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View Poll Results: It's Election Day!
Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
Didn't Vote (BOO) 18 4.59%
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Old 10-16-2015, 09:29 PM   #526
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My Dad told me this story about a Liberal campaign staff calling him at his home number. FYI, the incumbent MP in his riding is Jenny Kwan.

Liberal staff: "Hello sir, this is a courtesy call to ask whether you decided to vote the Liberal party. Please vote for Edward Wong."

Dad: "Uh, we are still undecided.".

Liberal staff: "Can we count on your vote for Edward Wong on October 19th?"

Dad: Who?? Edward Wong? Who the heck is Edward Wong?!?!?"
. Dad tells the guy that he's busy, and hangs up the phone. My Dad is losing his hearing in his senior years now so he yells "Who the heck is Edward Wong????"


I guess Mom and Dad are not voting for the Liberals.
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What a stupid way to campaign. When has ANYONE reacted favourably to being telemarketed to?
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Viral letter to harper

Open Letter to Stephen Harper:

Dear Mr. Harper,

I live in BC with my husband and two little girls. I grew up in Calgary and have many friends and family members there. I’m white and in my early 40s. One of us is a stay at home parent, so we benefit 100% from the direct deposits in lieu of a National Childcare Program. We also benefit 100% from income splitting. And we can afford to take advantage of the increased allowance in our TFSAs.

In other words, we’re the picture of the family who benefits the most from your economic policies.

But we’re not voting Conservative on October 19th.

You see, you’ve misjudged us. We enjoy our standard of living, we work hard for it but it’s not the only thing that matters to us.

You assume we don’t care about our First Nations neighbours, or Canadians trying to bring their family members here from war torn countries. That we don’t care about less fortunate Canadians, our veterans, or scientists. You think we don’t mind that to save a few bucks and balance the books we axed the census, dumped decades of research from our libraries, cut funding to CBC, under-spent our budgets in important departments and closed coast guard stations. You figure we no longer want our lakes and rivers protected and that we don’t understand that climate change is a far greater risk to our way of life than Barbaric Cultural Practices.

You’ve underestimated us.

On October 19, we’re not voting for our bank balance. We’re voting for change because we want the caring Canada of our youth back. The Canada that supported our single mothers that gave us the opportunity to succeed in the first place.

Mary Cleaver

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decently written op ed that gets her point across, so I went and looked her up and was kind of disappointed. her fb page clearly shows she is a standard sjw-anti-harper-everything fb/twitter/tumblr/social media whore.
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Viral letter to harper

Open Letter to Stephen Harper:

Dear Mr. Harper,

I live in BC with my husband and two little girls. I grew up in Calgary and have many friends and family members there. I’m white and in my early 40s. One of us is a stay at home parent, so we benefit 100% from the direct deposits in lieu of a National Childcare Program. We also benefit 100% from income splitting. And we can afford to take advantage of the increased allowance in our TFSAs.

In other words, we’re the picture of the family who benefits the most from your economic policies.

But we’re not voting Conservative on October 19th.

You see, you’ve misjudged us. We enjoy our standard of living, we work hard for it but it’s not the only thing that matters to us.

You assume we don’t care about our First Nations neighbours, or Canadians trying to bring their family members here from war torn countries. That we don’t care about less fortunate Canadians, our veterans, or scientists. You think we don’t mind that to save a few bucks and balance the books we axed the census, dumped decades of research from our libraries, cut funding to CBC, under-spent our budgets in important departments and closed coast guard stations. You figure we no longer want our lakes and rivers protected and that we don’t understand that climate change is a far greater risk to our way of life than Barbaric Cultural Practices.

You’ve underestimated us.

On October 19, we’re not voting for our bank balance. We’re voting for change because we want the caring Canada of our youth back. The Canada that supported our single mothers that gave us the opportunity to succeed in the first place.

Mary Cleaver

Vancouver woman's letter to Stephen Harper goes viral - NEWS 1130
Just like to mention you can still have say your family come just apply for super visa. Is good for 10 years. The only difference between the super visa and granting immigrations status is that with super visa they can't use benfits that only Canadian citizen gets. I don't see any issue with this why should we allow anyone to immigrate and use our benfits when they haven't pay a penny into our tax system. Super Visa allow family members to come and visit you anytime they like but they can't use any benfits.
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Just like to mention you can still have say your family come just apply for super visa. Is good for 10 years. The only difference between the super visa and granting immigrations status is that with super visa they can't use benfits that only Canadian citizen gets. I don't see any issue with this why should we allow anyone to immigrate and use our benfits when they haven't pay a penny into our tax system. Super Visa allow family members to come and visit you anytime they like but they can't use any benfits.
You mean like people who move from Ontario to B.C. to retire?
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Conservatives bought front page ads across Canada, on presumably all PostMedia papers



Using Elections Canada's format, making it look somewhat official. On the front page, making it look extremely important. Of course we know better, but this kind of scare tactic marketing can be pretty effective with a certain type of person...
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quick question -- does anyone here read a physical newspaper anymore? Just wondering if anyone under the age of 70 still does or not.

I used to read them all the time, but I don't think I've picked one up in the past 5 years ...
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quick question -- does anyone here read a physical newspaper anymore? Just wondering if anyone under the age of 70 still does or not.

I used to read them all the time, but I don't think I've picked one up in the past 5 years ...

I only read the Metro newspaper if it has interesting articles.

Those Conservatives are using their scare tactics again in order to get people to vote for them.

Do they think Canadians are stupid?? Seriously? It's time for change!!
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I would hold that thought until after the election.................

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Do they think Canadians are stupid?? Seriously?
Thats the thing.....so many are.
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My Dad told me this story about a Liberal campaign staff calling him at his home number. FYI, the incumbent MP in his riding is Jenny Kwan.

Liberal staff: "Hello sir, this is a courtesy call to ask whether you decided to vote the Liberal party. Please vote for Edward Wong."

Dad: "Uh, we are still undecided.".

Liberal staff: "Can we count on your vote for Edward Wong on October 19th?"

Dad: Who?? Edward Wong? Who the heck is Edward Wong?!?!?"
. Dad tells the guy that he's busy, and hangs up the phone. My Dad is losing his hearing in his senior years now so he yells "Who the heck is Edward Wong????"


I guess Mom and Dad are not voting for the Liberals.
Sounds like the Liberal staffer was having problems hearing. Your Dad already said he was undecided.
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How accurate is that chart? The idea of a federal minimum wage is something I'd expect from the Greens, but I'd expect a bit less stupidity from the NDP.
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How accurate is that chart? The idea of a federal minimum wage is something I'd expect from the Greens, but I'd expect a bit less stupidity from the NDP.
The "Federal Minimum Wage" only applies to a certain subset of jobs that are regulated by the federal government IIRC
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Lol @ all the events harper is doing with Rob Ford.
People are literally willing to take voting advice from a fucking morbidly obese crackhead.
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Raising tax rates to 33% for people making 200+ is fucked up. For the most part people within that bracket are probably amongst the hardest working/most stimulating of the Canadian work force.

And again, no definition for "the middle class" so is the middle class anyone under the 200 but above the 20k no tax bracket? :/
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Raising tax rates to 33% for people making 200+ is fucked up. For the most part people within that bracket are probably amongst the hardest working/most stimulating of the Canadian work force.

And again, no definition for "the middle class" so is the middle class anyone under the 200 but above the 20k no tax bracket? :/
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15% on the first $44,701 of taxable income, +
22% on the next $44,700 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $44,701 up to $89,401), +
26% on the next $49,185 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $89,401 up to $138,586), +
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We will give middle class Canadians a tax break, by making taxes more fair.

When middle class Canadians have more money in their pockets to save, invest, and grow the economy, we all benefit.

We will cut the middle income tax bracket to 20.5 percent from 22 percent - a seven percent reduction. Canadians with taxable annual income between
$44,700 and $89,401 will see their income tax rate fall.

This tax relief is worth up to $670 per person, per year – or $1,340 for a two-income household.

To pay for this tax cut, we will ask the wealthiest one percent of Canadians to give a little more. We will introduce a new tax bracket of 33 percent for individuals earning more than $200,000 each year.
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15% on the first $44,701 of taxable income, +
20.5% on the next $44,700 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $44,701 up to $89,401), +
26% on the next $49,185 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $89,401 up to $138,586), +
29% on the next $61,414 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $138,586 up to $200,000), +
33% of taxable income over $200,000
Google Liberal platform. Doesn't sound like you've read it ... or know how the Canadian tax structure works now.

It's a tax break for anyone making between $45k and $217k.

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Ditto.
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George bush got elected twice. Never underestimated the stupidity of a general population.
To be fair, that's because of the electoral college.

Al Gore won the popular vote but because of the electoral college, lost the election.
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It was almost 50-50 regardless. Amazing that after the late-90s, when everything was going America's way, roughly half the voting population wanted to change directions.
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Let's talk about Stephen, shall we?

- Tried to allegedly bribe a standing MP who was dying (Chuck Cadman) with a million dollar life insurance policy (Harper classified this as "replacing financial considerations lost during a possible election") to try to get Cadman to vote with the Conservatives (after they had turfed him out of the party previously, and Cadman was re-elected as an independent, by the way). Harper was cleared by the RCMP, but as this is noted on his Wikipedia page, it is noted here.

- Prorogued Parliament to avoid a no-confidence vote from other MP's, twice (2008 and 2010), with many saying that he did it to avoid democracy and the Afghan detainee inquiry.

- Appointed a number of sitting Senators who are now at the heart of the Senate spending scandal (Boisvenu, Duffy, Wallin, among others)

- Was found to be in contempt of Parliament in 2011

- Scrapped the long-gun Registry in its entirety, despite pleas for law enforcement for the data contained therein.

- Scrapped the long-form census in 2011, citing privacy reasons.

- The Robocall scandal that kept people in rural areas from exercising their right to vote.

- Gutted research funding and has silenced Canadian researchers about their research entirely (including to other media, other researchers, and to the public) by having them followed and threatened.

- Gutted environmental laws and policies and cut the budget at Environment Canada, especially being very vicious towards anything relating to climate change.

- Exercises a iron-fist like grip over the media and the existing Freedom of Information Act.

- Helped create, support, and enact numerous bills in parliament that have created not only a second-class citizenship (Bill C-24), but destroyed the very fabric of what makes Canada great (Bill C-51).

- Has not instructed the CBSA to stand down in the case of Jose Figueroa and countless other refugees who fled war-torn countries for a better life in Canada only to be denied and called terrorists when there is nothing in their history to indicate that they participated in activities of terrorism at all.

- In 2006, Harper violated the spending limit during the election.

- Turned a $16 billion surplus into a $56 billion dollar deficit under his leadership.

- Has cut funding for women's and minority groups by 40%, effectively keeping them from having a legal voice and also causing them to shut down 12 out of 16 offices.

- His Economic Action Plan has benefitted only the richest 1% in Canada.

- Weakened food regulations so that more residue from harmful chemicals can be left on your food.

- Fires whistleblowers for alerting the public about regulation changes or unsafe nuclear reactors.

- Lied about the actual cost of purchasing 65 stealth fighter jets in Parliament.

- Refused to sign the UN declaration of clean water as a Human Right.

- Did not cut $1.4 billion in tax breaks that he gave to oil companies, yet cut $1.2 billion from the establishment of National Childcare.

- Cancelled the Kelowna accord, meant to help First Nations peoples and improve their health and education with almost $5 billion in funding.

- Destroyed Canada's international reputation as peacekeepers, when it was made public that Afghan detainees were handed over most likely to be tortured.

- Wants to enact mass scale internet surveillance and has tried to do so (and been defeated) 4 times.

- Increases spending on prisons, and decreases funding for rehab programs.

- Renamed the Government of Canada to the Harper Government in 2010.

There are many more, but I think this is enough to show our soon to be former Prime Minister to the door.

The people of Canada will soon speak, Mr. Harper, and they will ultimately say that it's time for you to go.
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