Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9160921)

Are we trying to bankrupt roastpuff?

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9160918)

If you are looking at 21-23 X5 45e or Cayenne ehybrid, for your use case at 16-18k km a year, don't do it. It doesn't fit your usage at all and you'll be burning a lot of gas.

The XC90 has been around for awhile already so you should be able to find one. The GLE450e is new for 2024 so probably out of your range as well, ditto the RX.

And fuck lol.... range rover and towing long range. He's gonna need a tow for the RR and a tow for the tow.

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9160932)

T8 PHEV is a total POS, T6 twincharged was a total POS (supercharger failures melt the car), EX90 is looking like a disaster too.

Originally Posted by radeonboy (Post 9160907)

GLE450e's are pretty rare, and probably 'too-big' by the wife since it's closer to X5 in size than the Cayenne.

Given the wife's options (PHEV, SUV of that class, size, no domestics), only the Cayenne fits the bill (maybe that's her end game? :lol). The other option I can think of is the RX PHEV but that's still too new and $$$.

I think she can acclimatize to the size of an X5, otherwise, would the wife consider one size down? That will open up options like the NX, XC60, X3 30e etc.

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9160910)

low key i think she just wants the cayenne, have u tried offering the PHEV range rover?

x5 and gle image is not good; it's giving mid-market New Jersey/Long Island mom who doesn't know better than Longchamps/LV/Goyard vibe.

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9160918)

If you are looking at 21-23 X5 45e or Cayenne ehybrid, for your use case at 16-18k km a year, don't do it. It doesn't fit your usage at all and you'll be burning a lot of gas.

A X5 40i is roughly 10k less for similar year/mileage/options out the door, and 10k is a lot of gas money when you can't take advantage of the EV part of the equation like we do. 8 hours a day only gets you about 18-20km of range, and none on the weekends, so easily 1/3 to 1/2 of your regular usage would still be on gas.

We've had the car for about 6 months now and put 7k on it. We've put in $70 of gas for the first 5 months, then Christmas happened, between the gatherings and activities and kids not being in school, we've had to put in another $70 in the last month. We are on the plug for easily 12-15 hours a day to keep up with our usage, and we will still empty the battery if we have more than 2 outings a day. The battery will also not make it to Langley and back from Vancouver.

The HOV sticker is relatively useless for us because we almost never take the car on the highway with just one person. We always have the kids in tow so we may as well not need it.

There are other options in the market like the Volvo XC90 Recharge and the GLE450e and Lexus RX500h. None of them will solve your lack of ability to charge. None of them will be as "sporty" as the X5 or Cayenne, though the X5 is already stretching the definition of sporty imo. The XC90 has been around for awhile already so you should be able to find one. The GLE450e is new for 2024 so probably out of your range as well, ditto the RX.

Keep in mind these cars are relatively rare, there's more X5 than Cayenne, and some of the Cayennes have really weird option loadouts. There's also the caveat of X5's missing options due to the chip shortage and makes looking for cars really testing for your patience.

TL;DR - Get a regular one with the options you want, whether if it's Cayenne or X5.



Your demographic is a little different from ours.

And fuck lol.... range rover and towing long range. He's gonna need a tow for the RR and a tow for the tow.

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9160929)

If you only drive 18000 km a year do you even save that much going electric? What about some fast ish wagons, I'm sure rs7, e63 will have no problem towing occasionally.

18000km / 10l/100km = 1800 liters at $1.75 =$3150, even if your mpg is ass at 20l/100km that's $6300 a year $525 month

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9160930)

It's more like 15-20L/100km in that class of car

Wife probably just wants PHEV cuz she heard from her coworker it saves gas!

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD (Post 9160926)

On cars: XC90 is crazy problematic, check engine light is on even more often than VW.

On charging: it's actually a lot cheaper to solve that we think.

Take a standard 5-15 120V outlet and convert to a 6-20 for like $50-100, gets you 4kw.

Use a webasto turbocord charger.

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9160940)

Man just tell your wife what she wants doesn't exist.

If my GF was putting all that down on me I'd tell her the only vehicle that even remotely matches what she wants is a POS Cayenne Hybrid and we're not buying it, end of story, design your own SUV and we'll drive that when you're done OR be more reasonable.

Originally Posted by bcrdukes (Post 9160933)

@radeonboy - Do you anticipate these problems on your twin charged Volvo? :badpokerface:

Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9160960)

Yeah or even U-haul + car trailer.

$19.95 a day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Yjv-eCrNY

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9160954)

Plus she’s super sweet and nice. D’s got a good wife, nothing wrong with wanting a Porsche. Especially since you’re such a VAG guy…. In fact you probably lead her down this road.

I’d get an old sequoia if I were you but once again the gas kills.

Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9160937)

She doesn't even drive 95% of the time, it's mostly me. KEKW