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In that videos description it names an SNL writer and Kids in the Hall producer who killed himself and left a suicide note which denounced isreal.
I remember reading our Global? news online which took parts of his note but edited the top main isreali comments... so they fraudulently made it look like his suicide letter had no mention of his political beliefs... and misrepresented a dead mans last words.
Can we have some hard sources for that accusation? I mean, something better than a YouTube comment.
If I believed YouTube comments, my mother is a whore and I suck wild cocks all day. I can't suck wild cocks all day. I've got stuff to do!
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She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
El Bastardo, which site is the Global, local one?
Find the original note, which should take awhile to track down, and compare it to the Global one, I cant find it from a quick look.
El Bastardo, which site is the Global, local one?
Find the original note, which should take awhile to track down, and compare it to the Global one, I cant find it from a quick look.
Okay. So a draft dodger who worked in the entertainment industry references Israel in his suicide note. Global also failed to mention that he talked about his SAT scores, gay marriage, and illegal activities by the CIA. It doesn't mean they're slanting the news. And it doesn't mean they're zionist pig dog illuminati new world order shadow lizard people by not mentioning it.
What I'm having a hard time understanding is how this has anything to do with Terrence Nelson speaking to PressTV about native issues in Canada.
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She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
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Thats not the right Global one, the one I saw had kept the top format of the note but edited the political points. It was very disrespectful in what they did... it was as if; here we have provided the main part of the note... no need for you to look for the original and read what he said about isreal.
Anyways, you guys are questioning the Iranian news channels credibility when this chiefs visit and public announcement of Canada's crimes dont make it on the national tv news, atleast it doesnt show a clip of these developments on their tv video website clips.
I doubt any new developments are going to happen anytime soon... no need to keep bumping this thread.
Last edited by CharlesInCharge; 10-19-2012 at 12:57 PM.
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What do these "human rights violations" encompass, exactly?
If his goal is to slander Canada, then perhaps he should refrain from coming back, because the money his people get comes from how well Canada is doing economically. Making people believe that Canada is as good as Nazi Germany contradicts that statement entirely, what he is essentially saying is "I hate the Canadian government and the money it constantly gives me."
So I ask again, what is the purpose of a first nations chief speaking to Iranian leaders? Shouldn't he be leading a campaign in Canada over such "human rights violations"? Does he really think that the people of Iran are going to give a fuck, let alone do anything about it?
The audience that matters is right here, and I haven't seen any kind of resistance in terms of a serious campaign to stop whatever is bothering them. Perhaps they have made noise in the past, but it wasn't loud enough for me to hear it, you could say that it's loud enough because we're talking about it right now, but that's only because some exiled chief is making an ass of himself overseas.
I would say PressTV has had the most true and intellectual humanitarian rights speakers on its channel in the world. It will forever gaining popularity that is why its being banned in Europe for the second time. Terry has bravely chosen the right channel for the world to know the first nations and Canadian issues.
I dont know if members want this thread constantly going, maybe MindBomber can make some comments to your points and I can rebuttal my views too after.
It doesn't matter what outlet is recording the conversation, what matters is why he is talking to Iranian leaders over a Canadian domestic issue, when there is really nothing Iran can do about it. A better use of resources would be to rally the people of the first nations groups in Canada and make noise, all this comes off as, is a personal grab for attention.
It's important that indigenous people worldwide work to together to change the contemporary culture that colonization removes entitlement to any measure of ownership over land and the assets it holds, and not solely because an economic benefit can be derived. An indigenous peoples connection to land is a fundamental component of both spirituality and traditional lifestyle, and stripping entitlement to any degree of ownership makes it dramatically more difficult, if not impossible, to maintain these elements of a culture. The systematic eradication of indigenous culture in centuries past makes that all the more important. Canadian's pride ourselves in the fact that we don't require immigrants to check their culture at the door, as it were, but until only recently non-ancestral Canadians demanded First Nations abandon their culture. Everyone here is familiar with the Haida people, but how many know that a century ago all Haida people could fluently speak the Haida language, and currently only 30 people who can speak the language remain, all elders. When a culture has been left in ruins, preserving every element left of it possible becomes very important, and that's part of the reason land rights is a hard fought battle.
That's not to say indigenous people are against progress. With the exception of the most extreme elements, indigenous people are happy to share space, just as long as fair balance is achieved. By the indigenous people of Canada working with those of America, Australia, South America, Mongolia, and so on, we can create a worldwide shift in thought. Progress in Canada setting precedence for re-negotiation of treaties in America, and progress within North America setting precedence for United Nations standards that impact developing countries indigenous people.
If Iran legitimately wants to help raise the status of indigenous culture worldwide it is commendable and will have a ripple effect, and part of helping is bringing to light the human rights violations governments don't like talking about, because it looks bad and scares away resource development. That's the idea of bringing Nelson on PressTV. Nelson is an idiot on an extreme in First Nations politics and doesn't represent our people well, so I still think that Iran should have chosen someone else... like, almost anyone else.
Work within an indigenous peoples given country is still the highest priority of course.
I still think Iran is primarily interested in bashing Western countries, but there could be some good intentions present as well. Western countries do the same thing with our media, so you can't really be too hard on Iran for doing it.
One thing that comes to mind when discussing media.
America and it's 60 year battle against the 'evil commies' that's mostly baseless.
Compared to the North Korean propaganda film that was posted awhile ago, and it's basically dead on with it's criticisms of America.
/slightly impaired post
lets move onto what we're really all interested in now...
How's the paper mache coming along?
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I can't believe such an insightful post came out of such a garbage thread. MindBomber you should start a thread about First Nations issues and post news as well as your own analysis of the situation. I know I would follow it and I'm sure many others would.
lets move onto what we're really all interested in now...
How's the paper mache coming along?
Yeah, I have yet to see your creation on the road Arash, even though you backed THAT up with so much passion and said you'd have a non-paper mache car ready. OH WAIT, you're just backing up your crazy ideas again and not listening to anyone else by deflecting the argument.
I've seen this before, and it's hilarious how the discourse is exactly the same.
Edit* Look at me divert attention away from the original argument like you! At least what I'm asking is relevant to YOU!
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What do these "human rights violations" encompass, exactly? Are we back to page one on this one?
If his goal is to slander Canada, then perhaps he should refrain from coming back, because the money his people get comes from how well Canada is doing economically. Slander? refrain from coming back? The money he gets because Canada is doing so well?
I thought MindBomber would touch up on your ridiculous comments but its back to square one with you. I dont have time or the energy to respond to this silliness and the rest of your post.
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If Iran legitimately wants to help raise the status of indigenous culture worldwide it is commendable and will have a ripple effect, and part of helping is bringing to light the human rights violations governments don't like talking about, because it looks bad and scares away resource development. That's the idea of bringing Nelson on PressTV. Nelson is an idiot on an extreme in First Nations politics and doesn't represent our people well, so I still think that Iran should have chosen someone else... like, almost anyone else.
Nice post so far except it appears that Nelson and friends were the ones who sought help from other countries and all of them ignored him as he says in his longer, full video.
Whether you like it or not, Nelson is obviously leading this campaign and from watching his interviews he's dam good.
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/slightly impaired post
lets move onto what we're really all interested in now...
How's the paper mache coming along? Its going good
Last edited by CharlesInCharge; 10-27-2012 at 05:05 PM.
Whether you like it or not, Nelson is obviously leading this campaign and from watching his interviews he's dam good.
WHAT campaign? MindBomber has pointed out multiple times that the First Nations community wants nothing to do with Nelson, so if anything he's there on a personal vendetta. This "campaign" is 20% awareness, 80% Nelson talking out of his ass about his stance on First Nations issues that probably got him ousted in the first place.
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Last edited by CorneringArtist; 10-20-2012 at 06:32 AM.
CorneringArtist your talking out of your ass, what in his interview is 80% Nelson?
Just because Im Iranian and watch Iranian TV, does that make me an authority on what Iranian people think?
CorneringArtist your talking out of your ass, what in his interview is 80% Nelson?
Just because Im Iranian and watch Iranian TV, does that make me an authority on what Iranian people think?
A "NO U" rebuttal, why am I not surprised. And to answer your question, you strongly pass yourself off as a harbinger for the Iranian people, since you seem to completely dismiss anything critical of Iran, but fail to properly answer said critics. Posted via RS Mobile
CorneringArtist your talking out of your ass, what in his interview is 80% Nelson?
Just because Im Iranian and watch Iranian TV, does that make me an authority on what Iranian people think? No but apparently because Nelson happens to have been born native and is currently elected by less than 2150 people to his LOCAL chieftan position it makes him an authority on what all other native people think, among other things.
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An Iranian who lives in Vancouver and complains about Canadian Human rights. You can now STFU.
I eagerly await the day when Israel levels Irans nuclear ambitions back to the stone age.
TRUTH. However, already tried that. He'll call you racist for some stupid reason Then somehow he finds a bullshit way of deflecting your statement with another one completely off topic.
No but apparently because Nelson happens to have been born native and is currently elected by less than 2150 people to his LOCAL chieftan position it makes him an authority on what all other native people think, among other things.
Give Ron Paul the proper air time and he could be victorious too.
If everyone wokeup and put Nelson in power, he would throw out the illegal national debt... or atleast we'd choose someone who does.
She taught me right from wrong and always told me to stay positive and help others no matter how small the deed - that helping others gives us meaning to carry on. The sun is out today and it's a new day. Life is good. I just needed a slap in the face.
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