Anyone who thinks that Horgan wouldn't be doing the exact same thing if situation was reversed has to be kidding themselves....

And he would be criticized in exactly the same way if that were to happen.

I don't disagree at all with that at all, and really Christy Clark is burned with BC voters at this point

The issue is that if a sudden snap election comes up, and the Liberals haven't gone through the process to select a new leader yet, they will be force to appoint an interim candidate. That is arguably worse because nobody will know much about the person, and voters may not respond well to being offered a leader that will be swapped out shorty after.

The other thing is the Liberals might actually survive this confidence vote if even a single NDP/Green party member doesn't show up, or even if they come late and get locked out. It has happened in Canada where somebody shows up late and is left outside banging on the door to get in on a critical vote, haha.

At this point none of the parties have taken any kind of action that isn't perfectly in line with proper protocol. The only thing that really made me raise an eyebrow was when Horgan and Weaver were making a big fuss about the speaker and blaming Clark, I realize they are just trying to get the public to side with them, but this is how our government works and the should stop trying to twist it into an attack.

BUMP: Today is the big day

Varying outcomes may occur:

Expected: Liberal government falls on confidence vote and NDP-Green Government in Waiting will take power

Very Possible: Because of the narrow margin and use of speaker as a tie-breaker in all confidence votes, the government in waiting may be rejected and cause an immediate snap election

Could Happen: A green or NDP candidate might be late or absent, or be disgruntled with the coalition and decide to tank the deal by not voting, and the Liberal government will survive for a few more weeks

Least Likely To Occur: The Liberals have tweaked their platform to try and appeal to the NDP and Green more, in hopes they will support them in a minority position

nope today is not really the big day

non-confidence vote isn't expected til next week

today is just the start of all the yakkity yak

My understanding this morning the Liberals will appoint a speaker, and then in the afternoon Clark will give her throne speech and there will be a vote of confidence.

B.C. legislature returns June 22, confidence vote on Clark's Liberals expected | CTV News

"....the government would introduce a throne speech, Telford said. There would be a reply from the Opposition, a debate and then a confidence vote."

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle35308750/

Hate to disappoint ya...but politicin' ain't quick business.

Well, there isn't exactly a playbook on how this will go down, they are in uncharted waters. However, from everything I've heard it sounds like the vote is today unless the Liberals intentionally delay it (which Clark has been quoted several times now saying she won't).

I can't see this going on for another week either, so I would say it is happening today

UPDATE: CBC Twitter has reported that the speaker was voted in

Here is the new speaker, Kelowna-Mission MLA Steve Thomson:


Speaker named for the BC Legislature - NEWS 1130


Kelowna-Mission MLA Steve Thomson has been elected as speaker for the BC Legislative Assembly.

He was the only BC Liberal to step forward

lol ok if you say so

I presented the sources. But based on what you're hearing we'll see. It's not that Clark will delay, it's despite all the hoopla surrounding today, there is still due process pointing to the actual vote being next week.
I wish the government did work as fast as you envisioned it.

Sorry, you may be correct here, there is a 4 day debate on the throne speech

I was thinking there was another mechanism that would trigger the vote for some reason

4 days of debating a throne speech nobody wants to support, lol

guvment...lemme tell ya

Horgan is such a fucking clown uhgg..

Whether christy is being sincere or not she is essentially bowing down to the demands of the other parties with the throne speech and enabling the legislature they wanted implemented

Then this morning Horgan on the radio saying they are ready to vote down all and every aspect of the speech because christy is not being sincere in her actions?

Jesus fuck..

Hope they keep voting everything down until another election is called and they lose that deciding riding.

You can't trust someone like her that flip flops so much, especially now that she is in a position of weakness.

"oh guys, I PROOOOOMISSSE to not be bad anymore. I swear it!"

Quite the drama queen ain't you :troll:

lol, failings of Horgan aside, given Crusty's track record, I would take any form of "sincerity" from her with a massive grain of salt.

What I see is Christy not being able to step down from what is blatant loss in confidence in her. If another election is called it'll be just as the fault of the liberals as it is of the ndp.

who would be a suitable candidate to replace Christy Clark as party leader?

I didn't vote for a NDP Green collaboration... bunch of loosers
Only 1 party should win

This is the dumbest thing I've read in this thread.

We don't have bipartisanship here in Canada.

How do you expect only 1 party to win when there are numerous parties out there representing varying percentages of people?

There's a reason why the Liberals have continued to push hard for campaign donations. They received close to 1 MILLION DOLLARS in donations 3 days after the election

B.C. Liberals deposit close to $1 million in donations three days after election | Vancouver Sun

They definitely have a lot of campaign funding, but I think the general population would really sour on them, especially the ones that are riding the fence on voting Liberals, because of the wasted time and money.

If it was up to me to pick from the BCL pool, I'd probably pick Jas Johal


I suppose that is one way to look at it

Another way would be to consider the fact that voters in BC are split nearly in half between values of the left and right parties. Really, the Liberals are the only party that seemed to have recognized that they need to try and represent ALL of British Colombians and extended an olive branch to try and bridge the gap. The NDP seems very happy to only represent their half with their hard-line party platforms.


That said, I don't think it was a good move on the Liberals to try and soften their stances. While it is actually somewhat honorable, but there is nothing to be gained by doing it, and it opens them up to exactly this type of opportunistic criticism. Horgan has a giant raging boner for the Premiers seat, and he already sold out his own party to get it, there was no point to this move.

It wouldn't matter to Horgan that they could potentially work collaboratively with the Liberals to achieve some of more important goals and form a more stable government... he is going to take the unstable mess he sold his soul to the Green's for, even if it is just for a few months, haha.

I am actually looking forward to seeing Horgan lose his shit on TV in the next few weeks, he is known to be a massive spaz

Was there not something more official looking they could have used? Might as well print it in comic sans.

OK... last time I bumped the thread it was a bit pre-mature

Today is the day... so either an election will be called, or Horgan and Weaver will take power. The vote will take place late this afternoon, and then at around 5:30 or so, Clark will have to meet with the GG and discuss what happens next.

It could go either way, Clark isn't going to recommend a new election, but she also won't endorse the Green-NDP as a stable option. The GG also is only supposed to take direction from the premier, even if Horgan is banging on the window outside going "COME ON!!!"

Let Horgan in while Chirsty can have her party vote against everything Horgan put forward. I am sure this will put Horgan on his toes because he barely have control of the house and I am sure some of the important stuff he wanted to get pass will get voted down. in a few months election time and Horgan is going to lose a lot of seats coz he can't pass any bills lol.

i suspect we will be having another election. i wonder if the liberals will be punished for this or people will be scared and go with the stable choice.

if the liberals manage to get a majority id have to wonder if theyll be trying to replace clark before the next election. theres no way theyll have a leadership contest if theres a minority/coalition since an election could happen at any time