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Old 11-14-2013, 01:08 PM   #6176
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You realize that MacT is a puppet for Lowe and Katz, right?
Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that
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Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that
Obviously, but no one wants Hemsky. He's a slightly more talented, more injury prone version of Raymond with a price tag 5x higher ...
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@DarrenDreger: Oilers offered three 2nd round picks for Braydon Coburn at the Draft and couldn't close the deal. Trades in season are much harder to make.
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Kadri gets 3 games. I can live with that.
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Kadri gets 3 games. I can live with that.
McClement to center the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lines with Smithson taking the 4th?
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^pretty much. Leafs can't call up anyone without sending someone down at this point. At least 2 of the games are back to back against the Sabres and hopefully Bozak can return after that.
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@DarrenDreger: Oilers offered three 2nd round picks for Braydon Coburn at the Draft and couldn't close the deal. Trades in season are much harder to make.
Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal
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Shanahan said 3 games for Kadri boiled down to this: It wasn't intentional but he didn't do enough to avoid "or minimize" hit on Backstrom.
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Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal
for some reason i thought most of the TSN guys were rock solid

maybe it just applies to Bob Mack

haha but if Dreger is as bad as Eklund...

I hope Philly continues their strong comeback. #28 is a Crosby killer
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for some reason i thought most of the TSN guys were rock solid

maybe it just applies to Bob Mack

haha but if Dreger is as bad as Eklund...

I hope Philly continues their strong comeback. #28 is a Crosby killer
Don't forget Pierre Lebrun! I think he's as reliable, if not more than Bobby.
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Funny how Lucic got nothing for...probably a much more malicious hit but Miller was way out of the crease.
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Funny how Lucic got nothing for...probably a much more malicious hit but Miller was way out of the crease.
That was back in the Colin Campbell era ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and wasn't a penalty ...

This hit got 0 games and a 2 minute minor ...

This hit got 0 games and a 2 minute minor ...
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Dreger, though ... The guy has about as much credibility now as Eklund unless it's about the Leafs ...

And, also, obviously PHI wouldn't take that deal
Really? I've always found Dreger to be quite reliable.
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Original plan was to move Hemsky for depth/help, we all knew that
Just like orig plan was to move Lu for a roster player, top prospect, and high pick.

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That's a fair assessment, and reasonable suspension length. Good job Shanaban, or maybe he just got lucky on this one. So nothing came of the hit that he got a match penalty for? IMO that was a more questionable and definitely intentional play
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And the Oilers need to take notes from the Avs on how to rebuild. I don't think the Avs sustain their performance the whole season, but at least it gives some hope, and their prospects are nowhere near the caliber of Edmonton's prospects, IMO.
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And the Oilers need to take notes from the Avs on how to rebuild. I don't think the Avs sustain their performance the whole season, but at least it gives some hope, and their prospects are nowhere near the caliber of Edmonton's prospects, IMO.
They have two #1 picks, a #2, and a #3 ...

Mackinnon, E. Johnson, Landeskog, Duchene, and O'Reilly

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Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Gagner, and Eberle

It really doesn't seem like Edmonton has much, if any, skill advantage there. Maybe a bit more offensive skill, but Colorado certainly has players that have a more diverse skillset than Edmonton's. O'Reilly and Landeskog are both very versatile players and Mackinnon has some bite to his game as well. Only Duchene is similar to most of Edmonton's prospects and I'm hesitant to say he's any better or worse than them skill-wise.
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1) You need a goalie who can stop pucks
2) You need to have defensemen
3) You need forwards to actually play defense, mainly because you have no defenseman and the guy you rely on as your top d-man thinks he's a forward

I don't know what the Av's are doing right, I don't follow them, but if you're an Oilers fan it must hurt like hell to see a rebuilding team go from last in the west to 2nd in the NHL in just 1 off season (like I mentioned I don't think they stay there though). Or maybe it gives them hope, who knows.
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They have two #1 picks, a #2, and a #3 ...

Mackinnon, E. Johnson, Landeskog, Duchene, and O'Reilly

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Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Yakupov, Gagner, and Eberle

It really doesn't seem like Edmonton has much, if any, skill advantage there. Maybe a bit more offensive skill, but Colorado certainly has players that have a more diverse skillset than Edmonton's. O'Reilly and Landeskog are both very versatile players and Mackinnon has some bite to his game as well. Only Duchene is similar to most of Edmonton's prospects and I'm hesitant to say he's any better or worse than them skill-wise.
Johnson was brought in on a trade, Av's gave up 2 pretty pricey pieces to take a chance on Johnson who was underachieving with the Blues. And save for Mackinnon, the Avs had the same young players last season where they sucked it up

So basically the Oilers have too many of the same players, but they are unwiling to part with them (or have been in the past) to allow the whole team to move forward. That's not any of the players' fault. The Oilers now have a coach who's pretty bent on work ethic, was known as a player's coach, pretty good track record of working with and developing young players. Change doesn't happen overnight, but so far, it seems the players aren't getting the message. THAT is on the players.
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