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Old 07-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #1501
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minnesota is not going to drastically improve with these two players. they still have alot of holes to fill. Its not the NBA.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:19 PM   #1503
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22% of their cap on two players who is the best american LW and best american D. Time to start a new tradition in hockey state usa. Now i can finally go to some wilds game now without falling asleep!
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would u guys consider parise as a top 10 forward or a top 20?
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Top 20 for sure. Top 10 is a tough call.

Crosby, Malkin, Ovie, Stamkos, Giroux and the twins are 7 already haha.
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Parise is a bit overrated IMO. He holds around the same value as a healthy Kesler.
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:38 PM   #1507
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Are we a cup favourite team yet?

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Top 20 for sure. Top 10 is a tough call.

Crosby, Malkin, Ovie, Stamkos, Giroux and the twins are 7 already haha.
I don't think Parise is overrated, but he's in my top 20. Off the top, here's my list in no particular order:

Sidney Crosby
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now that ryder is out of the top 6 roll in dallas any chance he might be available for cheap?
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I don't think Parise is overrated, but he's in my top 20. Off the top, here's my list in no particular order:

Sidney Crosby
Evengi Malkin
Steven Stamkos
Jonathan Toews
Calude Giroux
Alex Ovechkin
John Tavares
Pavel Datsyuk
Rick Nash
Zac Parise
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Eric Staal
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Patrick Kane
Joe Thornton
Kane? I would put St Louis over Kane.

I forgot which GM said this, but they said when you want to build a winning team, you need good centres as much as you need a good goalie. Or something in those terms.

But if you look at the top players in the league. Majority of them are centres.

Sidney Crosby
Evengi Malkin
Steven Stamkos
Jonathan Toews
Calude Giroux
John Tavares
Pavel Datsyuk
Henrik Sedin
Jason Spezza
Ryan Getzlaf
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Kane? I would put St Louis over Kane.

I forgot which GM said this, but they said when you want to build a winning team, you need good centres as much as you need a good goalie. Or something in those terms.

But if you look at the top players in the league. Majority of them are centres.

Sidney Crosby
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Steven Stamkos
Jonathan Toews
Calude Giroux
John Tavares
Pavel Datsyuk
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Jason Spezza
Ryan Getzlaf
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Joe Thornton
Ya you could slide in either one. Thing is Kane is only 23 whereas St Louis is 37.
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They are.
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parise is from minny and so is his wife. family comes first

he also said it was down to minny or NJ

Suter it was down to Nashville, Detroit or Minny.
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I don't think Parise is overrated, but he's in my top 20. Off the top, here's my list in no particular order:

Sidney Crosby
Evengi Malkin
Steven Stamkos
Jonathan Toews
Calude Giroux
Alex Ovechkin
John Tavares
Pavel Datsyuk
Rick Nash
Zac Parise
Daniel Sedin
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Patrick Kane
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Idk But I think Benn should be somewhere on the list
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Not in the top 20. Couture might be in the top 50. Gaborik maybe 30-40.

And you can't put Benn on a list that doesn't have James Neal.
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Omg thank you Parise and Suter for not going to Detroit.

I'm pretty excited for this year. Detroit and Nashville aren't the same. Minny improved a bit, but not enough for them to cause much damage. Imo, LA and St. Louis are the only threats and the good thing is that they're both in different conferences.

I think it's likely that us, La, and STL will win the respective conferences, which means that we'll face them in the later stages of the playoffs, where anything can happen.

Seems like this is an awesome year for us to make the conference finals, barring injury or some unexpected team surprises us, a la LA this year.
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Omg thank you Parise and Suter for not going to Detroit.

I'm pretty excited for this year. Detroit and Nashville aren't the same. Minny improved a bit, but not enough for them to cause much damage. Imo, LA and St. Louis are the only threats and the good thing is that they're both in different conferences.

I think it's likely that us, La, and STL will win the respective conferences, which means that we'll face them in the later stages of the playoffs, where anything can happen.

Seems like this is an awesome year for us to make the conference finals, barring injury or some unexpected team surprises us, a la LA this year.
I guess that's one way to look at it if you're an optimist.
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Way to early to predict anything like that. Injuries always alter things.
Players in slumps, teams making blockbuster trades near deadline, etc

Anything can happen. Thinking about an easy path through playoffs
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what a fucking tool.... adding suiter and parise to the wilds doesnt mean they will make the playoffs... or the top of the northwest.
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I hope this isnt the new trend where every top 50 player looks for a 10+ year 100 million dollar contract
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Minnesota had a great first half of the season and then the wheels fell off. They are already a tough team to face against just had very little counter attack. While they might not be challengers for the Cup, they are a lot more competitive now. They have Brodin, Coyle, Phillips and Granlund as their top prospects that will either be with the team this year (Granlund and perhaps Brodin on D) or next year. Plus with Cullen and PMB off the books next year, with another potentially deep UFA list to try to pick from, Fletcher has done a great move for the Wild.
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