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Nlkko 06-23-2016 08:16 PM
Looks like a decent blow for Clinton that market will tank on this nonsense from UK.

68style 06-23-2016 08:20 PM
This is really bad, now Scotland, who voted heavily to remain, will re-organize it's "Depart the UK" movement... nevermind the shitstorm on the stock market and currency exchange tomorrow. Fucking shortsighted assholes.

XplicitLuder 06-23-2016 08:31 PM
so theyre exiting for sure ? or just a heavy heavy favorite ?

EmperorIS 06-23-2016 08:33 PM

SkunkWorks 06-23-2016 08:35 PM
I don't even...

This is crazy. The uneducated and short-sighted reminds me of our HST debacle not long ago.

Traum 06-23-2016 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8766388)
First this and next thing you know Trump will be building a wall and banning muslim immigrants... We're devolving
Trump building a wall and banning Muslim immigrants are definitely signs of devolving, but Britons choosing to leave the UK isn't even remotely close to any sort of devolving at all. It is simply a matter of priorities and choices.

So they chose national sovereignty before economic strength, but why is that "wrong"? It is no different than you or me choosing to work in a job that pays less, but gives you more satisfaction.

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8766392)
This is really bad, now Scotland, who voted heavily to remain, will re-organize it's "Depart the UK" movement... nevermind the shitstorm on the stock market and currency exchange tomorrow. Fucking shortsighted assholes.
Again, I don't view people in the Leave camp as shortsighted assholes. There is no doubt there will be further de-stabilization of the EU and perhaps the UK as well. The stock market will probably head for a downward turn -- perhaps even for an extended length of time. But is that the Britons' "fault"? Again, it is simply a matter of choice. Compare the EU membership to a couple in an unhappy marriage. So one of the spouse is filing for divorce now because he/she is unhappy in the marriage. Does that automatically make one spouse an asshole? For what it is worth, it will make both persons in the marriage poorer too.

Traum 06-23-2016 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SkunkWorks (Post 8766397)
I don't even...

This is crazy. The uneducated and short-sighted reminds me of our HST debacle not long ago.
I'd view the HST debacle under quite a different light. With the HST already in place, there is really no benefit of any kind at all to roll it back. The only satisfaction the public would get is "teaching the BC Libs a lesson", which really amounted to nothing since these no-HST idiots promptly voted the Liberals back to another term in the office. And we haven't even talked about the economic costs from the rollback. Now that is what I'd call shortsightedness.

7seven 06-23-2016 08:47 PM
Well this was a surprising result

jackmeister 06-23-2016 08:49 PM
gg no re (eu and the world)

murd0c 06-23-2016 08:50 PM
the world is going to shit and with this happening this could be a domino effect with the rest of europe going to shit and more civil uprise and possible go into the directing of WW3

EmperorIS 06-23-2016 08:55 PM
When is that space ship to Mars ready?

68style 06-23-2016 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8766400)
Trump building a wall and banning Muslim immigrants are definitely signs of devolving, but Britons choosing to leave the UK isn't even remotely close to any sort of devolving at all. It is simply a matter of priorities and choices.

So they chose national sovereignty before economic strength, but why is that "wrong"? It is no different than you or me choosing to work in a job that pays less, but gives you more satisfaction.


Again, I don't view people in the Leave camp as shortsighted assholes. There is no doubt there will be further de-stabilization of the EU and perhaps the UK as well. The stock market will probably head for a downward turn -- perhaps even for an extended length of time. But is that the Britons' "fault"? Again, it is simply a matter of choice. Compare the EU membership to a couple in an unhappy marriage. So one of the spouse is filing for divorce now because he/she is unhappy in the marriage. Does that automatically make one spouse an asshole? For what it is worth, it will make both persons in the marriage poorer too.

The primary argument of leavers is to close England's borders, therefore building a "wall" into the UK (and out of, but the assholes who primarily voted on this basis don't care because they're the type of people to never move out of their little shit towns) so yes, I do stand by calling them short-sighted assholes.

This is less like the UK divorcing the EU and moreso like the UK choosing to be in an unhappy relationship within its own member countries, and now banning any strangers or friends from coming over and focusing only on fighting within itself.

Nevermind how ridiculous this makes democracy look in that something can pass even though nearly 49% of the population is completely opposed to it.

Nlkko 06-23-2016 09:06 PM
Black Friday circuit breaker day. Black Swan event, weaken other market like US. S&P futures dumped over 100 points and market is not even open. Federal Reserve, who has played every single cards right thus far this year to take market up (strengthening Clinton bid in the process) can no longer hike rate, would be interesting to see their counter.

Meanwhile bad economy is bad for Clinton and great for Trump popularity. Undecided will look at UK and be like, yep, Trump makes sense, let's do it.

From the polls breakdown it's clear the higher education population chose to remain and the hoi polloi chose to leave.

I'm sure it will be fine.

CorneringArtist 06-23-2016 09:06 PM
Oil has dropped to $46 a barrel as the votes leaned to Leave. The Sterling has also taken a few more hits in the wake of the vote as well.

Hehe 06-23-2016 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by XplicitLuder (Post 8766394)
so theyre exiting for sure ? or just a heavy heavy favorite ?
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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8766405)
the world is going to shit and with this happening this could be a domino effect with the rest of europe going to shit and more civil uprise and possible go into the directing of WW3
Nah... it's just a movie with twisted end that no one likes. :badpokerface:

The referendum basically says that british choose to leave EU. But then it'd go through the 2yr negotiation period with the rest of EU members. You can bet that by the time we reach that point, everything would be normalized/accounted for.

I can't say the remaining EU members wouldn't be tempted to leave, but to be frank, only France and Germany would be able to sorta benefit from leaving EU as they are strong economically to make it work. However, both countries were the brain of EU establishment and they won't let it go easily.

Other EU members would be too scared/little interest to leave EU as they would go into recession/economic uncertainty if they do.

Tl;dr... relax... it's just some unexpected turbulence, the flight would continue as planned.

Ch28 06-23-2016 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8766405)
the world is going to shit and with this happening this could be a domino effect with the rest of europe going to shit and more civil uprise and possible go into the directing of WW3
Ugh....Britain leaving EU leading to WW3? Jumping the gun a little bit there, don't you think?

Traum 06-23-2016 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8766408)
Nevermind how ridiculous this makes democracy look in that something can pass even though nearly 49% of the population is completely opposed to it.
This is something I completely agree with. For such a major and important issue, deciding on an outcome via a simple majority is taking things too lightly. Many places require something along the lines of 2/3 majority before major decisions, motions, or amendments can pass. When a policy has as much resistance as the Brexit debate, the bickering and fighting can never be stopped regardless of how the outcome turns out. The requirements to pass the something this major should have been higher.

Nlkko 06-23-2016 09:15 PM
UK just trumped US in wall building category.

RRxtar 06-23-2016 09:19 PM
can someone reasonably unbiasedly give a couple of pros and cons of staying and leaving from britains point of view.

i don't have enough time to sort thru e-pinions but im just wondering

Traum 06-23-2016 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RRxtar (Post 8766418)
can someone reasonably unbiasedly give a couple of pros and cons of staying and leaving from britains point of view.

i don't have enough time to sort thru e-pinions but im just wondering
This BBC article here gives a pretty clear and unbiased opinion on both sides:

The UK's EU referendum: All you need to know - BBC News

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Why do they want the UK to leave?
They believe Britain is being held back by the EU, which they say imposes too many rules on business and charges billions of pounds a year in membership fees for little in return. They also want Britain to take back full control of its borders and reduce the number of people coming here to live and/or work. One of the main principles of EU membership is "free movement", which means you don't need to get a visa to go and live in another EU country. They also object to the idea of "ever closer union" and what they see as moves towards the creation of a "United States of Europe".

Why do they want the UK to stay?
Those campaigning for Britain to stay in the EU say it gets a big boost from membership - it makes selling things to other EU countries easier and, they argue, the flow of immigrants, most of whom are young and keen to work, fuels economic growth and helps pay for public services. They also believe Britain's status in the world would be damaged by leaving and that we are more secure as part of the 28 nation club, rather than going it alone.
Now, I generally agree that the reasons to stay make for a stronger argument for me, and if I were a UK citizen, I would have voted to Remain as well. But I understand the sentiments of the Leave camp as well.

PeanutButter 06-23-2016 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SkunkWorks (Post 8766397)
I don't even...

This is crazy. The uneducated and short-sighted reminds me of our HST debacle not long ago.
I don't think this is anywhere close to being the same thing.
The HST was black and white.
This vote has many variables

6o4__boi 06-23-2016 09:47 PM
What's that #Brexit is evolving?
#Brexit evolved into #CEUlater

The_AK 06-23-2016 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by EmperorIS (Post 8766406)
When is that space ship to Mars ready?
Get in line, buddy

dbaz 06-23-2016 10:41 PM
welp at least i won on the bet.

westopher 06-23-2016 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 8766203)
Why the fail nsmb? That's the opinion of many analysts on the BBC too...
All he does is fail people and never contribute to any conversation.


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