Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9152726)

A 2015 production tire will be less flexible, less grippy and less durable overall than say, a 2022 production tire, thanks to the rubber hardening and aging, and it is a noticeable difference.

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9152717)

Especially snow tire .. I mean show tire… I mean snow tire people

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9152736)

All else being equal, sure. But loads of people are rolling around on such janky crap that the tire compound being in sub-optimal condition due to age is the least of their concerns. A 2015 winter that actually has tread will do a lot better than the bald all seasons they currently have on. Every time I've sold a set of crappy tires that I price and advertise as rollers/the value is in the rims someone shows up on something way shittier and says they're going to be using them.

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9152727)

I had snow tires in the 9 yr DOT range and the rubber got really hard. So yah, about 7 yr life is a good principle +/- a yr or 2 at most.

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9152726)

I think that a winter tire is more likely to require 10/10ths performance than performance tires for a regular person, actually - especially for braking and cornering. Joe Schmoe is more likely to hit the traction limit of that winter tire braking down a steep icy hill vs Randy Racer with his PS4S on a nice summer day. That extra bit could be the difference between a controlled stop, or hitting another car.

A 2015 production tire will be less flexible, less grippy and less durable overall than say, a 2022 production tire, thanks to the rubber hardening and aging, and it is a noticeable difference.

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9152739)

I'm not casting any shade on you - I was just arguing with 68style regarding his opinion that "tire age doesn't matter".

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9152791)

I didn't say it doesn't matter, but it's not like they turn into pumpkins at 7 years on the dot... people act like they're suddenly no good... if an average tire is stored in garage in the PNW you should be able to get 10 years out of it no problem.

I happen to know of at least 1 manufacturer that tells its sales reps here that they hve no issue with honouring full warranty even on tires that have sat 2-3 years prior to sale.

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9152791)

I happen to know of at least 1 manufacturer that tells its sales reps here that they hve no issue with honouring full warranty even on tires that have sat 2-3 years prior to sale.

Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9153322)

im a little late to the game so things are pretty slim pickings for the x5

i guess i either compromise and go with some all seasons or find something smaller on fbm

Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9153694)

yup, name dropped u.... got quoted...
3700+ tax for a set of 20s g8x reps with tpms and michelin pilot alpin 5. ill get back to him once a get a few more quotes.

Originally Posted by dark0821 (Post 9153771)

dammmnnnnnn, facebook marketplace not an option?

But I was never in the 20s game lolol, that sounds reasonable but also not very affordable at the same time~

Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 9153777)

I looked for X3M spec for a friend a few weeks ago. Slim pickings for the options, at the time at least. Pirelli winters aren't the best, but are common for these M SUVs/P SUVs for some reason.

Idk if he wants to go through the hassle of figuring out wheel spec etc.

Agreed its not very affordable but reasonable, but you can always ask them to price in winter Chinas instead.

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9153803)

You might laugh at me or think I'm being ridiculous, but have you tried getting a quote from Costco?

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9153814)

Here's what the big Toronto winter tire shop is doing:

http://simplytire.com/winter/BMW.pdf