If NDP come through with any real plans that heavily effect housing the trickle down effect is going to hurt so many people's it's not going to be funny.

The 90's NDP with similar spending and housing attitudes descimated the construction industry.

Like it or not, the RE boom created a force to be reckoned with in the current construction industry, and it's not just lining the pockets of Aqualinis and Bosa's etc. How many people are employed in trades and construction because of the current RE climate? How many of these people have good paying jobs and solid work because of it? Ive never once seen a plumber or electrician, or hell, even a framer be the one on the news complaining they can't afford a "home" because of their bad choices both career wise and in their family planning.

If things change who gives a shit if there's $10/day childcare or no tolls if you've got no job to go to.

I'm gonna take the contrarian stance like all the pathetic losers out there with their fingers crossed hoping for a "RE crash". I'm hoping all the people who voted in the NDP under he presumption of all this free money being handed out like candy end up jobless and worse off than ever because of their short sighted single issue voting strategies.

Fuck em all baby!

She needs to just go away, I don't see the Liberals doing well with her anymore. Time to resign bitch.

I don't think the people that were prospering under the Liberals voted NDP. So the people that were fed up and wanted change, and perhaps afford a place that isn't in Whalley should all lose their jobs now?

I understand life was probably good for you with the Liberals, but that doesn't mean it was great for everyone.

Life was pretty decent for pretty much everyone i know/associate with. As i said, having a solid job, having money in your pocket, Living in the lowermainland, etc. etc. isnt good? The NDP is going to put you in a new home in Vancouver with that $16/Hour arts degree and 3 kids under the age of 10? :smug:

So really, it's unlikely things are going to be getting 'better' under the NDP, infact, i'd wager for a lot of the people i know things are going to get worse, and could be MUCH worse depending on how the new legislation goes.

People have a perception things are bad because they arent keeping up to the joneses or because they've locked them self into a situation where they are paying stupid amounts of money for child care, housing, etc.

Most of those things have to do with personal choices and lifestyles, not the ruling government. Saving $400 a year on rent isnt going to turn somones life around where they are now buying a home. We've passed that point a longgggg time ago.

Like I said, it's been great for you. You have a house that you didn't have to overpay for, and your job was stable. Not every job sector did great under the Liberals. Apparently enough people weren't doing great or why wouldn't the Liberals have won by a landslide?

Because people have an idea in their head they should be doing " better" than they are, when in reality they werent willing to put in the work to better their situation themselves.

It's not about being lazy or working harder either, it's about doing more than the status quo to differentiate yourself from the pack. Looking for a hand up, not a hand out.

ie. NDP mentality, or at least the perception.

What marky said.

Look at the people displaced with renovictions and people struggling to save. Liberals kept ignoring the fact of speculators and rising foreign ownership.

there will always be losers and winners. But everyone didn't flourish under Christy.

Sorry but some things like houses going up 50% in a year or two isn't something to just shrug your shoulders at. The Liberals fucked everyone by dragging their feet for years and now, like you said, it's lonnnngg past the point of repair.

I bet a lot of people didn't even vote for the NDP, they voted for that twat to be outed.

This has nothing to do with differentiating themselves from the pack or doing more than the status quo. The argument that people didn't put in the work to get ahead is the biggest bullshit excuse, and it always comes from people who have a stable job and own a home.

What about all the kids who came out of universities over the past 5 years and are now establishing themselves? Or the ones who are coming out of school just now? Are there the right jobs for them in this market? Does Metro Vancouver have a well diversified economy that provides jobs that pay enough for people to make rent or buy a starter condo near their place of employment? Do people have good work/life balances?

Easy to spout off a throne that your family and your friends are doing great.

If you think people voted against the Liberals because of any single issue, especially housing, I mean, that's just delusional.

The NDP was projected to win 4 years ago, before the real estate market in Vancouver went insane. Obviously we know the Liberals ended up with a clear majority, but the Liberals only got 44% of the popular vote.

There have been longstanding issues with the Liberals that they've either failed to address or exacerbated in their policies otherwise, as MarkyMark said, no one would have an issue voting for them.

some of hondaracer's point are valid

but when you mix in personal anecdotes and experience based on "family and friends" along with assessments and speculations entirely based on personal beliefs and generalizations...it waters down what you're trying to say.

Does this news conference today mean that Crusty is resigning? FeelsGoodMan

Clark to address media, BC NDP caucus vote on Green Party deal - NEWS 1130

Looking at the popular vote between the 2013 vs 2017 elections:

2013 Libs: 795,946 votes / 44.14%
2017 Libs: 796,672 votes / 40.36%

2013 NDP: 715,999 votes / 39.71%
2017 NDP: 795,106 votes / 40.28%

2013 Green: 146,607 votes / 8.13%
2017 Green: 332,387 votes / 16.84%

Essentially, the Libs pretty much kept the same number of votes, but we know that they fell heavily out of favour in the Lower Mainland (to the NDP) as well as on the Island (to the Greens and the NDP), while gaining patches of votes here and there in other places. An almost 4% drop in the overall percentage is HUGE.

The NDP and the Greens, however, picked up a mega shxtload of votes. I don't have a good explanation of that, other than the guess that BC voters wanted someone else other than Crusty / Libs to run the show.

Christy criticizes Weaver/Horgan for negotiating behind closed doors. Brings up some schmuck about constitution. Then in the same breath says that she made it clear to her negotiating team and the Greens that they were NOT gonna negotiate in public.

1:15 and 4:15

https://www.pscp.tv/christyclarkbc/1ynKOjWBqmrxR?t=12

Yeah. Ok then.

I don't make a ton of money in fact my income is pretty low. Less than 60k a year yet I can save enough to purchase an apartment. Hmmm I wonder how did that happen? Oh right! I didn't go partying and spend hundreds of dollars every weekend! I didn't go out for dinner on weekly! I didn't get that $200 limited edition runners! I didn't go on vacation every year! I don't go to Starbucks everyday and then complain at the end of the month I have no money! I don't get a brand new Wardrobes full of the newest fashion every 3 months!

Is a choice. If you have the will to save for a downpayment you will. I know a couple who have the mom working as part time doing cleaning for an office complex, the dad works in construction and have 3 kids. and guess what? They are able to save for a down payment for a 650k townhome in Langley. Yea is far. But guess what they got a home. They did it by saving and not spending on unnecessary things.

Christy Clark won’t resign as B.C. premier – yet
Christy Clark won?t resign as B.C. premier ? yet | Vancouver Sun

Christy Clark may not have enough seats to win a confidence vote, but she won’t resign without a fight.

Clark told reporters Tuesday she would test the confidence of the house rather than give up her post as premier. That test will come as early as next month, she said.

“We have a duty to meet the house and to test its confidence. Constitutional conventions tells us that and I intend to do that in very short order.”

The decision comes one day after NDP Leader John Horgan and Green Leader Andrew Weaver reached a power-sharing agreement to lead the house.

“If there is going to be a transfer of power in this province, and it certainly seems like there will be, it shouldn’t be done behind closed doors. It should happen in public … it should happen in the peoples’ house with 87 members elected by British Columbians to our legislature making that decision,” she said.

Live stream of NDP-Green agreement ratification.

NDP, Green alliance to focus on banning big money, electoral reform and stopping Kinder Morgan - British Columbia - CBC News

You make less than 60k a year and you saved up for an apartment how? What was your rent during these years of saving, how much was your apartment? What was your down payment? How long did it take? Did anyone else contribute or was it all you?

Need the info pal

So instead of going to school for somthing that they knew they would get a good paying job in, they studied in a field that was already heavily saturated with people simply trying to get their foot in a door at a base salary?

What industries in Vancouver existed 5/6/7/8 years ago that seemed feasible at the time no longer exist now? i cant think of many..

Meanwhile, people who went into trades and took a similar timeline in terms of education are easily making $40/50/60+ an hour in an industry with seemingly endless work, not only here, but outside of the province/country.

People dont want to get their hands dirty so you get an education that is a dime a dozen then expect to feed your family on a base salary with no experiance? please.

The one thing i will agree 100% on is the incease in home values over the last few years is unsustainable and should have been addressed.

The concept though that work is drying up and everyone is leaving is all bullshit though. -Everywhere- is busier than ever, services, restaurants, bars, retail stores, etc. For every one of those arts degree receptionists with 2 kids leaving the city, 50 people are waiting to rent out their appt.

Job stability is also somthing you personally work towards, not rely on others to provide.

Which part of being a sore loser does she not understand? FailFish Even when Hillary lost to the Orangutan, she knows she needed to concede when it was time to concede... FailFish

Maybe a big part of the answer is in this thread:

Confessions of a Frugal Shopper
https://www.revscene.net/forums/6640...l-shopper.html

That's a lot of salt there, and for no apparent reason.

The bigger question is why, in Vancouver, you have to live like a beggar while making 60K (which isn't small), to be able to afford down payment for a shoebox and you're now saddled with 1K+ payments a month for the next 30+ years.

It's not just "lack of willpower" that's shot up home prices to mostly unattainable heights you dunce. Yes, there are the entitled hippies that you've described, but they're not* the reason this problem exists.

How long did it take living like a beggar for you to save down payment, where'd you live during those years, and what was given to you as a benefit?

full text of the agreement between NDP and Greens

https://www.bcndp.ca/latest/its-time...itish-columbia

here's the TL;DR version from the greens

So the business un-friendly NDP and Greens want to stop 12B worth of construction projects (Kinder TMX and Site C) while simultaneously implementing measures to reduce the cost of housing...

If you've been thinking about selling your house in the GVA, now is probably a really good time to do just that. Expect a new form of taxes on RE transactions within the next year.

"Buy now or be priced out forever."

Horgan: "Hold my beer."