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Old 08-12-2025, 06:17 AM   #6451
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Is ceramic coating still a good option? I thought most were moving to clear ppf which is not that much more expensive ... ceramic coating pricing has come down though.
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Is ceramic coating still a good option? I thought most were moving to clear ppf which is not that much more expensive ... ceramic coating pricing has come down though.
I think they solve different problems so it depends on what you need. PPF is more about protecting the paint from chips (or similar damage) while ceramic is more about ease of cleaning and looks (gloss). Both offer protection from the elements (bird shit stuff). If you have the funds and the car is worth enough then doing both makes sense.

I have ceramic as I don't drive much and want an easy to clean car that's very shiny. If I lived in a rock chip capital like Alberta I would have gotten PPF instead.
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Are ceramic coatings the spray-on types that you can get off the shelf? Or are they more involved where you need hours of application onto the vehicle?
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Are ceramic coatings the spray-on types that you can get off the shelf? Or are they more involved where you need hours of application onto the vehicle?
This would be the latter we're talking about - paint correction then a semi-permanent coating that should last a few years. The spray on stuff is getting really, really good though and is also getting super easy to apply (spray on and rinse off). It, of course, doesn't last as long nor does it offer the same calibre of protection but it's great stuff for the average Joe.
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Thanks for that. I just saw a quick clip on Project Farm comparing a variety of off-the-shelf spray on ceramic solutions and I thought, hey, this isn't too bad. Worth considering for sure!
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Alright guys, by some miracle, I sold another Ioniq 5 N, now he is asking about PPF and Ceramic, I have no idea what I am talking about, I do know the owner of Speed Projects Laboratory

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Is ceramic coating still a good option? I thought most were moving to clear ppf which is not that much more expensive ... ceramic coating pricing has come down though.
Like what supa says, they solve different issues. I have both on the Audi - I got it new enough that the paint was in good condition; to preserve the front and prevent rock chips (especially on the headlights as they cost 4k apiece due to LED lights woo) I got the front PPFd, and the rest of the car professionally ceramic coated. It involved a one stage polish, full detailing etc for prep and then Cquartz ceramic coating was applied. It's been 4 years and the coating is in need of a refresh but it has made cleaning and maintaining it far easier. The PPF has definitely saved me from quite a few rock chips, including a few large ones that visibly damaged the PPF. I'll eventually take it off.

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This would be the latter we're talking about - paint correction then a semi-permanent coating that should last a few years. The spray on stuff is getting really, really good though and is also getting super easy to apply (spray on and rinse off). It, of course, doesn't last as long nor does it offer the same calibre of protection but it's great stuff for the average Joe.
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Thanks for that. I just saw a quick clip on Project Farm comparing a variety of off-the-shelf spray on ceramic solutions and I thought, hey, this isn't too bad. Worth considering for sure!
The spray coatings are getting so good and so easy to use. I use Meguiar's NXT Ceramic on the S2000, and it was so slick my magnetic door number decals flew off on the Mission main straight.


IMO the benefit of the professional coatings is the detailing/polishing done beforehand, and trying to "lock in" that state for the longest time possible.
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Sacrilege is what I'd say about Honda recycling the RSX nameplate.


IMO Honda is trying too hard with the front end to make it look futuristic. It could have looked a lot nicer (and more Lambo looking) had they not used so many slanted lines and shapes at different angles.
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I think the end result will look like a combo of ZDX and Buick Envista (which is apparently selling incredibly well)
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Yea cuz those were leasing $500 CAD taxes in per month.

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Sacrilege is what I'd say about Honda recycling the RSX nameplate.

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Thanks, I hate it.

The prototype EVs from Honda all look weird and not in a good way - maybe the Honda SUV one works a bit but this and the sedan don't do anything for me. Take a page from the Ioniq 5 and look for some inspiration from the past and get the ride height down while still offering SUV packaging.

The Honda E was SUPER cool - make me a bigger one! Take a 3rd or 4th gen Civic hatch and blow it up. Gimme a modern interpretation of a Civic Wagovan! Shit, modern day Honda Element!
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Yea cuz those were leasing $500 CAD taxes in per month.

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They were giving these things away. You could get then for $500 all day.
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