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Originally Posted by Zedbra
(Post 9003499)
Do you ever stud any of the tires? I had a set of Hankook studded snow tires and they were the best winter tires I have run, especially on hardpacked snow over the Coq and on ice. But the sound of studs are annoying for the 99% of the time you don't need them.
I've been considering those Cooper STTs as my next set for my truck, but mostly for summer/4x4ing/hunting tires. I run dedicated snow tires on all vehicles (currently Toyos on the truck and car)
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Exactly once. I studded a set of K02's, I was driving the coq basically every weekend at that time, and it was the dead of winter. The truck rode like it was on rails. It wasn't even a question of if I have traction, even on that typical half packed snow/ice, half exposed pavement the coq often has during winter my traction was basically endless.
One of my coworkers, who doesn't like driving in the snow, drove my truck a few times, and despite being super cautious she seemed to learn the truck was going to stay true and go where she points it pretty quick, and then she got comfortable and was able to drive in pretty shitty conditions with relative ease.
The issue with studding is the road noise, once you get back to the coast it's ridiculous and totally not needed. Even if you remain in a climate like the yukon where it's frozen for months on end, the general person should be able to use regular good winter tires just as reliably as studded tires.
This might sound terrible, but the main draw for me in studding tires for that set was being able to drive quickly. When you are driving the coq to get home every weekend, being stuck going slow really sucks. This was a way I could reliably be able to increase my speed 20+km/h with really zero risk. I know that might sound dangerous, but you need to understand, I was doing this trip typically at very off hours, usually monday's at 2-3am, and fridays going home at 10pm or later, so traffic was minimal. I'm not out here purposefully risking other road users lives just to get home 20 minutes faster.
I will say, as soon as the weather got a bit warmer, that noise of the studs flying off the tires and hitting the truck body, or fender wells was super irritating as well. If you own your truck, I would cringe big time.
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Originally Posted by 320icar
(Post 9003500)
The benefit of tires like the ko2 or the new Pirelli scorpion something something is that they’re aggressive off-road tires with a winter rating, so you can run them all year. If you stud them, then it defeats the purpose.
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I'd agree with this. I dont like to be switching tires for seasons. The other thing with studs, is even places like PG, or kamloops go through warm spells throughout the winter sometimes these can last weeks. You are going to be destroying studs rolling on them at 10 or 15 degrees on dry roads. Like I'm talking a few hundred km, and you will have ripped half of them out.
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero
(Post 9003477)
did you ever give falken wildpeaks a go? you should help review the Toyo At3 as well
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Third party information here as I have not ever run them, but my tire guru said he wouldn't sell me a set. If I was running a half ton maybe, but not for a diesel 1 ton, especially when I often pulling fairly large trailers. They are essentially duratracs, they are just slightly less beefy. You can tell this if you pick up a duratrac and wildpeak at the same time, the duratrac is noticeably heavier. I am told most of this weight comes in the sidewall of the duratrac, which is what makes that tire so good at resisting punctures and slashes (lost of loose sharp shale on BC's FSR's, so this is a huge consideration for my use case). The other thing that was mentioned to me was bad experience with how they wear, leading to them needing to be much quicker than they should be.
The main draw of the wildpeaks is they are cheap, yet they still look aggressive for an AT. I'm sure it's fine for your average SUV or Jeep, but for heavier vehicles I have been swayed away.
For anyone in an SUV, or lighter truck, I always am looking to see what heavier vehicles are using. Use cases considered, if a tire is working well under a 8000 or 10000lb truck, then you can bet your ass it's going to work well under your 4-5000lb SUV.
