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View Poll Results: It's Election Day!
Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
Didn't Vote (BOO) 18 4.59%
Couldn't Vote for a Legit Reason 13 3.32%
Voters: 392. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-19-2015, 11:27 AM   #601
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:30 AM   #602
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Just to clarify, the Conservative party's fiscal record is quite poor. I think this article lays it out well:

No matter how you add it up, Harper?s fiscal record is a catastrophe

The below link is also useful. The Conservatives inherited a surplus of $13.8b when they took over in 2006. Since then, they have racked up approximately $160b in deficits cumulatively.

http://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/canada-deficit/

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IMO, this election has revealed a major issue with Canadian society. If I had to summarize it in a word, it would be "perspective".

If there is really only one thing that is certain, what we expect the world to be in 10 years, will almost certainly be incorrect. Canadians don't seem to realize this.

Roach you made reference to Harpers poor economic track record, well unless there is a parallel universe that was ruled by Jack Layton or some other leader we really have no reasonable way to judge Mr. Harpers performance. No other leader will ever experience an identical, or potentially even comparable set of circumstances to another leader, the world changes far to fast. Gov spending will always be going up simply with respect to the steadily increasing population, the hope is that tax revenues will be greater than the draw.

The world is changing, our economic and social policies need to change as well. People criticize certain aspects of government spending, one obvious example would be hospital ER wait times. Perhaps we have already hit the high water mark, perhaps the additional spending promised by certain parties will not be sufficient to even maintain the status quo as our population demographics change and ER wait times will become days instead of hours etc.

Canada is not going to change for the better over the next 20-40 years IMO, the quality of life we have become accustomed too is very expensive, and this is the quality of life we are expected to provide for 1/3 of the Canadian population that will be sucking social services dry into their twilight years. There will soon be 2.5 tax payers for ever retiree, there used 10 tax payers per retiree in the 50's.

North Americans had their chance, we pissed it away on UAW workers making 80/HR to place an ashtray in a cup holder. The rest of the world caught up, I suspect there will come a time in the not too distant future where we are the ones playing catch up... the only reason we aren't there now is because we have a lot of resources to exploit, though people seem less and less interested in those resources lately.

Mehh it's all a matter of opinion, but I believe that our issues as a country extend well beyond anything the Gov. can fix, it's an issue with entitlement, attitude, work ethic, and complacency. Those looking to the gov. to solve their personal problems will one day find themselves out in the cold when the long term economic reality hits the wall.

Canada is economic pimple on earths face. The external forces acting inward are far greater than he internal forces acting outward.

I realize this is a disheveled rant, maybe if I had 6 months to spare I would intelligently prepare the words and write a book.. right now I'm too busy playing GTA5 online.

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BTW if you are working during voting hours, you are entitled to a paid 3 hour break to go vote:

Election 2015: Workers guaranteed 3 hours to vote in Canada - British Columbia - CBC News
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^^ not quite. If you work 9-5, you are not entitled for any break, since you have 3 hours uninterrupted already (5-8) to vote
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voting stations close at 7? So 5-7 is only 2 hrs, they need to let you off early
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In BC I believe most if not all polling stations are 7am to 7pm.

So they need to either let you come in at 10, or leave at 4.
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my bad -- yeah we are only up to 7pm not 8pm. most people will be able to get at least 1 hour off of work!
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Reports are coming in from across Canada of voters receiving pre-marked ballots favouring Conservative and Green candidates. It could be a printing error that only coincidentally favours the Conservatives and the party that is not in contention, but the given the Cons history of corruption and election fraud, I am concerned. If you receive a ballot like this be sure to request a new one.

Reddit thread documenting the issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comm...ada_premarked/.
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In this current global economic situation, shouldn't the fiscal aspect of government trump all?

I'm not convinced now is the time for major fiscal change, despite how terrible a leader the majority feel Harper is.
Fiscal policy is one of the worst things about Harper, but he seems to have successfully pulled the wool over everyone's eyes
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If your getting off work early go Vote first, then go drink a beer, or whatever your leisure pleasure. Most importantly Vote, the polls close at 7 P.M.
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Results from the East are beginning to trickle in. Libs secured 5 seats in Newfieland.
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Results from the East are beginning to trickle in. Libs secured 5 seats in Newfieland.
They're in the lead in (now 6) ridings, but that's only counting a handful of ballot boxes in each riding.

Of course, Atlantic Canada is expected to be heavily dominated by the Liberals.
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So apparently there is also a Rhinoceros Party that is actually on the ballots:

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27 Lib, 2 Con, 1 NDP. That's a good start.
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Liberals crushing it in Atlantic Canada.
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30-1-1 now
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Thats not a shock at all, with all the cuts they have been making in Atlantic Canada especially with the coast guard they Cons don't have a chance there.
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Live from the CBC Canada Election 2015 Live Results CBC

What I don't get is how it'll show a party as "elected" for a riding, and then change a few minutes later. Surely it shouldn't say they won that riding until they have actually won it.
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Now a clean sweep of Atlantic Canada so far. A couple of close ridings, so maybe not a complete sweep when it's all said and done, but looks like the Liberals picked up quite a few extra seats over the forecasts.
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