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PeanutButter 06-15-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9067167)
Wasn't I saying this would all drop from early on in this thread :lol

Crypto is nothing but a Ponzi scheme, it's not an asset. I'm sure we'll see crypto utilized in some governed and regulated capacity one day for payment purposes, but the world of privately run crypto will become a distant memory. I have little sympathy for those that lost their shirts as a result of their greed by jumping into this crap.

The art world is a giant Ponzi as well, but there's still a market for it.

I will admit, you could be totally right. Crypto could die off and be one of the biggest losers in all of human history...

But, the thing I LOVE about investing is... It's really easy to tell the winners and the losers. Hopefully, we'll both be around here in 10 years and if we are, it'll be pretty easy to tell who the winner and loser is.

murd0c 06-15-2022 03:30 PM

if it's not gold it will be worthless sooner or later.

westopher 06-15-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9067195)
The art world is a giant Ponzi as well, but there's still a market for it.

I will admit, you could be totally right. Crypto could die off and be one of the biggest losers in all of human history...

But, the thing I LOVE about investing is... It's really easy to tell the winners and the losers. Hopefully, we'll both be around here in 10 years and if we are, it'll be pretty easy to tell who the winner and loser is.

Art has speculation just like the classic car market, but it's not a pyramid scheme, since it actually exists.

mikemhg 06-15-2022 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9067195)
The art world is a giant Ponzi as well, but there's still a market for it.

I will admit, you could be totally right. Crypto could die off and be one of the biggest losers in all of human history...

But, the thing I LOVE about investing is... It's really easy to tell the winners and the losers. Hopefully, we'll both be around here in 10 years and if we are, it'll be pretty easy to tell who the winner and loser is.

While I agree that the art market is somewhat similar in terms of speculation, and the idea of drumming up false demand based on scarcity, and exclusivity.

The only difference is that art in the real world still carries a physical presence. Fine art in particular carries a physical presence, along with exclusivity if it is a historical piece of art. Contemporary art on the other hand is also a load of bullshit, but hey, it does exist in the physical world (not that I'd ever recommend dabbling in that market).

moldex 06-15-2022 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9067167)
Wasn't I saying this would all drop from early on in this thread :lol

Crypto is nothing but a Ponzi scheme, it's not an asset. I'm sure we'll see crypto utilized in some governed and regulated capacity one day for payment purposes, but the world of privately run crypto will become a distant memory. I have little sympathy for those that lost their shirts as a result of their greed by jumping into this crap.

Thanks for watching our backs bro. BTC only went up 150,000% since the start of this thread, fuck that ponzi shit, good thing I listened and just DCA'd into the stock market instead which is 100% legit and not manipulated. No way anybody could lose 80% of their networth buying a real company Shopify.

Gerbs 06-15-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9067195)
The art world is a giant Ponzi as well, but there's still a market for it.

I will admit, you could be totally right. Crypto could die off and be one of the biggest losers in all of human history...

But, the thing I LOVE about investing is... It's really easy to tell the winners and the losers. Hopefully, we'll both be around here in 10 years and if we are, it'll be pretty easy to tell who the winner and loser is.

Hopefully we all drip in our collector plated 458's and 90's/00's JDM classics :ilied:

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Originally Posted by moldex (Post 9067216)
Thanks for watching our backs bro. BTC only went up 150,000% since the start of this thread, fuck that ponzi shit, good thing I listened and just DCA'd into the stock market instead which is 100% legit and not manipulated. No way anybody could lose 80% of their networth buying a real company Shopify.

If you didn't expect you could lose 80% of your networth holding 1 SINGLE stock plus you chose Shopify. You deserve to lose 80% and I'd laugh at you lol.

It depends on the type of investor you are though. You can't say one is better than another without considering risk. You sound like you wanna spend $10 - 100K and bink a $1Mil + Payout over night or even over 5 years. While majority of us here are pretty happy to sack away $1 - 5k/month and have $2 - 4Mill nest eggs in 20-40 years. With some major swings of 40 - 50% along the way. Total portfolio value will never be 100% at risk.

SkinnyPupp 06-15-2022 07:11 PM

Bitcoin will be fine once most of the bankers and gamblers and other scammers are out. It can go back to being a useful underground currency. And it won't really matter that it's worth in US Dollars to people using it this way.

donk. 06-15-2022 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9067221)
Hopefully we all drip in our collector plated 458's and 90's/00's JDM classics :ilied:

Do not has

Calling hoax again

Manic! 06-19-2022 04:51 PM

There is always a upside.

https://i.redd.it/t373qh687l691.jpg

moldex 06-19-2022 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerbs (Post 9067221)
If you didn't expect you could lose 80% of your networth holding 1 SINGLE stock plus you chose Shopify. You deserve to lose 80% and I'd laugh at you lol.

It depends on the type of investor you are though. You can't say one is better than another without considering risk. You sound like you wanna spend $10 - 100K and bink a $1Mil + Payout over night or even over 5 years. While majority of us here are pretty happy to sack away $1 - 5k/month and have $2 - 4Mill nest eggs in 20-40 years. With some major swings of 40 - 50% along the way. Total portfolio value will never be 100% at risk.

Shopify was an example. Case in point you can get rekt or make bank investing in anything. There's too much mumbo jumbo about what's a ponzi, what's the value of an asset blah blah. If you have an edge and can invest/trade with proper risk then do your thing.

I know few that WANT to invest for the next 40 years so they can retire at 65 and many that are FORCED to because they don't know how to get out of the game. If that's your goal, great, DCA into an index. Most are conditioned (brain washed perhaps) to view one form of investment better or safer than the other, but in the end, everything is a zero sum game.

threezero 06-27-2022 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by donk. (Post 9067188)
I think he meant in regards to taxes

Cold wallet to cold wallet transfer = no "paper" trail for govt to track

But then how are you supposto buy dogicoins and supersafemoonelonrocketship coin :(

DEX exist. You can totally buy your favor of shitcoin without touching a CEX. But ofc liquidity is low on DEX so you will never get the best price versus CEX.

Issue with taxes is. There is no legal way for the government to prove you own cold wallet xyz. Or that you STILL have access to cold wallet xyz. What if your account on the CEX exchange is hacked? Who has the onus to prove whether you still have access to the fund.

Also Tornado cash exist.
As it exists taxes for crypto really is a honor system. People that make their
living on crypto will have way more of an incentive to report their earning.


Are we still talking about if this whole thing is a ponzi? See you all in a couple of years :D

westopher 06-27-2022 04:49 PM

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A ponzi schem is a form of fraud that pays profits to earlier investors with funds from recent investors.
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Originally Posted by threezero (Post 9068142)

Are we still talking about if this whole thing is a ponzi?

Yes.

SkinnyPupp 06-27-2022 05:06 PM

I'm surprised BTC didn't crash further once it went under 20K.. Usually that happens with this kind of thing, even though there's no real reason for it to. Maybe it still will and this is just some resistance to that happening.. Bankers are weird

donk. 06-27-2022 05:10 PM

Govt: We see you transferred out 80k worth of dogicoins last year, but did not file taxes

Reply to CRA: my account was hacked, it's all gone

CRA: :pokerface:

I think threezero just solved how to not pay taxes on crypto

Just make sure you back it up with "I sold my holzfeller 1872 piano on CL, and deposited 80k into the bank around the same time"

threezero 07-12-2022 01:42 PM

Not sure if anyone is interested in a FREE ponzi lol.

9gag making their mark in the NFT space. Their first collection You are the MVP which was handed out to community member currently sitting at 10e + floor price.

Their upcoming collection the POTATOES will be a free mint. Anyone can enter their raffle but if you have an old 9gag account you increase your chance of winning the raffle.. If you have that 10+ year old 9gag account now is your chance (and if you hate NFT and think this is a ridiculous ponzi please reach out to me I would like to buy your older 9gag accounts)

You will need a metamask account with at least 0.069eth in the account. Mint itself is free + gas.

If you want to try your luck on a "ponzi" more detail on their raffle page

https://www.premint.xyz/potatoz-9gag/

threezero 07-21-2022 07:13 PM

Did anyone get lucky on the 9gag potatoes?

Ran to .99eth settle at .6 right now….

Not bad for a free lottery ticket….

StylinRed 07-21-2022 09:15 PM

Oh damn i was meaning to look into that, still have my ancient 9gag acct

threezero 07-21-2022 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 9070598)
Oh damn i was meaning to look into that, still have my ancient 9gag acct

Know a few people with ancient 9gag accounts that got this. So yes you might have missed out lol.

rumor of a token drop coming for holder as well. Overall very well receive by the community so far

Manic! 08-15-2022 01:36 AM

This story is wild. martin shkreli big tits and round asses.


SkinnyPupp 08-15-2022 01:53 AM

What kind of fucking idiot downloads the most generic sounding porn from a random torrent instead of just going to a streaming site?

This has to be him just stealing from himself, if that $400K belonged to his company or whatever.

Manic! 09-14-2022 02:24 PM

So the Eth merge is 8 hours away. Proof of work is ending and changing to proof of stake. Some places will be closing until the merge is complete. You will have to do nothing. many scammers will be out. Stay safe and lets hope this pumps the price up.

donk. 09-14-2022 03:42 PM

Mini pump until the dump continues till 2025

SkinnyPupp 09-14-2022 07:38 PM

Anyone know of a site similar to Preev.com, where it's literally just the current price? It has been down and I don't think it's coming back

https://webcompat.com/uploads/2017/1...96dfdba702.jpg

Manic! 09-14-2022 07:58 PM

Just google it. Type in Bitcoin price and google will pull up the current price. I use the app ftx. In it I have a list of 15 coins I track.

StylinRed 09-14-2022 08:12 PM

Are you guys going to mine anything else in the meantime or just sit and wait? According to whattomine there's still coins (for now) which would be profitable after hydro


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