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Old 07-23-2014, 12:47 AM   #1551
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Hiring of that 28yr old GM who apparently loves Advanced Stats..

David Booth's Corsi numbers are amazing...

wonder if connected?

which reminds me..I should try to understand this advanced stats crap
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So Willie really wanted Bonino?

I'm looking forward in seeing what Bonino can do this season.
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Hiring of that 28yr old GM who apparently loves Advanced Stats..

David Booth's Corsi numbers are amazing...

wonder if connected?

which reminds me..I should try to understand this advanced stats crap
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All that bullshit advanced stats comes down to stuff like possession and shots for/against. They don't determine who wins the game but players that benefit their teams. Like...if you're in the opponent's zone over 50% of the time, you have a greater chance of winning the game.

Booth is the opposite of MayRay. MayRay could actually score but more often than not, the play ends on his stick because he's fallen over and lost it. Booth seldom loses the puck but can't fucking score. In the long run, Booth is a more beneficial player to the Canucks than MayRay.

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So Willie really wanted Bonino?

I'm looking forward in seeing what Bonino can do this season.
Bonino is young and put up just as many points as Kesler last year. He doesn't have the same upside...I doubt he'll be as good as Kesler was in '11 at any point...but still.
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All that bullshit advanced stats comes down to stuff like possession and shots for/against. They don't determine who wins the game but players that benefit their teams. Like...if you're in the opponent's zone over 50% of the time, you have a greater chance of winning the game.

Booth is the opposite of MayRay. MayRay could actually score but more often than not, the play ends on his stick because he's fallen over and lost it. Booth seldom loses the puck but can't fucking score. In the long run, Booth is a more beneficial player to the Canucks than MayRay.



Bonino is young and put up just as many points as Kesler last year. He doesn't have the same upside...I doubt he'll be as good as Kesler was in '11 at any point...but still.
Don't think Kesler will be as good as the Kesler of 2011. His injuries have been catching up to him physically.
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Odds are Bonino won't be anywhere near his Anaheim production because he won't be along side Getzlaf and Perry.

Also those advanced stats are seemingly a lot more about "value" than winning games. Stuff like what do you with the limit ice time you get, your turn over rate VS puck possession, scoring percentage vs shots taken
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I think Kesler will do fine in Anaheim.

He won't be required to do as much as he did in Vancouver. The Ducks still have Getzlaf who can play all around like Kesler and Nate Thompson who can PK. Kesler's ice time will be more balanced and he won't get ride like he did by Torts.
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keep in mind that Justin Williams has been a corsi/fenwick (one of those two stats) god for a while. and he ended up being the playoff MVP

he may be an outlier since he is so incredibly clutch, but i believe the stats do have some weight in his abilities as well.
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I love how they bring this guy in after they lock up Komarov, a horrible possession player, and Robidas, ditto.

How the hell did Nonis manage to keep his job? It's fucking mindblowing ...
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Nonis has done fine minus the Clarkson contract.

Stamkos has hinted again that he might go to Toronto when his contract is up.


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I love how they bring this guy in after they lock up Komarov, a horrible possession player, and Robidas, ditto.

How the hell did Nonis manage to keep his job? It's fucking mindblowing ...
Still don't get why they trade Joe Colborne for a 4th round pick.

Especially when your depth in C is so bad already. And then you see all the other teams out there stacking up on C.
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Nonis has done fine minus the Clarkson contract.

Stamkos has hinted again that he might go to Toronto when his contract is up.


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keep in mind that Justin Williams has been a corsi/fenwick (one of those two stats) god for a while. and he ended up being the playoff MVP

he may be an outlier since he is so incredibly clutch, but i believe the stats do have some weight in his abilities as well.
Booths possession stats were strong, but his shooting percentage was in the pits. Something like 4 to 5% as I recall, way lower than an avg NHL player. The analytics guys just kept on waiting and waiting for that shooting % to regress towards the mean, and still waiting... it's one thing to have strong possession stats but when you're being paid 4M+, you do need to put it in the net every once in a while. If you watched Booth (and the rest of the canucks) genuine luck was not on their side last year. I'm almost entirely sure the canucks will bounce back this year because things like luck tend to balance out over the course of time--Booth I'm not so sure we've seen a decent enough sample size and perhaps he's just one of those guys who pulls the avg shooting % down
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Hey... he said he was bored... not smart.
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Someone who can't recognize sarcasm is what then?
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only leafs fans would think of "I'm pretty happy in Tampa" as another way of saying, "I'm coming to Toronto".
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