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Old 07-04-2012, 09:11 PM   #1551
 
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people are big on jensen because hes a big body with offensive skill. he has decent speed and a good wrist shot. put up basically a ppg average in juniors/u20 tourny on teams that were not that good. upon being called up to the ahl he produced 6 goals in 8 games.
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Old 07-04-2012, 09:27 PM   #1552
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IMO you don't have to be a PPG player in order to be a good one. Parise would be the best example as he's only been over a PPG player twice in his career, and his career average is roughly .8 PPG. I've yet to really see Jensen do his thing, but it could be the intangibles he brings. Holmstrom and Franzen aren't PPG players, but it's what they do infront of the net that makes them valuable to their teams.
I do agree that you need intangibles. On the statistical side of things, Parise was well over a ppg player in NCAA. I think Jayares was comparing minor league performances. A typical decent 2nd line power forward does not need to be a ppg, he just needs ~50 points (Jensen is projected as top 6).There are notable exceptions of players who did not perform well in the minor leagues. An example would be Tobias Ernstrom. I think he can turn out to be top 6 although his OHL stats are not promising because I would expect him to improve from 2010-11 season. 58 pts in 61 games to 58 in 57 is not cause to celebrate, but he did score 4 ahl goals in 6 games. (regular season)
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I still doubt Luongo will get moved any time soon. The asking price is simply too high and the tandem of Luongo/Schneider looks more reassuring than Schneider/Lack or Schneider/Veteran back up; especially if they have a slow start.

Luongo's played pretty solid in the regular season, he just lacks the same consistency in the playoffs, but then again, so do the players who play in front of him.

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Our young guys need to step up. I'd love to see a rookie line of Jensen-Schroeder-Kassian but that'd never happen with AV coaching...
Exactly. AV hates young players. It's very difficult for the Canucks to develop any of their young talent if they spend most of their time out of the line up or on the bench. It's not like the Canucks are a borderline playoff team, they should take chances with their young players in key situations and in tight games.
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Obviously Lu/Schneids looks great as a tandem, but 35 has basically taken over the starting position, and Lu isn't the type of guy that is happy with playing backup..regardless of how much he's paid. He won't stay here for much longer.
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I still doubt Luongo will get moved any time soon. The asking price is simply too high and the tandem of Luongo/Schneider looks more reassuring than Schneider/Lack or Schneider/Veteran back up; especially if they have a slow start.

Luongo's played pretty solid in the regular season, he just lacks the same consistency in the playoffs, but then again, so do the players who play in front of him.
+1, im gonna guess that they will start with both of them. With two good goalies, they will have to play hard to get #1 status.

Since Schneider doesnt have a NTC or anything, it will be easier to move him in case we need to move one.

I think if any of them move, it wont happen anytime soon, it will be closer to the 2013 trade deadline.
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Having two goalies competing for the starting job is going to make for a pretty awkward locker room.
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I do agree that you need intangibles. On the statistical side of things, Parise was well over a ppg player in NCAA. I think Jayares was comparing minor league performances. A typical decent 2nd line power forward does not need to be a ppg, he just needs ~50 points (Jensen is projected as top 6).There are notable exceptions of players who did not perform well in the minor leagues. An example would be Tobias Ernstrom. I think he can turn out to be top 6 although his OHL stats are not promising because I would expect him to improve from 2010-11 season. 58 pts in 61 games to 58 in 57 is not cause to celebrate, but he did score 4 ahl goals in 6 games. (regular season)
True.

I just don't see why majority of the people on CDC are already guaranteeing him a spot in the top 6. He still seems a bit rusty and rough around the edges. There's no need to rush him.
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I just don't see why majority of the people on CDC are already guaranteeing him a spot in the top 6. He still seems a bit rusty and rough around the edges. There's no need to rush him.
cdc thought steve kariya, fedor fedorov and brandon reid were the next reincarnation of bure and gretzky. its cdc nothing is really worth taking seriously there
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lu and schneids will prob just flip a coin or rock paper scissors to play
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I just don't see why majority of the people on CDC are already guaranteeing him a spot in the top 6. He still seems a bit rusty and rough around the edges. There's no need to rush him.
I haven't seen many people guaranteeing him a top 6 spot, but I don't see why he shouldn't have a shot at it. Our second line is lacking something and if Jensen can bring it, why not? Giving him a shot > guaranteeing Raymond a spot on the second to start the year. If he performs well in camp there's no reason that he shouldn't crack the roster. If he's up to the level of play it's not really rushing him. Give him 9 games if he deserves it and go from there.

The guy has great skills and is oozing with potential.

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I haven't seen many people guaranteeing him a top 6 spot, but I don't see why he shouldn't have a shot at it. Our second line is lacking something and if Jensen can bring it, why not? Giving him a shot > guaranteeing Raymond a spot on the second to start the year. If he performs well in camp there's no reason that he shouldn't crack the roster. If he's up to the level of play it's not really rushing him. Give him 9 games if he deserves it and go from there.

The guy has great skills and is oozing with potential.

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Really? Weise was an adequate 4th liner but he's gonna get destroyed at an arbitration meeting lol..
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I haven't seen many people guaranteeing him a top 6 spot, but I don't see why he shouldn't have a shot at it. Our second line is lacking something and if Jensen can bring it, why not? Giving him a shot > guaranteeing Raymond a spot on the second to start the year. If he performs well in camp there's no reason that he shouldn't crack the roster. If he's up to the level of play it's not really rushing him. Give him 9 games if he deserves it and go from there.

The guy has great skills and is oozing with potential.

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Thanks for the vid of Jensen.

I really would like to see the kids come up to play and stick around on the Canucks.

We need some youth, excitement and new energy to push the Canucks over the edge.

Last 3-4 years it's been too predictable. Shut down the Sedins and Kesler and it's GG. To be the most competitive team night in and night out you need 3 scoring lines and a 4th line as your checking line that can put in a timely goal.
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I haven't seen many people guaranteeing him a top 6 spot, but I don't see why he shouldn't have a shot at it. Our second line is lacking something and if Jensen can bring it, why not? Giving him a shot > guaranteeing Raymond a spot on the second to start the year. If he performs well in camp there's no reason that he shouldn't crack the roster. If he's up to the level of play it's not really rushing him. Give him 9 games if he deserves it and go from there.

The guy has great skills and is oozing with potential.

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Wow, dont think i've ever seen this before. He definitely looks promising in those clips.
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Too bad AV's going to be like...

Jensen's pretty good

But he's a rookie
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It seems like the only rookie AV likes is Tanev. Hopefully he gives the younger kids room to make their mistakes, learn and grow. He hasn't done a good job of that in the past at all but c'est la vie.
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lol so is it confirmed that strombone is luongo?

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^ how is that confirmed? he's on a plane.
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Never said that was confirmation, was asking if it was confirmed or not because the tweet would be funny if it were actually him.
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