can see a decent turnout in Toronto.
This is how those Arab Springs start, it all starts small, and gets bigger. But I can see this being a huge thing in Spain (40% unemployment among youths) and other places that already have riots going on.
What exactly is their goal? Do they have a solution for the crisis or are they just pissed off about upper middle class folks? This is what I hate about people who bitch about the system, they don't have a decent solution to make everyone happy and equal. There will always be flaws in our systems and the way the government runs. But we have yet as a civilization gotten to the point of perfection. And to be honest, we are getting a bit too uptight and needy about what we need in our life. 100 years ago people worked 14 hour days and got minimal pay and were treated like shit. Now you can buy a house in Saskatchewan off the money you can make working a year in an oil patch.
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^wow you really are clueless. I haven't had the time to read about this protest, but im sure the issue is more than just "high executive" pay issues. It's probably about wall street greed. If you've opened a paper in the last year, you would know about what caused the crisis (sub-prime mortgages?) and the number of scandals that keep occurring such as securities fraud.
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other issues are executives get huge bonuses when their banks/companies go bankrupt, or for laying off people. furthermore they get bailed out by taxpayers dollars when they mess up. Yet the average person seems to be getting poorer and poorer.
Not to mention that these companies have lobbyists that make laws that favor them and most companies have record profits, yet only the rich seem to be benefiting from these record profits.
unemployment in the US is high. Spain has 20% unemployment. US has over 9%. Most of the decent paying jobs are gone and only the low crappy ones remain, with zero benefits.
It's only about time that these riots start. It's not that bad in Canada since we have better policies than most of our western counterparts.
What exactly is their goal? Do they have a solution for the crisis or are they just pissed off about upper middle class folks? This is what I hate about people who bitch about the system, they don't have a decent solution to make everyone happy and equal. There will always be flaws in our systems and the way the government runs. But we have yet as a civilization gotten to the point of perfection. And to be honest, we are getting a bit too uptight and needy about what we need in our life. 100 years ago people worked 14 hour days and got minimal pay and were treated like shit. Now you can buy a house in Saskatchewan off the money you can make working a year in an oil patch.
I agree that as a society we tend to be too materialistic, and studies have shown that once you make $60,000, making more money doesnt make you that much happy.
But there are too many people that are born into poor neighbourhoods, poverty, and unemployment, and the system doesnt protect the interest of these people. They appear powerless. They have no means of escape. The system isn't helping these people out. But the rich and greedy have all the means to help themselves and are abusing their powers and responsibility.
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^^ try watching the documentary inside job.
other issues are executives get huge bonuses when their banks/companies go bankrupt, or for laying off people. furthermore they get bailed out by taxpayers dollars when they mess up. Yet the average person seems to be getting poorer and poorer.
Not to mention that these companies have lobbyists that make laws that favor them and most companies have record profits, yet only the rich seem to be benefiting from these record profits.
unemployment in the US is high. Spain has 20% unemployment. US has over 9%. Most of the decent paying jobs are gone and only the low crappy ones remain, with zero benefits.
It's only about time that these riots start. It's not that bad in Canada since we have better policies than most of our western counterparts.
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I'm actually well aware of most of these issues as one of my double majors is in sociology.
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I agree that as a society we tend to be too materialistic, and studies have shown that once you make $60,000, making more money doesnt make you that much happy.
But there are too many people that are born into poor neighbourhoods, poverty, and unemployment, and the system doesnt protect the interest of these people. They appear powerless. They have no means of escape. The system isn't helping these people out. But the rich and greedy have all the means to help themselves and are abusing their powers and responsibility.
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The wall street protests are the North American arab spring, regardless of how simple a group occupying a street may seem in large numbers and with enough time it becomes a powerful message. Politicians will not help, they will not regulate themselves and a continual underlying resentment will go ignored. These protests are our opportunity to make a difference and force some measure of change.
What exactly is their goal? Do they have a solution for the crisis or are they just pissed off about upper middle class folks? This is what I hate about people who bitch about the system, they don't have a decent solution to make everyone happy and equal. There will always be flaws in our systems and the way the government runs. But we have yet as a civilization gotten to the point of perfection. And to be honest, we are getting a bit too uptight and needy about what we need in our life. 100 years ago people worked 14 hour days and got minimal pay and were treated like shit. Now you can buy a house in Saskatchewan off the money you can make working a year in an oil patch.
Have you thought about why so many have showed up to protest?! Maybe because there's a problem and something needs to be fixed!
They might not have a PHD in running a country but all you need is a high school education to see it's not being run very well!
This has been my favourite video for the past few days, it tells the truth!
It makes me cry to hear michael moore scream end capitolism and have the crowd cheer in the back ground. These idiots are cheering for what? Plus those idiots holding the signs "a job is a right" OMFG. They are asking for communist china, where you get assigned a job.
Dont be fooled by warren buffets tax the rich scheme. If you took away all the top 1% wealth in america, it would amount to a paltry 2 trillion which would run the country for the duration of a long fart. The real guys making the money are off shore. Buffet wants more taxes so that they can pay for more bailouts.... which in turn goes to the banks he owns huge shares! Hellooo!
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I'd like to hear how you can get the money out of government.
The gov is the one making multi-billion dollar policies.
They are the ones that handle multi-billion dollar departments (transportation, defense, labor, education, energy, justice, agriculture, homeland security). There is so much money there.
You can't really get rid of lobbyists that simply, they have a place to educate or at least tell their side of the story. The problem is that they have the ability to wine and dine and give gifts and incentives, maybe they don't come right away, but sometimes, the ex-congressmen are given executive positions after. Stuff like that is much too grey to be regulated.
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