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Traum 05-09-2017 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8840806)
The only thing is there are some big ideological differences between the Greens and other parties... I know Andrew Weaver said he can work with anybody, but I also think that he is pretty stubborn and might throw a confidence vote just to prove a point.

I don't think a minority would survive the 4 years, my guess is we will probably be back at the polls within 12~24 months

With Steve Harpy's federal Cons once working with Jack Layton's NDP to fend off the Liberals, I'd have to say ideological differences can at least take a backseat in the face of immediate benefits -- at least for a while.

At this point, it honestly seems like the most important outcome is to keep the Liberals from crossing that 43 seat line.

hchang 05-09-2017 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 8840808)
its 42-42-3 now

lol

Lol......

Please don't let the NDP win....

MrPhreak 05-09-2017 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8840814)
With Steve Harpy's federal Cons once working with Jack Layton's NDP to fend off the Liberals, I'd have to say ideological differences can at least take a backseat in the face of immediate benefits -- at least for a while.

At this point, it honestly seems like the most important outcome is to keep the Liberals from crossing that 43 seat line.

This is an incredible opportunity for Weaver and the Greens really, he is going to be able to have a huge hand in policy making and get some of the things he really feels strongly about implemented.

Either NDP or Liberals, I am sure he doesn't care who cooperates with him

MrPhreak 05-09-2017 09:28 PM

CTV just declared it will be a minority government

However, they don't know who it will be yet, lol

There is a 72% chance it will be a perfect tie

Another intersting stat: Minority governments typically only last 18 months on average


At least one thing is clear... this won't be the status quo going forward, politics in BC is going to be very interesting in the next couple of months

6o4__boi 05-09-2017 09:35 PM

Lmao Andrew Weaver must be ecstatic right now

westopher 05-09-2017 09:37 PM

If ndp holds more seats than the libs, does krusty still get to cut the ribbons at LNG plant constructions?

Traum 05-09-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8840816)
This is an incredible opportunity for Weaver and the Greens really, he is going to be able to have a huge hand in policy making and get some of the things he really feels strongly about implemented.

Either NDP or Liberals, I am sure he doesn't care who cooperates with him

I completely agree. If Weaver and the Greens can seize this opportunity and prove to the BC voters that they are capable of becoming a viable alternative to the Libs and the NDP, their support base could soar, and the provincial political landscape would shift dramatically. I know a LOT of voters are craving for such a viable alternative even in this election, but because they see none, they are continuing to vote Lib or NDP.

GS8 05-09-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8840821)
Lmao Andrew Weaver must be ecstatic right now

I worked on the first debate and met all three in person and he was by far the most interesting human being out of the three.

Teriyaki 05-09-2017 09:42 PM

Greens need a party name change or something... Most people are like "dafaq are they?"

MrPhreak 05-09-2017 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8840823)
I completely agree. If Weaver and the Greens can seize this opportunity and prove to the BC voters that they are capable of becoming a viable alternative to the Libs and the NDP, their support base could soar, and the provincial political landscape would shift dramatically. I know a LOT of voters are craving for such a viable alternative even in this election, but because they see none, they are continuing to vote Lib or NDP.

I am kind of excited and scared at the same time... I like some of the ideas Weaver put forward, and really disagree with others. He isn't going to get everything he wants, so I just wonder where Weaver will push hardest.

During the debate, and on the campaign trail I did notice that Horgan and Weaver really got into a lot of spats despite being on a more similar path when it comes to the environment. I kind of feel like Weaver and Clark get along better... but who really knows how this is going to turn out

EDIT: They are interviewing one of the green party guys right now, he is basically saying that they won't support any fossil fuel infrastructure projects. So goodbye LNG, Trans-mountain Pipeline... etc.

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8840825)
I worked on the first debate and met all three in person and he was by far the most interesting human being out of the three.

I personally liked him a lot in the debates, he was the only person that spoke from his heart and with clear objectives while the other two read from cue cards and just kept repeating each other. Of all three I'd like to have a beer with Weaver, not so much for the other two.

Eff-1 05-09-2017 09:57 PM

Wahoo! No more Suzanne Anton running the legal system, ICBC and setting the traffic laws and penalties, and being completely ignorant to the needs and opinions of BC drivers.

GS8 05-09-2017 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPhreak (Post 8840827)
I personally liked him a lot in the debates, he was the only person that spoke from his heart and with clear objectives while the other two read from cue cards and just kept repeating each other. Of all three I'd like to have a beer with Weaver, not so much for the other two.

CBC interviewed his parents and I can see where he gets his personality from. Very down-to-Earth, friendly and approachable.

The more I heard Horgan speak, the more I wondered 'what's he hiding' ?

Ch28 05-09-2017 10:01 PM

If it remains 42/42/3 then it'll likely be a Green/NDP coalition.

Andrew Weaver said that the Greens will only form a coalition if 3 conditions are met:

1. Ban corporate donation
2. Increase education funding
3. Electoral reform with better representation

NDP has said they want 1 and 3 while Liberals don't

Liberals said 2 was "doable" but Liberals have a history of fucking over nurses and teachers...so yeah.

Looks like Greens and NDP are likely to form a coalition

The Producer 05-09-2017 10:04 PM

advanced polls aren't in - and they represent a huge % of voters apparently

my riding is less than a 1000 votes apart - interesting times. you never think your vote really counts

EDIT: crazy watching the courtenay-comox numbers. sooo close

DragonChi 05-09-2017 10:04 PM

Still advanced votes to be counted.

underscore 05-09-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8840823)
I completely agree. If Weaver and the Greens can seize this opportunity and prove to the BC voters that they are capable of becoming a viable alternative to the Libs and the NDP, their support base could soar, and the provincial political landscape would shift dramatically. I know a LOT of voters are craving for such a viable alternative even in this election, but because they see none, they are continuing to vote Lib or NDP.

If it weren't for all their absurd environmental policies I'd be all over the Green party. I care about the environment but I can't stand all the traditional short-sighted, fear mongering "environmentalist" bullshit.

DragonChi 05-09-2017 10:16 PM

Yeah, not supporting fossil fuel related infrastructure is a big one.

Jmac 05-09-2017 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8840837)
If it weren't for all their absurd environmental policies I'd be all over the Green party. I care about the environment but I can't stand all the traditional short-sighted, fear mongering "environmentalist" bullshit.

I don't agree with the no fossil fuel projects thing, but throwing boatloads of money at a declining industry is the short-sighted thing to do.

Jmac 05-09-2017 10:39 PM

NDP won Courtenay-Comox by 9 votes

The Producer 05-09-2017 11:00 PM

^^lot of active military absentee votes in comox - that one would prob flip? i think that's my gut feeling on that demographic

The Producer 05-09-2017 11:18 PM

that's it for tonight - wild stuff

not sure what the timeline is for counting absentees

DragonChi 05-09-2017 11:26 PM

I heard it was 13 days? That makes it May 23rd.

Manic! 05-09-2017 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Producer (Post 8840844)
that's it for tonight - wild stuff

not sure what the timeline is for counting absentees

CBC projects B.C. Liberal minority government - British Columbia - CBC News

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Absentee ballots and judicial recounts mean the final result won't be known for two weeks

SkinnyPupp 05-09-2017 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8840837)
If it weren't for all their absurd environmental policies I'd be all over the Green party. I care about the environment but I can't stand all the traditional short-sighted, fear mongering "environmentalist" bullshit.

A minority government giving the Green Party the deciding vote might just be the best result possible

Manic! 05-10-2017 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8840849)
A minority government giving the Green Party the deciding vote might just be the best result possible

Problem is minority governments don't last.


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