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Old 01-27-2012, 12:52 AM   #26
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What the hell do we pay these policemen for? He couldn't chase him down and attempt arrest?
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I hope he sues the shit out of VPD. Dogs shouldn't be used in situations like this.
agreed.

so do they have to put the dog down now because it tasted human flesh?
heard that from somewhere about strays and regular dogs. wonder if that's the case for police dogs...
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What the hell do we pay these policemen for? He couldn't chase him down and attempt arrest?
Kind of hard to catch a guy on a skateboard.

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I hope he sues the shit out of VPD. Dogs shouldn't be used in situations like this.
Skateboards shouldn't be used to break windows.
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I'll wait till I hear both sides of the story before I make any judgement


I find it odd that the crown dropped the case after they saw the picture of his leg. The dog opening the wound has nothing to do with him smashing a window with his skateboard

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Skateboards shouldn't be used to break windows.
People shouldn't throw their cigarette butts on the ground, doesn't mean we should taser them for it. Punishment needs to fit the crime.
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Kind of hard to catch a guy on a skateboard.



Skateboards shouldn't be used to break windows.
I hope you realize that we don't live in a society where resorting to violence with potentially fatal consequences is okay for a minor crime.
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I find it odd that the crown dropped the case after they saw the picture of his leg. The dog opening the wound has nothing to do with him smashing a window with his skateboard
its just a mischief charge those usually don't even get laid if you look apologetic to the arresting officer

crown usually prefers keeping those cases out of the system anyway as they just tie things up, if you have a good defense lawyer he could get them dropped just by chatting up his colleague @ crown
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I hope you realize that we don't live in a society where resorting to violence with potentially fatal consequences is okay for a minor crime.
Unfortunately, as a result, no one thinks twice about commiting a "minor crime" because there are no consequences; a laughable consequence at best.
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he's lucky. Imagine if the dog bit him a little higher up
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this "leniency" allows people to be people (freedom) instead of feeling like lab mice in a controlled experiment (a necessity really)

it may be unfortunate that mischief occurs as a result but it is also an example of freedom in its rawest? form
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arent dogs suppose to be on a leash, as well as police dogs??
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"Backed by Pivot Legal Society, Evans is now suing"

That explains a lot.

So, using a weapon, he smashes a store window worth $$$$???, jumps on his skateboard and flees the scene. He says his headphones block out the Police yells and the dog barks. Police use the dog to apprehend him and he struggles while bitten, worsening the injury to his leg? He is carrying a weapon and resisting arrest. "The dog latched on a few times to his leg. Mr. Evans says I would have thought he would have stopped struggling after the first time he was bitten. Wouldn't you?



Gotta remember this release is from PIVOT who want charges dropped and taxpayer money. You might remember a previous client of theirs...the guy who had the "incriminating pictures" of VPD shooting an "unarmed man". He was a self-described "pot activist" who said he witnessed the shooting and VPD erased the pictures from his cell phone. PIVOT screamed Police corruption and 2 of their experts were unable to find the pictures on the camera...for good reason. Independant video footage showed the guy was not there at the time and never took any pictures. PIVOT wanted big bucks then too. Never apologized for the slander and libel to VPD. Their credibility ranks just below that of the president of Iran.

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fuck it, i think its fully justified.

1 - he broke a window
2 - he skated away
3 - with a cop chasing him and him not stoping, hows the cop to know hes not stopping for a reason? perhaps he has a weapon on him
4 - upon chasing him and being unable to stop him, he let the dog on him to stop him

now the baby whines cause he needed staples for doing a crime...heres a thought...dont break fucking windows, think before you do stupid things.
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dog shoulda bit him for 200 staples. Breaks a window cause he missed a bus wtf?
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I remember the last time I broke a window and had the cops sick a dog on me.......oh wait that's right I'm not a complete dumbass. The wounds are bad without a doubt but this whole little problem could have been averted if the guy wasn't a fucking moron. You reap what you sow and sometimes you reap a lot more then you bargained for.
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They could have used this dog during the riots.
For 2012 playoffs, they should have his pictures plastered all over the city.
Break a window to loot, lose a leg.
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I really don't feel any sympathy for this guy, perhaps because it's PIVOT who's being his sounding board. PIVOT reminds me of those crazy tin foil hat folks mixed in with a dash of ambulance chasing lawyers, it seems anytime anything comes out of their mouths, it is so ridiculously one sided. Seems they never do any investigations into facts before spouting off to the media the majority of the time.
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"Backed by Pivot Legal Society, Evans is now suing"

That explains a lot.

So, using a weapon, he smashes a store window worth $$$$???, jumps on his skateboard and flees the scene. He says his headphones block out the Police yells and the dog barks. Police use the dog to apprehend him and he struggles while bitten, worsening the injury to his leg? He is carrying a weapon and resisting arrest. "The dog latched on a few times to his leg. Mr. Evans says I would have thought he would have stopped struggling after the first time he was bitten. Wouldn't you?



Gotta remember this release is from PIVOT who want charges dropped and taxpayer money. You might remember a previous client of theirs...the guy who had the "incriminating pictures" of VPD shooting an "unarmed man". He was a self-described "pot activist" who said he witnessed the shooting and VPD erased the pictures from his cell phone. PIVOT screamed Police corruption and 2 of their experts were unable to find the pictures on the camera...for good reason. Independant video footage showed the guy was not there at the time and never took any pictures. PIVOT wanted big bucks then too. Never apologized for the slander and libel to VPD. Their credibility ranks just below that of the president of Iran.
I don't doubt that they have an agenda, and by the very nature that very few times are they going to have regular joes just caught up in a bad scene. Their "clients" are going to be guys like this that were doing something wrong and it spiraled out from that. Therefore, their credibility is never going to be 100%.

However, its not like the RCMP and VPD have a 100% success rate when it comes to situations like these. A human officer in a human force making fast decisions can easily make the wrong one. It just so happens with guns, tazers and LRADs at your disposal, when you make a mistake, people hurt for it.

I for one will take a few hits to the credibility to these organizations to make sure the hits to the credibility to the police organizations are known, and dealt with. That isn't a "fuck teh policez" statement, that's a statement understanding that a successful police force survives on oversight. You're watching "us" and we're watching you, and round and round we go.

For sure, when they get shot down, I think they should totally have to grab their ankles for the media. Get up there in a press release and announce "we backed the wrong horse" but that NEVER happens with ANYTHING.
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"Backed by Pivot Legal Society, Evans is now suing"

That explains a lot.

So, using a weapon, he smashes a store window worth $$$$???, jumps on his skateboard and flees the scene. He says his headphones block out the Police yells and the dog barks. Police use the dog to apprehend him and he struggles while bitten, worsening the injury to his leg? He is carrying a weapon and resisting arrest. "The dog latched on a few times to his leg. Mr. Evans says I would have thought he would have stopped struggling after the first time he was bitten. Wouldn't you?
yeah your leg is being torn apart... staying completely still is really comprehensible...



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no... his charges were already dropped by crown before PIVOT got involved... PIVOT is campaigning against the liberal use of K9 units and this guy is simply the most current example for their cause of restricting K9 use... so they're "supporting" him by taking his case to the police watchdog

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I really don't feel any sympathy for this guy, perhaps because it's PIVOT who's being his sounding board. PIVOT reminds me of those crazy tin foil hat folks mixed in with a dash of ambulance chasing lawyers, it seems anytime anything comes out of their mouths, it is so ridiculously one sided. Seems they never do any investigations into facts before spouting off to the media the majority of the time.
PIVOT is a voice for those who've been stepped on in society, the group that are usually shunned and not listened to... Legal Aid has been decimated over the years and PIVOT is doing its part in helping those with no voice regardless where they're from and those without voices are usually the ones that are seen as the "undesirables" of society, would you support PIVOT if they, like the rest, ignored these elements of the community? They investigate as much as they can but you have to remember they're a non-profit volunteer group there's only so much they can do with the resources they have @ hand... want them to do a better job? donate your time or funds


PIVOT is essentially that guy in the crowd of observers that comes out and goes "HEY that's not right!" you know the guy that we here on RS usually support for having the "balls" to stand up and do whats right for the little guy, the bullied kid, the senior being pushed around; even if the guy may not have the full story that's besides the point because @ that very instance he sees something uncalled for and tries to put a stop to it

the only reason people have a problem with PIVOT is because of Who they're usually standing up for and protecting, but that shouldn't be of concern and if it is its more than likely an issue you should reflect on regarding yourself; the concentration should simply be upon the act that PIVOT is trying to put a stop to (in this case excessive/liberal K9 use which leads to serious injury)

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It is not the dog, its how the cop control the dog. The damage wont be that bad if the cop can recall the dog as soon as the skater down.
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