The issue with LEED is that you basically have two choices: you can either have your building virtually modeled (which, from my understanding, is extremely rare), or you use the points-based prescription model.

https://mcrconstruction.com/content/...ecklist_lg.jpg

It becomes more about $/point, especially if you're required to meet a certain certification level like PSOs have to, rather than actual GHG reductions, energy performance, or ROI.

I didn't know LEED was applied to green energy production projects. Typically they're for buildings and facilities.

Good read on the negotiating that took place between KMC and the Feds

https://business.financialpost.com/c...tain-to-ottawa

Many good changes coming (IMO anyway), lots of work that was going to be awarded to non-union contractors will now be awarded to the building trades and the direct ties between the major construction contractor and the engineering firm have been severed and a new EPC brought in.

What a fucking joke. It's officially impossible to do business in Canada. Trudeau better get his shit together with nafta and sort this out or we are fucked for anyone wanting to invest here

Liberals 'absolutely committed' to Trans Mountain after Federal Court of Appeal quashes construction approvals

The funny thing is, the native bands fighting it aren't even in the way of the pipeline... just adjacent to it... all the ones in the way of the pipeline are happy to take millions of dollars in payments, some of those bands are as little as 50 people in size it's huge money for them.

The ones adjacent to it are fighting for the "environment"................. because they're not getting paid lol

Is the Squamish Nation's concerns not legitimate though? A twined pipeline would bring dramatically increased marine traffic traversing the waters immediately next to their reserves. In another news article that I've read, I think the numbers are expected to go up from less than 10 ships a day to over 30. The increased traffic means increased risks of spillage among other things, and the federal governments environmental assessment has failed to account for that.

You can make a cynical statement about these natives just wanting in on a piece of the money pie. But at the end of the day, there was a procedure and consultation process to follow, and the Trudeau / Lib government has dropped the ball on it quite badly.

IMO, the Trudeau / Lib gov has no one but themselves to blame for the sticky situation that they are now finding themselves in. To assign or divert the majority of blame on anyone else is inappropriate.

The minority fuck it up for the majority...

Re: the increased ship traffic, it seems like a lot when you consider how many oil specific tankers are coming in... yes then it’s a 200% increase... but in the grand total of ships and tankers coming in? Drop in the bucket. They never tell those statistics, so no the effect is extremely minimal in my mind if not totally inconsequential.

You should go to a talk by the minister in charge of DFO / formerly of Environment Canada who resides in north van... the government did their research on this, you’re reading too many headlines. Contrary to popular belief and a perhaps biased hatred of Trudeau, the government is very responsible... much moreso than any private corporation ever will be.

Natives complaining about the environment?

Most of the the reservations I've driven through could be mistaken for Iraq. I question how environmentally conscious they truly are.

Lol.. this country is doomed..

They aren't. At all. The biggest hypocrites you'll meet.

There is certainly some validity to the decision from the Federal Court of Appeal.

In the Phase III consultation (Post NEB assessment and approval from the Governor in Council) the Project could be viewed as being dismissive of claims put forward by indigenous people.

However, if you can appreciate this, the indigenous people tend to make broad claims like "This project will negatively affect my traditional land use and livelihood" without actually quantifying that claim. KMC is basically forced to dismiss claims of this nature as there is really no design/construction/operation measures that could be used to suitably address these types of concerns, the concerns are so broad that they can only be addressed through an outright cancellation of the Project... which is the obvious objective of the Indigenous people claiming there was insufficent consultation.

Then there is the fact that virtually every single aboriginal group/community along the ROW was compensated and supports the project... whereas every single aboriginal group/community off the ROW was not compensate and does not support the project.

This is a cautionary tale for all types of resource development - So long as Trudeau continues to provide seemingly unlimited powers to the indigenous people all resource development projects will encounter tremendous resistance, supported by a potentially endless consultation process.

Hey let's stay poor together we can live off the land and bike around.

Looks like Notley has pulled Alberta out of the climate plan now.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...s-climate-plan

such cock block
i take glee in seeing more orcas carry their stillborn for days
our channels need more penetrating noise pollution
so China can produce more plastic and North Korea can build more nukes SeemsGood

politicians are so fucked.

You bought the fucking pipeline, make it fucking happen, jesus christ.

Seeing a many native american facebook profiles, I can say this ethnicity of people dont want to risk their ancestral lands and see through the fake "american dream" that our system is.

This mostly comes down to race.. poor settlers will gladly play along as long as they can pay their rat race mortgages and ever lowering standard of living.

Seems to me like a child is throwing a temper tantrum after a supervising adult takes her toy away...

Seems to me that our country is going down the shitter right quick.
Anticipate more good news on the NAFTA front tomorrow as well :alonehappy:

I'm expecting us to get shafted with a shxtty deal, esp with the dairy situation.

Gonna have to watch and make sure I am still buying Canadian milk in the future, even if they are more $$$. But it is really the various dairy products that we have to watch out for since the manufacturer of those products won't tell you were they source their ingridients. If they can replace Canadian milk with the cheap US equivalent, you bet they're gonna do that.
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The decision has nothing to do with the federal government giving "unlimited powers" to Indigenous groups. The duty to consult Indigenous groups has been defined in multiple court decisions over the last 10-15 years. Governments have no choice but to "consult" with First Nations under section 35 of the Charter.

If the next government is a Conservative government, they will run into the same problems as the Trudeau government in trying to get this pipeline up and running if they don't consult First Nations in the manner that the courts have instructed governments over the last 10-15 years. Today's Federal Court of Appeal decision has given further clarity as to what would be considered meaningful consultation. Indigenous law is a big business - there's no shortage of lawyers who will help First Nations take the government to court.

:pokerface: have you driven through a res before?

Ive seen video, not sure what youre trying to get at.

The duty to consult is not unique to First Nations, it’s a duty to consult with the public. (Natives et. al)

I’m making reference to Trudeau introducing new legislation regarding the approval process for projects where additional consideration is provided to indigenous people.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4525666

This new process basically equates to an “indefinite consultation” model.

The same natives that oppose the pipeline for environmental reasons are on record stating that they wouldn’t be opposed to the Project if it was owned and operated by indigenous people... I guess tanker traffic doesn’t matter the second natives are collecting the cheques ;)