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Old 06-06-2013, 11:14 PM   #26
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I'd probably leave this one out... Oh and go get tested..
didnt mean it like actually fuck her, meant it like fuck it LOL

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Old 06-07-2013, 12:21 AM   #27
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I've realized I've left out a bit that might be important. The past week or so, we've been a bit quiet (not kissing much except for small pecks for goodbyes or having sex because of that time of month). But at the same time I've also been busy with some work and she's been busy with midterm(s). I want to say it's me neglecting her (which I admit I've kinda been doing, she complained to the friend that I stopped hugging her and letting her "touch me"), but I guess that still doesn't make up for what she's done. Ugh.. why him?!

dbaz: She said those back when he said no, maybe to justify the rejection? I don't think they did anything when he came over that time. He came with a work partner to try to sign her up for Amway.

dino: We're in our early 20s, and yes, we've had those kind of talks. That last bit.. might be it.. her friend said she just might be lonely/neglected. Sigh.

We'll see how things go when she comes over tomorrow. If she still won't admit anything then it's a definite no. If she does, then we're going to have a long talk and if she wants to stay I'm going to ask for a lot of changes (and tell her to apologize to the dude's girlfriend, yeah).
seriously, don't try to find reasons to blame yourself for what happened man. nothing you can tell yourself will ever justify what happened. if she was truly into you, head over heels, a week of busy-ness shouldn't made her go down that path.

the thing is, you are only in your early 20's. what happens when things get real, you're going to be a lot more busy, and maybe she will too.

confront her straight on and just tell her as it is. if there's no honesty and trust now, there won't be a good future.
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Man, shitty situation. But you should definitely break up with her, don't even bother with a second chance and stop blaming yourself for what happened. The only thing that'll probably make you feel better right now is if you nark out the other guy for cheating on his gf and in turn have revenge sex with her. Kind of sounds like a good idea doesn't it??
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Old 06-07-2013, 03:29 AM   #29
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One last thing to think about: People don't cheat when they have what they want at home. Something ain't right with your relationship.
Seriously? There is no justification for cheating.
Don't have what you want at home? End the fucking relationship.
There is zero excuse to ever cheat on a bf/gf/fiance/spouse.
To cheat is the most despicable thing you can do to someone; clearly showing someone you're supposed to respect, care for, love, and cherish that you have zero respect, care, or love for them.

There is no gray area.
Relationship not good? End it. Don't cheat.
Relationship good? Don't cheat.
If you cheat, you deserve to get curb stomped. $

End this now OP. Before you're married with kids, and she cheats on you again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Don't be the guy that has to question down the road whether your kids are yours.
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I think this forum is used for people who are in denial, and are hoping for the ONE person to tell them the opposite of what they are already thinking/not wanting to hear....
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stewie: Wow, how long were you with her?

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm feeling pretty good now, actually getting entertained. We FaceTimed and I acted normal but I was grinding her about liking the dude and seeing him. Felt good to see her get upset about that. Still doesn't suspect that I know. Then after our goodnights she texted me that I need to earn my place back tomorrow...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm going to see what happens tomorrow. It's hard to make a decision without hearing everything first hand though. I'll post what happens.
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Food for thought: if the positions were reversed, she'd probably have dumped you in a heartbeat.
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i say its over, trust is the biggest thing in any relationship, that is clearly out the window. if you guys try to fix things you will become one jealous mutherfcker, if she gets a text it will drive you insane assuming its a guy, if shes out late you will be pulling your hair out all night.. this will all lead to more fighting and thats even more reason for her to go running to someone else.

I was semi cheated one once, i say semi because it wasnt all the way but even knowing how the ex and that guy talked drove me insane to the point i was always jealous and i hated every second of it.

its hard, but cut it free, go have some fun.. do all those things u have complained about not doing for the past 3 years.

7 billion people in the world, good chance there is a better girl for you.
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Man, is this really a question being asked?
Drop her fast.

You both are in your early 20s. She wants to have fun, not be attached. The fact that she wasn't going to tell you says it all.

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Just wow.....she's telling you that you need to start becoming a better boyfriend? Drop her.
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OP seems to have smartened up and is going to give us a play by play. Shit just got real.
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Seriously? There is no justification for cheating.
Don't have what you want at home? End the fucking relationship.
There is zero excuse to ever cheat on a bf/gf/fiance/spouse.
To cheat is the most despicable thing you can do to someone; clearly showing someone you're supposed to respect, care for, love, and cherish that you have zero respect, care, or love for them.

There is no gray area.
Relationship not good? End it. Don't cheat.
Relationship good? Don't cheat.
If you cheat, you deserve to get curb stomped. $

End this now OP. Before you're married with kids, and she cheats on you again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Don't be the guy that has to question down the road whether your kids are yours.
Alright, so I'll slow this down for you.

When I said, "People don't cheat when they have what they want at home. Something ain't right with your relationship" I meant that this wasn't a matter of forgiving for cheating. This is about something bigger. So, if he is willing to forgive cheating, they need to examine the relationship because this isn't about sex....it never is.

As for your comments about cheating being the worst thing you can do, cheating always = breaking up, once a cheater always a cheater blah blah blah. This is where you are wrong. And, this is where you show your age (me thinks early 20s, never really been in a mature ltr-meaning living together, etc). It isn't always black and white. You add mortgages, kids, family, bills, etc into the mix and this "pack yo shit and leave bullshit" isn't as easy as you think. People make mistakes. BIG mistakes. Some times these mistakes are heat of the moment and some are long drawn out mistakes. There is a difference.

Why do you think I asked how old there were and what level of relationship it was. You need to chill out and think about it. In this specific case, yes...it is probably best the relationship ends as it is in its early stages....even 3 years in, there has been no bigger commitment besides "dating".

I've never cheated, but I have been cheated on after a 9 year relationship...living together, house bought, accounts joint, etc. Its not as simple as you think.

P.S. This was a nice touch: "If you cheat, you deserve to get curb stomped". Give it a few years....well, maybe in your case, more than a few....and you'll realize how irrational your post is.

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Who gives a fuck about what your family thinks.

She cheated on you. She hasn't owned up. Shes NOT A KEEPER.

If you think she's "the onle one" out there for you, you should dump her and just find another girl. There are tons.

If you stay with her, good luck. Because if she cheated once, its just a matter of time until it happens again.
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lol dump her. There is a fine line between thinking aobut it and actually doing it.
Heck us guys always dream of fucking the next hot girl we see or that hot model but we don't do it.

She have decided to go ahead and fuck this guy. IMO she can do it again and agian and again......... This is what you do have sex with her, dump her afterewards.
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stewie: Wow, how long were you with her?

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm feeling pretty good now, actually getting entertained. We FaceTimed and I acted normal but I was grinding her about liking the dude and seeing him. Felt good to see her get upset about that. Still doesn't suspect that I know. Then after our goodnights she texted me that I need to earn my place back tomorrow...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm going to see what happens tomorrow. It's hard to make a decision without hearing everything first hand though. I'll post what happens.
she said that? i think she is the one who needs to earn her place back...
you already know what happened, her friend told you! Point is she cheated on you and i guess your gonna let that happen

i dont get OP...
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stewie: Wow, how long were you with her?

Thanks for the responses guys. I'm feeling pretty good now, actually getting entertained. We FaceTimed and I acted normal but I was grinding her about liking the dude and seeing him. Felt good to see her get upset about that. Still doesn't suspect that I know. Then after our goodnights she texted me that I need to earn my place back tomorrow...

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm going to see what happens tomorrow. It's hard to make a decision without hearing everything first hand though. I'll post what happens.
AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO'S RAGINGGG ABOUT THIS?!!?

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I wanna slap the OP, and bitch slap that hoe.

Cant turn a hoe into a housewife.
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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO'S RAGINGGG ABOUT THIS?!!?

Son, she playing you...she playing you GUUUUD.
Also laughed my ass off.
She knows she has him on the leash
That's why she didn't give a fuck about cheating on him.
If she said shit like that she's playing you real good as edc said
Leave her. She won't give a fuck about you leaving her anyways.
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WTF OP? Be a man and fucking confront her. Stop acting "normal" and acting like you don't know. Tell her what her friend told you and demand the truth. If she refuses to talk, dump her ass.

And that comment about earning your place back ...
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haha I'd just be like hey baby, there's something I need to tell you.. I'm sorry but I cheated on you.. you've been so honest and caring I feel super guilty. I'm sorry we can't be together.. hahahaha just own her and dump that beeyatch.. but first try anal
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gets cheated on, is told to earn his place back. still wants to try to work things out. holy fuck.
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haha I'd just be like hey baby, there's something I need to tell you.. I'm sorry but I cheated on you.. you've been so honest and caring I feel super guilty. I'm sorry we can't be together.. hahahaha just own her and dump that beeyatch.. but first try anal
Thanking you when i get home.

"sorry baby. I love you so much. I can never earn my place again. I cheated on you and the reason why i've been so distant lately is because everytime i touch you, kiss you, and have sex with you i remember how good she made me feel. It was the best sex i've ever had and the most passionate kiss i've ever shared with anyone. And i hate myself because i don't regret it one bit. It's over babe. Sorry. "

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I would like to address the issue you are currently engaged in.

Firstly, there is ample evidence that you have been cheated on. From the sex in the car all the way to the lying and spending nights out with this fellow (which could suggest more sex), I think you should simply retract from this relationship.

While it is difficult to disconnect from a long term relationship, your relationship is and will never be the same again.

If you have retained any semblance of dignity left for yourself the best thing you can do is to end the relationship with your "girlfriend". I use that term loosely due to the fact that the moment she cheated on you, your relationship came to a screeching halt.

Now... There will be some who will say, "forgive and forget", or "cheating can be justified on certain grounds". Perhaps, even your girlfriend will try to justify her actions along similar reasoning. You must be strong on this and not accept her excuses. You should however, expect and accept an apology from her.

The fact that you are both beginning to emotionally disconnect reaffirms my suspicion that your relationship is headed for rocky shores. You should quit while ahead as the repercussions later will most likely be to a greater scale than if you were to end things now while you stand on the high ground.

Given that she was out until 230am without your knowledge I presume that you are not living together. I suggest you return to her the objects that she gave you at the earliest possible convenience. Those that she wishes not to accept should be discarded appropriately (i.e. diesel or kerosene + matches).

Delete her contact information from your phone and start to forget. It may be difficult to do this on your own so perhaps some close friends would be willing to take you out for some drinks and for some fun to get your mind off the recent events.

As a closing point, I suggest that you inform "Nick's" girlfriend about the situation. She deserves to know what has happened as she too is party to this event and as such is a stakeholder in the events.


I wish you well on your future endeavors.
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