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Pitt Meadows & Mission Raceway. Organize Race Pre-meets, post Racing related event Pics and discussion. In collaboration with The Speed Syndicate, Official race events presenter. [Solicitation of Professional Racing Events Allowed]
Got soaking wet yesterday but it was really good to learn RWD car control. Started getting comfortable towards the end of the day and used the throttle to steer the car a bit more in order to get more rotation.
Definitely not the ideal day, but good for learning throttle control!
Find an event mid summer on a sat or sun, and il join
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First track day with the S2000 at Mission, I am very n00b at manual performance driving, kept on forgetting to upshift or downshift. Not terrible, but more practice needed. The TPS channel didn't work for some reason even though I got it to calibrate. Was great doing it in a 101 environment where it wasn't as pressurized and had an instructor sitting in the right seat coaching me.
Lesson also learned that Mission is really hard on S2K rear brakes - ran through half-depth pads in 2.5 sessions of 7-8/10 driving, necessitating an emergency trackside pad change lol. Car did really great otherwise, it's the driver that needs work. My manual skills are very bad, you can see me hesitating to shift or having problems letting out the clutch smoothly enough.
First track day with the S2000 at Mission, I am very n00b at manual performance driving, kept on forgetting to upshift or downshift. Not terrible, but more practice needed. The TPS channel didn't work for some reason even though I got it to calibrate. Was great doing it in a 101 environment where it wasn't as pressurized and had an instructor sitting in the right seat coaching me.
Lesson also learned that Mission is really hard on S2K rear brakes - ran through half-depth pads in 2.5 sessions of 7-8/10 driving, necessitating an emergency trackside pad change lol. Car did really great otherwise, it's the driver that needs work. My manual skills are very bad, you can see me hesitating to shift or having problems letting out the clutch smoothly enough.
The fact that you had a set of pads ready to go meant you were well prepared. I've never brought pads to the track and I guess I'm either getting a tow home or not using the brakes.
The fact that you had a set of pads ready to go meant you were well prepared. I've never brought pads to the track and I guess I'm either getting a tow home or not using the brakes.
I didn’t have a set of pads ready, had to run to CT to get them (5 mins away in Mission thankfully) lol. S2000 uses same rear pads as 8th gen Civic rear so at least they’re common.
Looks like you were having fun and a great looking car!
One thing to keep in mind is that it is actually harder than you think on the brakes to brake less hard, and for longer. If the G meter in your video is accurate, you are braking at 0.3-0.4G with maybe peaks of 0.5G. That's definitely less than half of what I expect a modern street car with ABS can achieve on a dry day in a straight line such as coming into turn 1.
If you use the brakes harder for less time, you'll actually put less heat into them. (Mission is killer on brakes regardless, but this is still good practice). To achieve a margin of safety, you should still be braking basically as hard as you can, but just earlier, and let off the brakes earlier and roll into the corner.
For example - if you figure you can brake at the 3 marker in the best possible case scenario, then brake at 4 or 4.5, and as you get to your desired speed, get off the brakes and roll into the turn. Then, as you get more and more comfortable, move the braking point from 4.5 to 4, then to 3.5 and so-on.
First track day with the S2000 at Mission, I am very n00b at manual performance driving, kept on forgetting to upshift or downshift. Not terrible, but more practice needed. The TPS channel didn't work for some reason even though I got it to calibrate. Was great doing it in a 101 environment where it wasn't as pressurized and had an instructor sitting in the right seat coaching me.
Lesson also learned that Mission is really hard on S2K rear brakes - ran through half-depth pads in 2.5 sessions of 7-8/10 driving, necessitating an emergency trackside pad change lol. Car did really great otherwise, it's the driver that needs work. My manual skills are very bad, you can see me hesitating to shift or having problems letting out the clutch smoothly enough.
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^ What he said. I was helping a new driver a few years back and they were cooking their brakes every session. Turns out they were dragging their brakes into every corner, and applying 20% pressure instead of braking hard and fast.\
Modern traction/stability control also likes to grab the rear brakes once it detects something it doesn't like. BMW and Mazda has very active control systems (for very different tuning methods), I'm not sure how active the system is on a S2000.
Looks like you were having fun and a great looking car!
One thing to keep in mind is that it is actually harder than you think on the brakes to brake less hard, and for longer. If the G meter in your video is accurate, you are braking at 0.3-0.4G with maybe peaks of 0.5G. That's definitely less than half of what I expect a modern street car with ABS can achieve on a dry day in a straight line such as coming into turn 1.
If you use the brakes harder for less time, you'll actually put less heat into them. (Mission is killer on brakes regardless, but this is still good practice). To achieve a margin of safety, you should still be braking basically as hard as you can, but just earlier, and let off the brakes earlier and roll into the corner.
For example - if you figure you can brake at the 3 marker in the best possible case scenario, then brake at 4 or 4.5, and as you get to your desired speed, get off the brakes and roll into the turn. Then, as you get more and more comfortable, move the braking point from 4.5 to 4, then to 3.5 and so-on.
Cheers,
Mark
I was being pretty gentle with the brakes on the S2000 because I don't fully know the limits of the car yet - first time out on a proper track with the car, and first time on new (old) RT660s instead of street tires. Was hoping to get braver with the brakes in the afternoon but had to deal with the rear brake pad issue and by the time that was done, it was the end of the day sadly.
What you were saying was what Norm was saying to me as well, he was my instructor for the day. Definitely something to work on, instead of braking more gradually. For me it was a challenge to integrate new car + new tires + new type of transmission into something resembling a coherent mess, and something that I definitely need to work on by adding more seat time.
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^ What he said. I was helping a new driver a few years back and they were cooking their brakes every session. Turns out they were dragging their brakes into every corner, and applying 20% pressure instead of braking hard and fast.\
Modern traction/stability control also likes to grab the rear brakes once it detects something it doesn't like. BMW and Mazda has very active control systems (for very different tuning methods), I'm not sure how active the system is on a S2000.
Haha what is traction and/or stability control? This is an 02 with nothing but ABS in terms of "safety' nannies.
Originally Posted by Mr.Money i hate people who sound like they smoke meth then pretend like they matter.
Originally Posted by ilovebacon
Does anyone have a pair of 25 pounds one-inch hole for sale at a reasonable price?
Originally Posted by Badhobz
I saw some bimbo live streaming her coffee order while standing in line. I wanted to slap the phone out of her hand and throw her into the bean grinder
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