Lynn Beyak booted from conservative caucus for 'racist' webpage comments

[68style]

Wow... where does it end?

Germany better give itself to Israel pronto...... Spain better reconcile with the Aztecs... oh wait there aren't any left to reconcile with.

Likewise for the poor dinosaurs, victims of climate change... smaller reptiles and mammals from that era must be living with a lot of survivor guilt.

[CharlesInCharge]

My ZX was broken into in the middle of the night some years back... so if youre allowed to shoot and kill Native Americans breaking into ones car... how am I supposed to recognize one when its pitch black, specially that Asians and whites can look the same?
Canada should adopt a badge system like Hitler used on the Jews... but instead tattoo it on peoples foreheads.

[68style]

... Wut?

[CharlesInCharge]

You can go to jail for shooting an intruder into your Canadian home correct?
But shooting a Native American stealing ones car is okay?

[welfare]

Why are people making this out to be a racial issue? What evidence is there that it has anything to do with anything? Because people have different skin colours, that alone constitutes racism now?

If a native gets shot and killed, unintentionally, by another native, no one outside their circle gives a flying fuck. Not the native communities. Not the media. Not the government.

And faster than you can utter the words "white racism", the power grab:
'We have questions and we want answers': Boushie family in Ottawa to meet with ministers - Politics - CBC News

"I'm here to speak with the government — [to tell them] that the way they're treating us, it's not right," Alvin Baptiste said.

"They're asking for reconciliation and we're willing to work with the Canadian government ... and change the laws that are out there. They're not working for the First Nations people at all."

The family members are expected to be joined Monday by Kim Jonathan, first vice chief of the Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations.

"We've seen such disrespect and disregard for Colten's life," Jonathan said Saturday. "We're not going to ask for a meeting, we're not going to request to be heard — we will be heard."

[CharlesInCharge]

Originally Posted by welfare

Why are people making this out to be a racial issue? What evidence is there that it has anything to do with anything? Because people have different skin colours, that alone constitutes racism now?

So you agree with the verdict?

[welfare]

I believe there wasn't significant evidence to prove second degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt, yes.
And I don't believe race had anything to do with the verdict or his death.

Do I think it's right that this kid died? No.
But do I think it would have been right for the shooter to be thrown a life sentence? Given the facts, no.

And I find it EXTREMELY irresponsible that our prime minister and minister of justice have responded by essentially saying that our justice system has failed them.

[welfare]

Let's try looking at it with the script flipped.
Exact same scenario, but Boushie is the shooter and Stanley is the guy who pulled into his farm drunk as hell with his friends trying to steal his ATV before attempting to flee and crashing into his car.
Gun goes off during a struggle to shut the vehicle off.

How do you think the Boushie family would feel about their son receiving a life sentence for that? Would they think justice was served?

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys

This is why #indigenous #people must define our own #future and #selfdetermination --- This is why we must define #reconciliation

What the fuck does that even mean? Looks like a bunch of buzz words that have nothing to do with what happened.

[CharlesInCharge]

Originally Posted by welfare

I believe there wasn't significant evidence to prove second degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt, yes.
And I don't believe race had anything to do with the verdict or his death.

Do I think it's right that this kid died? No.
But do I think it would have been right for the shooter to be thrown a life sentence? Given the facts, no.

So if you had a brother and he was broken down in Abbotsford and tried to steal gas from a shed but was shot to death... with the shooter claiming it was an accident. You wouldnt want a murder charge? On top of that as your brother was shot inside his car and the police leave the door open to the elements for the "rain" to wash away the horrific blood scene inside. That is fine and dandy to you?

[donk.]

[68style]

I don’t know about welfare's Fictitious brother, but I know my fictitious brother would just knock on the door and politely ask if he could buy some gas or get assistance of some sort. Or he’d have the Saskatchewan equivalent of BCAA or he’d just call me or my parents and say he broke down and ask for a hand.

How about this? Would you be okay with your fictitious father allowing someone to steal his ATV and threaten his family including your mother with a gun and then ram into his car parked in his driveway Charles? Honey call the police and let’s hope this ends well!

Moron. Nobody in a live situation gets the benefit of knowing how it turns out afterward to go back and decide what the best way to handle it was.

[RRxtar]

Stop dwelling in the "he was there looking for gas". Pretty good chance that was a made up excuse.

[CharlesInCharge]

I made that gas part up as an example see if the value of stolen item made a difference.

Originally Posted by 68style

I don’t know about welfare's Fictitious brother, but I know my fictitious brother would just knock on the door and politely ask if he could buy some gas or get assistance of some sort. Or he’d have the Saskatchewan equivalent of BCAA or he’d just call me or my parents and say he broke down and ask for a hand.

How about this? Would you be okay with your fictitious father allowing someone to steal his ATV and threaten his family including your mother with a gun and then ram into his car parked in his driveway Charles? Honey call the police and let’s hope this ends well!

Moron. Nobody in a live situation gets the benefit of knowing how it turns out afterward to go back and decide what the best way to handle it was.

So this really comes down to the price of the ATV, a material possession worth what $300? used, is worth raising ones gun to the back of an offenders head and blowing it up. Nice set of morals you were raised with. I think you would fit in fine in the concrete jungles of Brazil and Honduras were a human life is worthless.
Please spare me the family threatened when the son and father were wielding a hammer and gun when the suspects were leaving.

[Bouncing Bettys]

^What evidence is there that he raised the gun to the back of the head and pulled the trigger? The testimony of intoxicated witnesses who admitted to lying to police?

The fact that he fired multiple shots into the air not only demonstrates an attempt to scare them off rather than use force, it explains how a hangfire might occur and why the shell casing was deformed in such a way. Reasonable doubt has been established.

[CharlesInCharge]

Where were the entry and exit wounds?
Did the father or son also enter the car... is that why the police left the doors open for the "rain" to wash evidence out and tow the car away to some public tow yard some hours after the incident so the victims family couldnt do their own investigation?

How do you also know he fired in the air?

[68style]

^
the only fact is that you don’t know what happened Charles.

Nobody does. But for some reason you think you do and you’re judging all of us now based on what you think is the true sequence of events... even though you actually have no idea.

Have fun with that.

Nobody wants anyone to die, but those moron kids set about stealing from someone and they have a right to protect their property and if something terrible happens to the person stealing/threatening/damaging, well, they pretty much signed up for it the second they came in with bad intentions. Stupid decisions sometimes result in death.

[CharlesInCharge]

So why cant I kill someone if they steal from my Burnaby backyard? Its like a certain class of people are given special privileges of law over others.
There was a home invasion in Coquitlam recently... had the parents with their preteen girl used a weapon to kill one of the 3 male suspects, they would go to prison.

State the facts that you believe to be true in the case that goes against what Ive said.

[68style]

You’re incorrect about your scenarios. Where’s your proof that you’d go to jail if someone with a gun broke into your house and you shot them? You wouldn’t... so I have no idea what your point is, you’re only proving yourself wrong. And yes, I’d say people who obey the law are given special privileges over people that break it? What’s your point?

You apparently haven’t read the full accounts where these kids had a gun... they wrecked the gun beating on the ATV (if I remember correctly), but how are you supposed to know a gun is real or broken or a fake toy?

It’s like you didn’t even bother to read the details and now you’re just spouting off fake scenarios here.

[CharlesInCharge]

So youre saying they pointed a gun at the father before he shot the 22 year olds brain out?

Heres the first random case one I found for shooting a home invader;
2016, Newfoundland man up on murder charges for shooting home invader
?I?m glad he shot him?: Newfoundland man up on murder charges for shooting home invader | National Post

[welfare]

Charles, why do you think Stanley is guilty of intentionally killing the Boushie kid?
What concrete evidence is there?

[CharlesInCharge]

How about emptying half the prisons in Canada because everyone claims it was an accident, they didnt mean to do it.

[welfare]

Concrete evidence, Charles.

[CharlesInCharge]

Whats your evidence? White is right? They are gods chosen people?

[welfare]

You don't need evidence to prove innocence, Charles.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution