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supremematt85 08-31-2014 04:23 AM

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The7even 09-01-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parm104 (Post 8523381)
Da fuq is wrong with you?? I thought you're FROM Chicago. You would always talk about how you have first-hand experience of gun violence and the crime situation in Illinois and you come up with something as dumb as "guns are banned in Chicago??"

It took me ONE WEEK living in the states to realize that firearm possession is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT of every American citizen. So how the fuq would they be able to ban firearms in Chicago?? ANY ban of firearm possession in the United States would be a constitutional infringement and therefore impossible to impose.

LOL when you're trying to portray a point of view, an opinion, a personal experience etc, it would be wise not to make up shit that people can so easily call you out on. LOL guns banned + America loll. Get outta town!

Here?s What Happened to Crime in Chicago After Illinois Finally Passed Concealed Carry Law | TheBlaze.com

parm104 09-01-2014 11:49 PM

Why are you showing me this? I thought you said firearms are banned in Chicago? This Mickey Mouse link from "The Blaze" just confirms what I said, they are NOT banned...

Lomac 09-03-2014 08:25 PM

Now, obviously I don't live in Chicago but I think it might be a little too early to attribute a decline in murders being the result of concealed carry. Didn't you guys just have the coldest winter in history?

Coldest December-March Period in Chicago History

I know crime certainly drops in the GVRD when temperatures drop; I'm sure it's the same down there. A plus B doesn't necessarily always equal C. Give it a year and if the trend continues, then I may concede the point. However, until then, I can't contribute one with another.





Man, just looking at the stats between Canada and USA is interesting.

Canada as a whole has 1.56 homicides per 100,000 people.
USA as a whole has 4.7 homicides per 100,000 people.

Chicago has 15.2 homicides per 100,000 people.
Surrey has 6.2 homicides per 100,000 people.
Vancouver has 1 homicide per 100,000 people.

I find it interesting because Surrey is the butt of all the crime jokes here and the only people who live there that carry firearms are the gang members, yet the homicide rate is less than half that of a city where any citizen can own a gun (not to mention the Castle Law) and now legally conceal carry.

Obviously there are a lot of different social and economic factors at play here and not all of those homicides were firearm related, but it's still intriguing to see the difference between two countries that are, for all intents and purposes, basically the same.

Don't get me wrong; I'm a fan of guns and I'll shoot 'em whenever I get the chance. However, one has to wonder if one country's way of thinking just might be saner and more logical than the other... AND that includes the adoption (and subsequent dropping) of Bill C-38.

Lomac 09-03-2014 10:05 PM

Upon further thought, I think a better statistic to follow would be robberies instead of homicides. Robberies are more likely to happen to the average citizen, rather than an attempt on your life (though I realize sometimes those two can often end up hand in hand). And with a robbery, you may be more prone to try and defend yourself with whatever you happen to have on hand.

Currently:

Chicago - 497.6 (per 100k)
Seattle - 226.7 (for comparison)
Surrey - 158.8
Vancouver - 148.6

Numbers in all four of these cities tend to fluctuate between each year, so a decline in one year doesn't necessarily mean anything as it can easily rise again in the next. However, the thing to watch for is a constant decline in Chicago's numbers to see if conceal carry will be an effective preventative measure.

The7even 09-08-2014 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Lomac (Post 8524773)
Obviously there are a lot of different social and economic factors at play here and not all of those homicides were firearm related, but it's still intriguing to see the difference between two countries that are, for all intents and purposes, basically the same.

Don't get me wrong; I'm a fan of guns and I'll shoot 'em whenever I get the chance. However, one has to wonder if one country's way of thinking just might be saner and more logical than the other... AND that includes the adoption (and subsequent dropping) of Bill C-38.

Canada is by far better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by parm104
Why are you showing me this? I thought you said firearms are banned in Chicago? This Mickey Mouse link from "The Blaze" just confirms what I said, they are NOT banned...

Because they were banned for a long, long time and during that time, Chicago had no murders and was safe.... oh, wait. No. The exact opposite is true.


Here's something funny.

Notice the wording in this article.

CAUGHT ON CAMERA: Three people violently attacked by large group of teenagers; video is going viral | FOX6Now.com

"Teenagers" Avoid using the word black.
"three-people" Avoid identifying the victim too.

When reverse happens, which by the way is rare as fuck..

White Nazi racists attack innocent 2 year old black Ivy League student.

Here's a challenge for you.. find me something reverse.

I'll try.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...+attack+blacks


:lol at results.

But please, do ignore what's happening, as long as you are politically correct, the world is a happy place, there is no evil.

Here,I'll find you the most recent few.
I challenge you to find me as many as easily.

Brooklyn group of black youths blocks white couple's car, bloody victims in racial attack: cops - NY Daily News

Gang of Black Teens Beats White Memphis Grocery Store Employee into Unconsciousness

DailyKenn.com/blog: Black mob of 30 teens attacks white motorists

Also very very recent.

Savage racially motivated mob attack caught on camera in Springfield, MO

Look at the piece of shit white male attacking the black mans feet with his face. Racist piece of shit, deserved what he got.

My favorite.
http://www.infowars.com/white-marine...evenge-attack/
But its okay, he wanted waffles, that terrible murderer!

http://toprightnews.com/?p=5394
Evil racist white "lifeguard" attacks innocent black teenagers fists with face and mouth. Racist deserved it because slavery existed.
Poor black teenager was going to go to college soon and become a doctor.

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/24...k-man-downtown
I like how you can't tell who the attackers are until they point out the slurs that were shouted.

If this was reversed, you know the headline and what it'd look like.

So please, keep pretending there isn't a problem.. because you can.

SMH, yolo.

Manic! 10-09-2014 03:31 AM

Off-duty St. Louis officer shoots, kills man who fired at him


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/us/st-louis-officer-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


(CNN) -- An off-duty St. Louis police officer shot and killed an 18-year-old Wednesday, firing his gun 17 times, authorities said.

Angry residents damaged several police cars in response, even though police say the man fired first.

The death comes on the heels of the Michael Brown shooting two months ago in the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson, and just ahead of a "Weekend of Resistance" in St. Louis, where activists will push for movement in the investigation into that case.
Tensions rise after police shooting
Off-duty officer shoots, kills man

Like Brown, the teen who was killed in Wednesday's shooting was black. The officers in both incidents are white, police said.

The difference: Brown was unarmed. In Wednesday's incident, the teen had a gun, said St. Louis police Chief Sam Dotson.

Tensions are already high in the community, and it's uncertain how the latest shooting will affect its mood.

"At the scene of yet another young man's death," tweeted St. Louis Alderman Antonio French. "This happens too often in our city. It's a crisis that we should all be concerned about."

An animated crowd quickly gathered late Wednesday near the site close to the Missouri Botanical Garden, chanting slogans as St. Louis police officers stood by.

"Hey, hey, ho, ho, these killer cops have got to go," the crowd chanted, along with, "Who do you serve? Who do you protect?"

The confrontations with police were intense and laced with profanity.

"That was somebody's baby," screamed one man, referring to the man who was killed.

"Think about your own child," pleaded another person in the crowd.

Despite the tensions, Dotson said no businesses were looted and no windows were smashed. He praised officers for showing a "tremendous amount of restraint" as members of the crowd confronted them face-to-face and damaged police cruisers.

Started with a pedestrian check

The officer, a six-year veteran of the force, was working a second job for a security company, one that was approved by his department. He had on his police uniform.

While on patrol, the officer saw three black males run away as he approached. He gave chase, because one of them was holding up his pants in a way that made the officer believe the teen may be carrying a gun, Dotson said.

The officer and one of the three tussled. The teen ran off, then turned around and fired at least three shots at the officer, Dotson said.

The officer returned fire, killing the teen.
Singing protest shocks crowd
Ferguson fights media over public records

Police recovered a 9 mm handgun. And Dotson said the teen was "no stranger to law enforcement." He didn't offer details, citing privacy concerns.

The two other males have not been apprehended.

'Weekend of Resistance'

In August, Brown, an African-American, was shot to death by a white police officer in Ferguson. The death of the unarmed 18-year-old fueled protests and sparked a nationwide debate on police use of force.

Protesters are planning a series of demonstrations, rallies and events in Ferguson and St. Louis this weekend to call for an end to racial profiling and what they call police violence.

This weekend's protests start with a rally and outside the office of the prosecutor investigating the Brown shooting.

Demonstrators will call for Bob McCulloch to step aside and allow a special prosecutor to be appointed.

Additional marches and demonstrations will mark the weekend, along with "civil disobedience actions around the St. Louis region," according to a statement from organizers that also says thousands of people from across the country are expected.

multicartual 10-15-2014 07:22 PM

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Manic! 11-24-2014 04:56 PM

Grand jury verdict about to be released in a few minutes. Prosecutor waited till 9 P.M, to release the verdict. If he is not charged I think Ferguson will explode. Large crowds already on the street.

kluk 11-24-2014 05:17 PM

Bloomberg TV: Business Live TV - Bloomberg

streaming live now

punkwax 11-24-2014 05:17 PM

Live on Global now.

murd0c 11-24-2014 05:24 PM

this sounds like he might get off

EmperorIS 11-24-2014 05:25 PM

Yea he's talking way too much for an indictment verdict.

Manic! 11-24-2014 05:25 PM

No charge. Things going t get crazy.

Ronin 11-24-2014 05:25 PM

These sound like excuses for not indicting.

EDIT: No charges against Wilson.

Livestream of the crowd just cut out?

EmperorIS 11-24-2014 05:26 PM

HE"S OFF THE HOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO

white people wins again!

Great68 11-24-2014 05:28 PM

Glad to hear that actual evidence and testimony were considered in reaching the correct verdict, and NOT public outrage.

Ronin 11-24-2014 05:30 PM

The stream of the city outside looks like there's a lot of people running around but no violence or police confrontation.

RecklessNS 11-24-2014 05:48 PM

People chanting "Can't stop the revolution", "Pigs gunna fry, cuz" and "They got snipers on the roof, bruh"

Yeezus.

Some old white lady is out there looking confused and shit.

"I wiff dah pepo"

Manic! 11-24-2014 06:26 PM

Tear gas is flying.

Hondaracer 11-24-2014 06:37 PM

lol fuck buddy on CNN almost got ht in the head wit ha can of tear gas

Manic! 11-24-2014 07:25 PM

A Little Caesars is burning to the ground the took out a Mcdicks too.

ForbiddenX 11-24-2014 07:29 PM

^And a Walgreens

https://vine.co/v/O1XrMg90ZAg

Hondaracer 11-24-2014 07:35 PM

Cosby using this distraction to go on a rape spree

kluk 11-24-2014 07:35 PM

i want some crazy bread now..


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