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320icar 02-27-2018 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 8890778)
Not really. When the guy left the first time they should have just locked the door. Looks like the guy took around $100. The amount of damage they caused is more then $100 and they almost died.

Uh, yeah that’s exactly what I said. Great instinct to fight, poor execution

underscore 02-27-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8890846)
How do you know the security system didn't malfunction?

According to the report I saw they used it incorrectly.

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8890846)
They got him, didn't they?

By total fluke, they were just as likely to end up killing themselves in the process. 0:58 they fire a shot out the door (I'm guessing into a street?), with like no clue what's beyond the guy. Then 1:12, 1:25, 1:30, 1:33, 1:43, 1:54, the mother or daughter is pointing a gun at the other with a finger on the trigger. 1:35 the daughter fires at the guy while he's struggling with the mother. A Canadian firearms course covers all this, and would fail you if you did anything like that.

These are complete morons who have no business handling a firearm, let alone owning the, yet in good ol' Murica it's not a problem and they seem to think they're capable of using them properly when they aren't even fucking close.

SkinnyPupp 02-28-2018 01:52 AM

Obviously poor execution, but how can you not show support for these women defending themselves?

The key here is, learn how to use your fucking gun if you're going to own one!

Main point would be to have it on you if you intend to protect yourself with it.

Also maybe something with more than 6 rounds?

Oh and dump the damn whole thing into the guy if he's still coming at you!

Crazy video

freakshow 02-28-2018 08:59 AM

you think if that women took one firearms course 20 years ago, she would have reacted any differently as adrenaline is pumping through her body and she is fighting for her life?

MarkyMark 02-28-2018 09:13 AM

If a gun is something you're going to possibly use to protect your life in your day to day job wouldn't you want to perhaps know how to use it properly, instead of learning the bare minimum?

Bouncing Bettys 02-28-2018 09:31 AM

Training can only get you so far, experience is what counts. There are numerous examples in history where fresh, well trained, troops are bested by battle-tested soldiers in battle.

MarkyMark 02-28-2018 09:42 AM

Sure but it's pretty obvious her training was "this is the trigger" and nothing more. Going to a shooting range and getting comfortable with the weapon would help immensely.

CharlesInCharge 02-28-2018 09:45 AM

The US is the self sustaining (+ its client funded states, isreal, egypt, jordan, kenya, nigeria, columbia, south africa... ect) military wing of the ZioAmerican empire.
Its peoples brains are manipulated as infants to retard its 5 regions then supplement it with a cocktail of stimulants. School shootings are the extreme results.

So people fall into two groups, tax payers or soldiers.

Buffett; Some People Don't Fit In The Economy, We'll Send Them Off To Afghanistan. 3:30+mark
youtube.com/watch?v=IULD_Om4y-A

The brainwashing and limited IQ of the western world is why people savagely die for a few hundred dollars worth as seen with this other store shooting recently.

Security Guard Shoots Robbers Holding Up A 7-11 With A Fake Gun! "Mines Is Real"
youtube.com/watch?v=UQzskI77vvI

With the female shooters, I believe they stupidly triggered the store door to be locked and confront the shooter... with the younger one almost shooting her own mom.

Hondaracer 02-28-2018 10:01 AM

Handguns are extremely hard to be accurate with even at relatively close range.

If you give an inexperienced person a shitty cheap gun they’d have a hard time hitting s dinner plate at 10 feet

Bitches shoulda got a wheel gun, only need 1 round to hit lol

RiceIntegraRS 02-28-2018 10:24 AM

Only in the USA where taking a firearms course is more valuable to you than your highschool diploma or speaking English.....

originalhypa 02-28-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8890908)
Handguns are extremely hard to be accurate with even at relatively close range

You said it man.
I just got into competitive pistol shooting called the steel challenge. 10 rds, minimum 9mm, 5 steel targets about 6m away. The quickest to hit all 5 targets wins.

Our best shooter did it in just over 2 seconds. But he is a damn good shot and practices often. I was just under 5 seconds, which is awesome for a rookie. But wouldn't cut it in real competition.

The bottom line is that it is very hard to hit a static target, let alone one that is moving. A 6" barrel doesn't offer much room for error.

Manic! 02-28-2018 01:13 PM

Another good guy/teacher with a gun.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/us/ge...ire/index.html

Hondaracer 02-28-2018 01:19 PM

lol, the states are so fucked

Manic! 02-28-2018 02:58 PM

Looks like someone was lying.
and good on Dicks sporting goods.

SkinnyPupp 02-28-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 8890899)
you think if that women took one firearms course 20 years ago, she would have reacted any differently as adrenaline is pumping through her body and she is fighting for her life?

If I was in her situation (American, needing to protect myself with a gun) I would be taking courses regularly to keep my main skills "automatic". Sure it won't beat "combat experience" but it will be better than almost having a tragic accident like they did!

$_$ 02-28-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8891000)
If I was in her situation (American, needing to protect myself with a gun) I would be taking courses regularly to keep my main skills "automatic". Sure it won't beat "combat experience" but it will be better than almost having a tragic accident like they did!

I'd try to get the fuck out the area where I'd constantly need to protect myself with a gun. I really don't want to live in an area where I'm constantly worrying about people packing heat ...

SkinnyPupp 02-28-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by $_$ (Post 8891011)
I'd try to get the fuck out the area where I'd constantly need to protect myself with a gun. I really don't want to live in an area where I'm constantly worrying about people packing heat ...

Not everyone has that privilege. Not even white people if you can believe it

Lomac 02-28-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by $_$ (Post 8891011)
I'd try to get the fuck out the area where I'd constantly need to protect myself with a gun. I really don't want to live in an area where I'm constantly worrying about people packing heat ...

Not always an option.

underscore 02-28-2018 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8890872)
Obviously poor execution, but how can you not show support for these women defending themselves?

Looking at that video they were more of a risk to themselves than the robber was. That's a pretty bad defense.

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Originally Posted by freakshow (Post 8890899)
you think if that women took one firearms course 20 years ago, she would have reacted any differently as adrenaline is pumping through her body and she is fighting for her life?

ANYTHING would be an improvement for those two.

freakshow 03-01-2018 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8891000)
If I was in her situation (American, needing to protect myself with a gun) I would be taking courses regularly to keep my main skills "automatic". Sure it won't beat "combat experience" but it will be better than almost having a tragic accident like they did!

Completely agree.. I think one of the most practical and reasonable gun controls laws that could be passed would be a PAL-like system, a relatively easy to pass license that you have to renew every 5 years

originalhypa 03-02-2018 08:20 AM

You don't actually have to fire a gun during your licensing. It wasn't until I really got into the tactical side that we started doing training with live fire. The first few times you're around live fire training or competing is pretty crazy. I could never imagine what an actual gunfight would be like.

Mr.Money 03-02-2018 05:50 PM

Seem's america is keeping this one under wraps.

Teen took a gun to Ohio school for a mass killing but killed himself | Daily Mail Online

Manic! 03-02-2018 06:55 PM

and this one: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKCN1GE23F

SiRV 03-07-2018 06:39 PM

Another small school shooting in Birmingham

welfare 03-07-2018 09:06 PM

I wonder if a lot of these school shootings don't have to do with massive underreporting of crimes in k-12 to create deceptively low statistics.
Usually rewarded with government grants.


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