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View Poll Results: It's Election Day!
Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:03 PM   #151
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One thing I could see costing the Cons the election - their focus on security and terrorism.

Someone needs to tell Harper to stop pushing something that just ins't at the forefront of concern for most voters, I would say his latest speech is a step in the wrong direction.

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You were so analytical about Canada's banking and money system...I would have liked to read your explanation with my question... but hey, you made my sig for posting propaganda on RS
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I got mostly Liberal. Didn't know how to answer questions about hijabs and whatever. There are a few questions where I was like...who cares? Is that really an election issue? Aboriginal issues are also not very high on my list of priorities. Not really bothering to read anyone's stance on that as it wouldn't change the way I vote.

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Imagine getting drunk with the bigot in your avatar and secretly recording him talk about aboriginal issue... that would be half a million dollar TMZ tape right there!
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I could explain most of it yes, but that would require me to invest my time, and I'm already out of fucks in this election thread lol

If the libs and NDP could provide a bit more depth into how the plan to fund all their grand expenditures perhaps they could swing me over to vote for the dark side.
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Sorry, that long post of yours was so all full of propaganda that I couldnt image for you to explain the real truth.

Since the dollar rules the world... here is a hint.
1781 how did the US redeem its worthless currency...
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My areas of concern are the environment, health care, and finances.

My core concern, though, is finances; and in that, I cannot back environmental and health care expenditures that are not clearly financially feasible. I find that creates a precarious position for myself because none of the parties strike me as of that mindset.

Harper and the Cons are completely comfortable with the tremendous cost of mandatory minimum sentences, and the cost overruns of the F35 project, and I'm certain they would feel it fit to throw $100b at another war in the Middle East were one to arise. So, aren't they willing to spend on whatever their social and defence policy considers important?

What I'd really like to see is a party that is willing to say something like, "we're going to legalize and tax the shit out of marijuana, and with the est. $700m (a completely arbitrary number) in revenue that will generate, we're going to extend universal health care to cover dental care for children."
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I could explain most of it yes, but that would require me to invest my time, and I'm already out of fucks in this election thread lol

If the libs and NDP could provide a bit more depth into how the plan to fund all their grand expenditures perhaps they could swing me over to vote for the dark side.
Serious question, aren't the Cons military plans also grand expenditures? I'll admit I haven't had a chance to dig into the actual proposed costs of each parties plans but to me I'd rather be blowing money on projects that actually help our citizens instead of on some fearmongering bullshit that doesn't actually protect anyone.
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I could explain most of it yes, but that would require me to invest my time, and I'm already out of fucks in this election thread lol

If the libs and NDP could provide a bit more depth into how the plan to fund all their grand expenditures perhaps they could swing me over to vote for the dark side.
They don't. That's the whole deal with Libs and NDP is all they talk about is spendings but never talk about how they will come up with the money.

Basically they have no plans to get the money so in the end they will either increase tax or borrow more.
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I haven't researched into Canada's practices, but the way I see it, the Army in the US (front line fodder) is basically their version of welfare-to-work program.

If you look at it that way, the people who spend the most on the military are actually the most socialist party out there.
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If I ever had drinks with Jeremy Clarkson, I'm pretty sure Aboriginal issues would be the last goddamn thing we would ever talk about. Actually, I'm rather sure Aboriginal issues are the last thing I'd talk to...anyone...about.

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The problem with isidewith or even votecompass (to a certain extent, it used to be an academic project) is the are all black box operation we don't really know what's going on... we don't know how much the weigh on questions etc. Use them as a guide but nothing absolute!

Also since anyone can geolocate using your browser IP address, they also didn't really say besides ads who else get the data... I won't put in your absolute views into these things.
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The problem with isidewith or even votecompass (to a certain extent, it used to be an academic project) is the are all black box operation we don't really know what's going on... we don't know how much the weigh on questions etc. Use them as a guide but nothing absolute!

Also since anyone can geolocate using your browser IP address, they also didn't really say besides ads who else get the data... I won't put in your absolute views into these things.
Agreed. It also only highlights certain stances by the parties/candidates.

I did the survey for the Democratic Presidential Nominee between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. I noticed a lot of the questions inquired by the survey did not touch on the key points by both Candidates. I suspect it is also this generalized with the Canadian Federal Elections.
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Tories announced $14-billion in spending in six weeks before election call, 670 announcements | hilltimes.com

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Sounds like cons hemorrhaging money to try and stave off ugly unemployment numbers before the election lol.

As a general comment, how insane would it be for a major corporation to shuffle it's entire management team every four years?

It doesn't matter who gets in, 4 years is not enough time to un-fuck issues created by the last ruling party and implement measures to show positive change. Anyone who gets in after the cons will most likely look like failures regardless of how well they actually did... unless they get at least 2, more like 3 terms in office.

I think our democratic system could use some adjustments :s
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I got 72% Liberal, and 70% NDP. Bill C-51 is a deal breaker for me. Voting for latter.
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Sounds like cons hemorrhaging money to try and stave off ugly unemployment numbers before the election lol.

As a general comment, how insane would it be for a major corporation to shuffle it's entire management team every four years?

It doesn't matter who gets in, 4 years is not enough time to un-fuck issues created by the last ruling party and implement measures to show positive change. Anyone who gets in after the cons will most likely look like failures regardless of how well they actually did... unless they get at least 2, more like 3 terms in office.

I think our democratic system could use some adjustments :s
Although I understand that the House of Commons probably involves quite a bit of political posturing, I wonder if the various committees are better at getting things done behind closed doors.
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It doesn't matter who gets in, 4 years is not enough time to un-fuck issues created by the last ruling party and implement measures to show positive change. Anyone who gets in after the cons will most likely look like failures regardless of how well they actually did... unless they get at least 2, more like 3 terms in office.

I think our democratic system could use some adjustments :s
It's a double-edged sword, you want to allow the ones doing good work time to do so, but on the flip side you're allowing the same amount of time to someone who could be royally fucking us over. It's a careful balance.
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I actually thought I'd have a higher conservative rating than that, considering I am technically considered a high income earner.

I guess I'm just not a selfish prick that doesn't mind being taxed a bit more if it benefits others in the country.
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