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Soundy 12-03-2014 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8564440)
Which would include this boy btw.

Until he starts threatening the general public. And don't say "it's only a BB gun", a BB gun can do plenty of damage.

And again, they had to proceed on a worst-case scenario - the good of the community at large trumps that of one person whose actions are threatening them.

7seven 12-03-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 8564402)
Whenever a gun is involved I'll side with the police for shooting someone. The sad part is, replace that kids gun with a baseball bat in that video and watch it play out the same way, and some people here will still side with the cops.

Absolutely, but only if a subject advances towards an officer with a weapon in an aggressive manner, whether it is a firearm, bat, 2x4, chain, knife, etc.. the officer has every justification to shoot the subject.

You will always get these bleeding heart liberals always screaming its only a bat (or insert another weapon) but the officer has to protect himself from severe or fatal injury and prevent the aggressive subject with a weapon from getting past him and potentially doing harm or being a threat to the general public.

RRxtar 12-03-2014 08:18 PM

Since this seems to be the thread for police shootings now:

Anyone hear about that kid earlier this year that heard a knock on his door, asked who it was, no answer, opened the door and got shot by a cop because he was holding a gun? Except it wasn't a gun it was a Wii controller.

No you didn't. Because he was a white kid.


Grand jury: Officer used unauthorized force in deadly shooting... | www.wsbtv.com

scottsman 12-03-2014 10:56 PM

Surprised to hear that the officer in New York was not indicted. Thought the case was pretty clear given all the witnesses and the clear video.

StylinRed 12-04-2014 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scottsman (Post 8564552)
Surprised to hear that the officer in New York was not indicted. Thought the case was pretty clear given all the witnesses and the clear video.

About the chokehold? Agreed.

Bouncing Bettys 12-04-2014 12:18 AM

^Let alone the coroner ruled his death a homicide.

Ronin 12-04-2014 10:17 PM

So apparently another black guy was shot by a white cop this week...

Protesters March After Phoenix Police Kill Unarmed Black Man - NBC News

multicartual 12-05-2014 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8564584)
^Let alone the coroner ruled his death a homicide.


He died from a heart attack, the guy was morbidly obese


Whatever... the media has spun this again as "white cop bad, black man innocent" as always


Fuck listening to the media

StylinRed 12-05-2014 01:52 AM

US AG has found that Cleveland police are ill trained, and opt for excessive force too often

US: Cleveland police poorly trained, reckless

the last time the DOJ admonished them was back in 2004 but left it to Ohio to sort out their findings this time the DOJ will intervene

This isn't stemming from the Tamir Rice case btw (which also happened in Cleveland)

The investigation had been going on for 18 months due to
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Holder said the DOJ's 18-month investigation was prompted by more than the November 2012 event in which 13 police officers fired 137 shots into a car after a high-speed chase, killing two unarmed suspects.

7seven 12-05-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 8565017)
So apparently another black guy was shot by a white cop this week...

Protesters March After Phoenix Police Kill Unarmed Black Man - NBC News

Perhaps if he didn't reach into his waistband, flee from the officer and struggle with the officer, he wouldn't have been shot. Doesn't matter if he turned out to be unarmed, you can't be reaching into your waistband, ignoring the officer's commands when he doesn't know whether you have a weapon on you or not, flee and they struggle with him and expect not to get shot. Guy was probably fleeing because he had a criminal record, weed and a weapon in the car and oxy on him.

Phoenix police: Suspect unarmed when killed by officer

multicartual 12-05-2014 11:39 AM

Why are we even commenting on this when it is thousands of miles away and in another country?

hal0g0dv2 12-07-2014 09:09 PM

walked threw the protest in ny both nights, pretty crazy

dbaz 12-09-2014 01:13 AM

A Raw Uncensored Look at What Blacks Really Think About Racism ? Straight from Ferguson Protesters

people who think like this, no matter the race, is why shit can't get better.

Soundy 12-09-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8566904)
A Raw Uncensored Look at What Blacks Really Think About Racism ? Straight from Ferguson Protesters

people who think like this, no matter the race, is why shit can't get better.

Try reading the comments... :fulloffuck:

StylinRed 12-10-2014 05:51 PM

What you're seeing is just a lot of pent up frustration and when kids are overly frustrated they'll just say anything, even if they don't believe it, to express how frustrated they are. (come on you guys with kids should know that)

After all most of those interviewed, with the more outrageous viewpoints, were teenagers. And in that crowd of protesters he only found a few with such outrageous attitudes, after all he just keeps interviewing the same 3-4 people.

So it's kind of a disingenuous video to use as a representation of the group

adambomb 12-24-2014 09:54 AM

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Violent protests broke out again in suburban St. Louis after another black 18-year-old was fatally shot by a white police officer.
Are the protest still valid when the young black child is the cause of civil disobedience? :announce:


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St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar said the officer was questioning the 18-year-old and another man about a theft late Tuesday at a convenience store in Berkeley when the young man pulled a 9-mm handgun on him. The officer stumbled backward but fired three shots, one of which struck the victim, Belmar said.
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(mayor) Hoskins' news conference was interrupted by a pointed exchange with Jason Keith Coleman, a black Baptist minister who insisted the shooting was the latest example of deadly aggression by "trigger-happy" police toward blacks.

"Call it what it is — a police officer has killed another black man and this has got to stop," Coleman shouted at the mayor.
Why do leaders in the black community only focus on white cops killing blacks and lose sight of the responsibility that these young men lack.

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Belmar said the 18-year-old had a considerable criminal record in the less than two years since he turned 17, with three assault charges, armed robbery, armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/police-...uson-1.2883251

Hondaracer 12-24-2014 10:02 AM

Race wars nigga, race wars

7seven 12-24-2014 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by adambomb (Post 8572902)
Are the protest still valid when the young black child is the cause of civil disobedience? :announce:






Why do leaders in the black community only focus on white cops killing blacks and lose sight of the responsibility that these young men lack.




Police shooting: White Missouri officer shoots, kills black man who pulled gun near Ferguson - World - CBC News

The minister just needs to shut the fuck up. The dumbass deserved to be shot, raising a firearm and pointing it at an officer, this wasn't a race thing, it was a dumbass criminal being a moron. Surveillance video from the gas station even shows that Officer fatally shoots armed teen in town near Ferguson - CNN.com

hchang 12-24-2014 10:32 AM

I'm getting sick of this race card being pulled and the media trying to hype things up and blow shit out of proportion

Is the word "white" before police officer really necessary

RRxtar 12-24-2014 10:57 AM

at least CNN didnt get all liberal race bandwagon over the headline

"Police: Officer fatally shoots armed teen near Ferguson, Missouri"

westopher 12-24-2014 11:17 AM

What the fucking shit? So people are angry at a cop shooting someone that pointed a loaded gun at them? Ugh. America is DOOMED.

van_city23 12-24-2014 11:59 AM

yah, this is completely different. The freaking guy held a gun at the officer and a 18 year old should know the consequences of doing that. After the cops that got ambushed and killed just a few days ago, you have to be one real dumbass to think pointing a gun at an officer is going to end favourably for you

flagella 12-24-2014 02:33 PM

One of the comments had this video. Wish all black ppl could think like this.


Ronin 12-24-2014 09:02 PM

Apples and oranges. Unarmed, possibly surrendering guy gets shot a whole bunch of times vs. guy getting shot because he raised a gun on the cops. I think we know the difference.

westopher 12-24-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 8573093)
Apples and oranges. Unarmed, possibly surrendering guy gets shot a whole bunch of times vs. guy getting shot because he raised a gun on the cops. I think we know the difference.

Well you'd think that......
MOST would, but unfortunately the dumbest people are usually the most outspoken.


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