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6o4__boi 04-29-2017 09:30 AM

Nah. BC voters are lazy as fuck

Id be surprised if we even hit 65% voter turn out this time around

Blueboy222 04-29-2017 09:33 AM


DragonChi 04-29-2017 10:14 AM

Are there that many voters out there that are benefiting from Liberal policies?

The BC Hydro debt is a surprise to me.

Traum 04-29-2017 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 8838785)
When I read the 'polls' about Brexit, the 2016 US Election yada yada, I knew polls meant fuck all.

I mean just because 70% of millennials don't approve of Clark, that in no way means she's going to lose. What % of millennials actually fucking vote?

And this part always baffles me. If you care enough to bxtch / disapprove of one party or another, why dafuq are you not heading out to vote?! :yuno: FailFish

Mr.HappySilp 04-29-2017 01:51 PM

Was going to advance voting today but starting to rain lol. We shall see tomorrow. To be honest all 3 parties sucks and none of them seen better than the others.

All 3 parties didn't address my needs and what I want to see change so why should I really vote anyways......

quasi 05-01-2017 10:00 AM

First year I've voted early, no lineup 10 outta 10 would do it again.

jasonturbo 05-01-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by zyzzjr (Post 8838787)

This must have been produced by the NDP lol

originalhypa 05-01-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8838783)
-going to the advance polls this weekend to cast my vote.

A.B.C.! Anybody but Crusty! :thumbsup:

I feel the same way as you. I want to punish the Liberal party in BC and the best way to do that is to vote in someone else.

But...... The greens platform is a joke. We have a Libertarian candidate, and he is plain nuts. Then there's the Conservative candidate who's platform seems like a step backwards in time.

So my options are the Liberal incumbent who has run my area for 20 years. Or an indo Canadian millenial woman who is promoting $10 child care, and cheaper tuition for post secondary. Half of her manifesto is about how Crusty is screwing us. Are you kidding me? Where is the foundation? Where is the structure? All I see is talking points, and personal attacks. It's actually a joke that the BC NDP have this huge opportunity to take power, and they're pissing it away with pointless rhetoric, and pathetic candidates.

I'm going to vote, mainly because of social responsibility. But there are no other horses in this race. Consider Langley East as a liberal stronghold, if only because there are no other options.

MarkyMark 05-01-2017 04:02 PM

If the NDP had any kind of a platform and someone who knew how to talk without looking like a fool I'd say they would have had a decent chance. The Liberals win by default, there's no one else.

Traum 05-03-2017 11:23 PM

The audio is not the best, but as someone who cares deeply about education, this interview is infuriating to watch. Kudos to Burnaby Now's Cornelia Naylor to stand her ground and to respectfully but directly rebuked the lies Christy continued to tell to British Columbians.


The truth is -- the BC Liberals government violated constitutional rights for 15 years. Instead of investing money into the education system, they used that money to fight a lengthy court battle that they eventually lost. And when the Supreme Court made the final ruling against her government, the money that must be put back in is now being touted as this government's desire to treat public education as a priority, that it is willing to spend millions on.

All the while, one whole generation of kids had suffered because of the severe cuts to the education system. Do not forget, a child who entered grade school 12 years ago had graduated/left the public education system by the time the Supreme Court ruling came. What was lost/damaged would be irreversible, and it was all the BC Liberals' doing.

Ch28 05-04-2017 01:58 AM

New York Times Exposes BC Liberal Corruption with regards to Real Estate

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"Participating companies have created few jobs, according to government figures, while more than 140 million Canadian dollars ($106 million) have been doled out in tax refunds since 2008, when the initiative was expanded."

“The government is selling B.C. as a tax haven for the global elite to park investment here, but not have to contribute.”
"At one point, the tax breaks were projected to create more than 13,000 jobs in British Columbia. According to ministry figures, though, fewer than 300 have been created as a result of the program, and possibly as few as 122."

"Experts say that with few public details, it is hard to tell whether the plan is worth the lost tax revenue. They also say the lack of disclosure prevents the public from knowing if companies are using the province as a pit stop on a global quest to avoid taxation."

"The tax breaks favor foreigners in other ways, too. Companies can receive refunds on real estate activities with foreigners, including mortgage loans on property in Canada for international buyers. Conducting the same domestic activities for Canadians would not qualify for the refunds. This has raised concerns that the tax refunds may encourage banks and other companies to prioritize foreigners over Canadians in Canada’s overheated housing markets."
tl;dr: Government finances the purchase of property to foreigners through tax breaks that are not available to citizens. The tax breaks are paid for by the citizens who pay tax, those corporations benefiting from the breaks are tax exempt, of course, or taxes at the CCPC rate, which is designed to encourage and promote small businesses in the province.

Blueboy222 05-04-2017 07:41 AM

:troll:

Digitalis 05-04-2017 08:41 PM

How do you explain all the empty store fronts in chinatown then?
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8837629)
As Tapioca lined out though, there are a lot of new businesses constantly opening in and around Vancouver.

Within the last 6 months there have been 10-15 new shops open up in my neighborhood and going out on a Friday night trying to find a seat for even a couple has become a chore because -everywhere- is busy. Literally any hole in the wall that serves a bowl of chips and booze seemingly has a wait.

I'd agree moreso to the desertion if places were closing down or dead, but honestly, East Van, Gas town, Rail town, etc. everywhere is busy as it's ever been imo.


MrPhreak 05-04-2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DragonChi (Post 8838792)
Are there that many voters out there that are benefiting from Liberal policies?

The BC Hydro debt is a surprise to me.

Only people who have jobs and actually pay tax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8839787)
New York Times Exposes BC Liberal Corruption with regards to Real Estate

tl;dr: Government finances the purchase of property to foreigners through tax breaks that are not available to citizens. The tax breaks are paid for by the citizens who pay tax, those corporations benefiting from the breaks are tax exempt, of course, or taxes at the CCPC rate, which is designed to encourage and promote small businesses in the province.

Meh... even if you took this at face value as the Liberals being corrupt; right now BC is leading the country in job growth and economic strength, so who gives a shit. They are obviously doing something right. As the old saying goes... if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

NDP is fucking poison

kr4l 05-04-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitalis (Post 8839897)
How do you explain all the empty store fronts in chinatown then?

Because Chinatown is no longer needed because of Richmond.

I'm trying to get a spot in Chinatown. Only reason I don't have it yet is because the landlord is being a picky asshole.

Also, Chinatown is going through a big change and is going to develop into the next gastown/yaletown

Ch28 05-04-2017 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kr4l (Post 8839902)
Chinatown is going through a big change and is going to develop into the next gastown/yaletown

I'm going to be so sad when that happens. All that history being washed away for a few shiny new condos

nah 05-04-2017 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Digitalis (Post 8839897)
How do you explain all the empty store fronts in chinatown then?

T&T killed Chinatown...

kr4l 05-05-2017 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8839904)
I'm going to be so sad when that happens. All that history being washed away for a few shiny new condos

That is true but it is what it is.

I don't think anyone would want to keep it around since it's like zombie land there with bums and addicts. In the end, someone's not going to like what happens to it, no matter what happens to it

Verdasco 05-05-2017 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nah (Post 8839917)
T&T killed Chinatown...

you cant blame TNT for killing chinatown lol

its because there was a stop in immigration for cantonese speakers in the 90s, and 2000s

everyone that came in the 70s , 80s etc moved out to different parts of vancouver because they found wealth. Better quality of life moving into homes near david thompson, killarney, windy, gladstone area etc.

That is why the government housing currently are filled with native canadians rather than 90% chinese back in the early 90's


and everyone got older..

Rallydrv 05-05-2017 01:32 PM

LIB and NDP both theifs and assholes, untrustworthy

green (although no track records to prove any of the above adjectives used ) have shitty policies.


at this point its going to be who you hate the least.

underscore 05-05-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8838783)
-going to the advance polls this weekend to cast my vote.

A.B.C.! Anybody but Crusty! :thumbsup:

I get that she's shit, but just voting for any idiot who isn't her is a great way to and up with someone even more useless in office. If you're voting to replace someone then for the love of everything ensure you're replacing them with someone who is actually better.

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8838830)
All 3 parties didn't address my needs and what I want to see change so why should I really vote anyways......

That's what spoiling your ballot is for. It's the only way to display that you want to vote, but you dislike all the options.

Hondaracer 05-05-2017 03:26 PM

The "anyone but" vote really pisses me off.

kr4l 05-05-2017 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8840013)
I get that she's shit, but just voting for any idiot who isn't her is a great way to and up with someone even more useless in office. If you're voting to replace someone then for the love of everything ensure you're replacing them with someone who is actually better.



That's what spoiling your ballot is for. It's the only way to display that you want to vote, but you dislike all the options.

Exactly.

Although krusty is shit, NDP will be far far worse imo. Just seeing my friends in Alberta all bitch and complain about what is going on there is ridiculous.

Mr.HappySilp 05-05-2017 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8840023)
The "anyone but" vote really pisses me off.

why not? people did that in the federal election. I voted last Sun. Parents went Liberal coz the guy had a Chinese name. I voted NPD.

MelonBoy 05-05-2017 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kr4l (Post 8840034)
Exactly.

Although krusty is shit, NDP will be far far worse imo. Just seeing my friends in Alberta all bitch and complain about what is going on there is ridiculous.


How so.. Alberta has beening doing great until recently.
Krusty has done nothing but bone us up the ass. I haven't seen any solid benefits to our economy other then all these BS make it look nice short term moves (but all the crap comes tumbling later)

Imo. I would rather let someone new "potentially" fuck me in the ass. Then voting for someone who I KNOW will keep fucking me


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