I would be a lot easier if the cons would agree and help out. But they would rather give tax cuts to the rich.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9661370/c...ild-care-plan/

Bro.. your boy and his jagmeat are the ones controlling everything

Love that you’re grasping at straws like he is though. The end is near.

Not selling it very well

PP could have done a deal with JT but didn't. Let me know when PP gets his security clearance.

I gotta be inclusive now. We’ll beat(off?) your tranny kids too :badpokerface:

A few months before Covid, we sent our 2.5 year old to CEFA on Broadway and Burrard because it was new and the only location that has space at the time. It was $2.2k for 3 days/week or something around $3k for 5 days. Maybe catering to the VGH crowd.

$800-$1200 a month felt like a steal.

Currently paying over 4k for a nanny to watch over 2 kids. My older one is going to Kindergarten in a couple weeks and now my nanny is moving back to Ireland in December. I"ll be out of childcare in a few months for my little one. Past couple weeks been phoning and emailing 40+ childcare centers around for a spot. 2-3 year waitlist for everything. Even Cefa I can't even get in. I'd gladly pay even 3k a month for a proper childcare center vs a nanny since it will be cheaper for a single kid. Just want to start saving money again but I guess I'll have to wait for another couple years....

How?

Mmmm all the houses and cars I can get for $4000 a month. Time to move to Asia, according to my CO worker you can hire a maid in HK for $700 CAD a month :ahwow: I can live like a king

Supposedly, couples are recommended to start putting their "child" on daycare waitlists when they are trying for pregnancy. I know it sounds absurd, but that's what it takes to get a spot at some places.

The tricky thing is -- at some of those very same places that are much sought after, they won't actually take your name down unless mommy is already pregnant. :fulloffuck:

And tons of places (most?) don't take kids that are younger than 2.5 yrs old bcos of stricter regulatory requirements -- there is a lower child-to-caregiver ratio for kids younger than 2.5 yrs old. And tons of places (most?) don't take kids who have not been potty trained.

In the pre-COVID world, we started putting ourselves on daycare waitlists at around the 5-month pregnant mark, and we actually only heard back from some of those same daycares by the time our little person was over 3 yrs old. And the only reason we heard back from them was bcos COVID has resulted in tons of parents taking their kid out of daycare.

And that's the funny thing with COVID -- it actually made daycare availability very, very easy. Of course, it is an entirely different matter whether you wanted to put your child into daycare during that time...

ironed undies

Yeah but you'll pay dearly in rent if you don't have a place to stay, and pay even more to operate a car there.

Sounds rough in the City of Vancouver...

Imagine paying $2 million+ for the privilege of living in a Vancouver special, only to be disappointed by a lack of daycare spaces and having to pay another mortgage payment for a nanny.

That’s why this place is utterly insane to start raising a family.

Thank god I only have to take care of two chihuahuas and a tiny spy balloon. No 4k a month daycare costs for this schmuck.

Yep, we were lucky we got a spot for my youngest into preschool because of covid, and then now b4/afterschool care and daycare for my youngest because we got into brand new facilities. Before that, we weren't on any lists because I didn't want to pay for the stupid application fees just to be on a list and you might not even get in.

I can't imagine waiting 2-3 years on a multiple waitlists and still not being able to get in...that would totally suck.

I don't actually know anyone that paid $2M+ for a property without having the wealth boost from owning property pre 2015.

Those who do though are probably the real ballers, aka $5 - 10M+ net worth out of town. Most, if not all the peeps on my moms block were low income, non skilled immigrants that worked 60+ hours a week to buy their $60-300K house.

Taking care of two chihuahuas and a spy balloon probably costs more than $4k/month. :troll:

It was a bit tongue in cheek - but no matter how people paid for their detached house in Vancouver, spending $6-8K in monthly housing costs for that Vancouver special seems like an awful deal if you can't even find childcare.

I’m sure a lot of people here with kids here make more than my wife and I but if we were looking at $2000+ a month in child care that would mean little to no investment contributions.

So you’re working just to live day to day

No disrespect to people that don't want kids, but having kids isn't not all bad, and isn't really something that I look at and think what's the ROI on this financial investment.

It's like telling a pet owner that you should never get a pet because of the high cost of health care for animals... but of course many many pet owners will tell you that the expensive emergency surgery was worth every penny.

My kid means the world to me. For us at least, having family is money well spent.

My dad used to love telling me that his coworker that started the same time as him and made the same money bought a Corvette and a Viper and went on trips constantly while he had no car besides his company car and only went on work trips lol

I may be wrong, but I feel like maybe he didn't think I was a good tradeoff :D

But even applying when you start trying isn't enough. If it takes 3.5 years to get a space, take away a year for mat leave and a year for the pregnancy & trying you need to apply at least 18 months or more before you even start trying for a kid to be confident that you'll have a daycare space. That's not something you can "just figure out" beforehand. For some people I know that would've meant going to apply for daycares on their first date lol.

Tell me you're from Kelowna without telling me you're from Kelowna :fullofwin:

The worst part about having kids is how they affect your vacations now. Going on vacation with your family is just baby sitting in a different location, which isn't all bad, but it's nothing like it was before. We went to Hawaii and spent about $8k for seven days and it wasn't very relaxing at all. At our age group < 3y.o I think all inclusive in Mexico is the better play.

Gone are the days you can get lost in a city, have a 3pm lunch, be spontaneous. Which to me is the whole point of a vacation, to escape from your every day.

I'm okay with the lack of sleep, i'm okay with being a forever servant to my child, I just really miss going on a proper vacation with just me and the wifey.

Just spent the weekend with my parents and siblings and their kids. After having a handful of beers and watching my sister try and wrangle her kids at the patios we went to and keep their entertained I kinda just blurted out that you couldn’t pay me $1000 to look after them lol

Obviously hyperbole but they didn’t like it too much lol I just can’t stand kids running around making noise etc. I don’t think I’d be going out at all if I had to bring kids along lol