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Liberal 226 57.65%
NDP 57 14.54%
Green 7 1.79%
Conservative 66 16.84%
Other to support fringe beliefs 2 0.51%
Spoiled/Throwaway ballot 3 0.77%
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:10 PM   #251
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LOL heard an ad on the radio this morning from the Conservatives basically saying "Remember the BC NDP from back in the day? Yeah...Mulcair is like that. Can't be trusted!"

Geez...why does every ad have to be a shit throwing contest? I'd love to see a politician just talk straight up about the issues and not pander to the lowest common denominator of idiots that just want to vote based on hair.
I wish they'd just ban negative ads/references to other parties in political ads.

Tell me what you're going to do, don't tell me what the other guys are going to do.
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Honestly, my vote would go to whomever had the strongest stance on combating foreign investment and levelling the playing field (real estate-wise) for Canadian citizens. As well as taking a tougher stance on immigration fraud, PR residency requirements, and in general creating tougher borders.

Call it small-minded but I'm able to pay for school without taking on debt and/or borrowing from the bank of Mom & Dad, I am studying and doing a co-op in a field that is 90% likely to get me a good job after graduation, and the only real "struggle" I think I will face is buying a house in today's inflated market.

But it's hard to choose as they all seem pretty wishy-washy with their "promises" and policies. Harper says if he is re-elected, he will look into whether Canadians are being held at a disadvantage in the real estate market. My question is, why didn't he do this for the last 7 years....? If he started taking a firm stance on foreign investment back in 2006, a lot of the problems we face in Vancouver, Toronto, et al., would be nonexistent. Then there's the matter of the immigrant investor program, which to me was a huge fucking joke...
I will make the assumption that you, like many others, have never really considered the macro economic impact of the housing market that we have seen over the last ten years.

The reality is this, if the gov did not fan the RE flames for the last decade, we would likely have experienced an extended period of limited growth or potentially even recession. Finance, real estate, and construction together make up nearly 25% of our GDP... if there was no housing bubble, what would be filling the void?

By "increasing the effectiveness" of the CMHC (40 year + Zero down mortgages) and cutting the overnight lending rate the Gov. made home ownership much more affordable (on a monthly payment basis anyway lol). The banks could now approve mortgages for people they would not have traditionally approved mortgages for as CMHC protects them from any significant financial losses. What did this do? Well obviously it got builders slapping houses/condos together at an alarming rate, this created thousands of jobs, consumed massive amount of raw materials, and supported a huge manufacturing base.

The gov knows that if mortgage rates were to revert to the mean tmw there would be a lot of people in deep shit, luckily Canada can keep rates depressed for many years to come as our debt to GDP ratio is the best of any G7 country which provides a financial insulation of sorts for the country. (Lower debt to GDP means you can borrow at a lower costs, less risk = lower bond yields)

It's not that the Gov doesn't realize what's going on, they facilitated it, and until some other economic segment can pick up the slack, don't expect any serious regulation to come in that would put downward pressure on home prices.

So what's it all mean, right now homebuyers are like "damn I don't make enough money"... if the housing bubble never happened it would probably be more like "damn I don't have a job".

It's a brief and ugly explanation... but it's all there.

Edit: BTW Manic, you know that harperman news about guy getting put on leave is almost a month old now right?
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I've voted Green in every election in which I've been eligible but I have a Progressive Canadian Party (the closest successor to the Progressive Conservative Party) candidate running in my riding this time, and if I choose to not vote strategically, they may be my choice.

It would be great to see the return of a party with a center-right stance on economic issues and a center, or even a center-left, stance on social issues. I know that I'm far from alone in holding that opinion.
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Edit: BTW Manic, you know that harperman news about guy getting put on leave is almost a month old now right?
Yes I know that but not everyone follows politics and I bet a number of people in this thread did not know that. Plus it answers some of PeanutButter's question"
Also, what are the major Harper screw ups?" in a song format
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This link, so far, is the most comprehensive list of Conservative party abuses while in power. It's a long read, but worth reviewing prior to voting to determine if these actions are acceptable to you or not:

Harper, Serial Abuser of Power: The Evidence Compiled | The Tyee

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Honestly, my vote would go to whomever had the strongest stance on combating foreign investment and levelling the playing field (real estate-wise) for Canadian citizens. As well as taking a tougher stance on immigration fraud, PR residency requirements, and in general creating tougher borders.

Call it small-minded but I'm able to pay for school without taking on debt and/or borrowing from the bank of Mom & Dad, I am studying and doing a co-op in a field that is 90% likely to get me a good job after graduation, and the only real "struggle" I think I will face is buying a house in today's inflated market.

But it's hard to choose as they all seem pretty wishy-washy with their "promises" and policies. Harper says if he is re-elected, he will look into whether Canadians are being held at a disadvantage in the real estate market. My question is, why didn't he do this for the last 7 years....? If he started taking a firm stance on foreign investment back in 2006, a lot of the problems we face in Vancouver, Toronto, et al., would be nonexistent. Then there's the matter of the immigrant investor program, which to me was a huge fucking joke...
That's what I was hoping for as well, but it doesn't seem like any of the parties are really going to put much effort into this issue.
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This link, so far, is the most comprehensive list of Conservative party abuses while in power. It's a long read, but worth reviewing prior to voting to determine if these actions are acceptable to you or not:

Harper, Serial Abuser of Power: The Evidence Compiled | The Tyee

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Honestly, my vote would go to whomever had the strongest stance on combating foreign investment and levelling the playing field (real estate-wise) for Canadian citizens. As well as taking a tougher stance on immigration fraud, PR residency requirements, and in general creating tougher borders.

Call it small-minded but I'm able to pay for school without taking on debt and/or borrowing from the bank of Mom & Dad, I am studying and doing a co-op in a field that is 90% likely to get me a good job after graduation, and the only real "struggle" I think I will face is buying a house in today's inflated market.

But it's hard to choose as they all seem pretty wishy-washy with their "promises" and policies. Harper says if he is re-elected, he will look into whether Canadians are being held at a disadvantage in the real estate market. My question is, why didn't he do this for the last 7 years....? If he started taking a firm stance on foreign investment back in 2006, a lot of the problems we face in Vancouver, Toronto, et al., would be nonexistent. Then there's the matter of the immigrant investor program, which to me was a huge fucking joke...
Not going to happen. As much as I love to see it happen. Like some countries foreign foreign investors can only buy real estate in certain area or they can't own at all so local is still able to afford a place. But we won't coz our gov like selling Canada away. Soon we will change to Canada repulic of China.......
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I found this quite useful and interesting.

https://votecompass.cbc.ca/
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Just like the last election cons are in hiding again. A number of con candidates have missed debates because harper knows if they speak they will put there foot in there mouth.

and this:



Star Tory candidate denies fear mongering in B.C. flyer controversy - The Globe and Mail

I wonder how many people in Surrey have died by the hands of ISIS vs the number shot in drug wars.
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Granted it's a stupid flyer, but the drug war shootings have not really taken place in South Surrey- White Rock so both points are as irrelevant.

They just had that one incident where the cops shot a "suicidal" person outside the police station.

The yuppies and older fairly-affluent, mostly white residents in her riding are likely much more concerned about 'whacky muslim-extremist invaders' than drug dealers
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did everyone already got something in the mail from elections canada?
I've always gotten it in the past and i haven't moved....although usually for municipal and possibly provincial...not sure about federal
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did everyone already got something in the mail from elections canada?
I've always gotten it in the past and i haven't moved....although usually for municipal and possibly provincial...not sure about federal
Nothing yet but it's an extra long election.
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harper has changed the law so there will be no election day black out. We will know who has won out east as it happens.

Also if you want to get rid of harper check out Vote Together
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got my election card ... they moved my voting location... instead of being at a school 2 blocks away its not at a school 10 blocks away..
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got my election card ... they moved my voting location... instead of being at a school 2 blocks away its not at a school 10 blocks away..
So instead of driving 2 blocks, you are going to drive 10 blocks now?

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harper has changed the law so there will be no election day black out. We will know who has won out east as it happens.

Also if you want to get rid of harper check out Vote Together
FINALLY no blackout. so retarded in this day and age that we had the blackout for so long.
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Definitely won't vote for Harper. He closed the coast guard base in Kits and zero fucks were given in the face of BC voters. Not sure about NDP. But if I vote Liberal, that means I have to vote for that useless bum Hedy Fry. We are better off voting for sideshow bob.
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Is Harper really the bad guy here when every political thing in this country is fixed? Sheeple on.
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Definitely won't vote for Harper. He closed the coast guard base in Kits and zero fucks were given in the face of BC voters. Not sure about NDP. But if I vote Liberal, that means I have to vote for that useless bum Hedy Fry. We are better off voting for sideshow bob.
Hedy Fry... good gods, I forgot about her. I won a government award back in 2001 for a stop-motion anti-racism film. Because she was the Secretary of State of Multiculturalism at the time, she was among those who presented it. Even up on stage, you could just see her oozing her useless charm. This was also shortly before she said crosses were being burnt in Prince George by the KKK (never happened).
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I so wish we were able to vote for the person in our riding and who we want for PM separately..
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I have a few questions for the local con but his 4 meet and greats are all during the day when people are working. Guess I am going to have to take some time off work to see him.
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