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I support making it a harder to get your gun license. That said, once I've proven that I'm not a nutbar, I'd appreciate it if I was left alone.
For the record, I also think they should be retesting drivers after a certain time period.
To piggyback on this, like retesting drivers after x-years, PAL renewals should also include occasional extra background checks or random psych eval's or something. It's simple enough to prove you're not a crazy person one year, but five years later is a lot of time for things to change.
Passing legislation based off of single cases is completely illogical.
Show the correlation between legal gun owners and violent crime.
Show the evidence.
Evidence is right in front of you.
Correlation between legal gun owners and violent crime....
Which country in the world has the most legal gun owners?
Which country in the world has the most related gun deaths?
Evidence is right in front of you.
Correlation between legal gun owners and violent crime....
Which country in the world has the most legal gun owners?
Which country in the world has the most related gun deaths?
1) USA
2) Not the USA
Yes, the USA has a fucked up gun culture (especially when compared to other countries like Canada or Australia) but there's far more at play than just accessibility to firearms.
6 years, sure. 10 years, ok. But going back the person's entire life? That's harsh. A 65y/o who made a mistake in his twenties would be scrutinized.
And besides, what does that even do to the thugs who are the real reason the homicide rates have increased the past few years?
Legal gun owners aren't the reason the rates have increased.
Aside from the tracking measures, this legislation does nothing to curb the cause of increased gang violence. Or their ability to obtain firearms. Just more liberal lies. Smoke and mirrors.
How about focusing on the criminals? The ones causing these homicides. Why not impose stiffer mandatory penalties for those caught with unregistered firearms?
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
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Evidence is right in front of you.
Correlation between legal gun owners and violent crime....
Which country in the world has the most legal gun owners?
Which country in the world has the most related gun deaths?
Which country in the world has the strictest gun control?
Which country in the world has the highest murder rate?
Jamaica
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
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the government of Michael Manley attempted to restore order by granting broad new law enforcement powers in the Suppression of Crime Act and the Gun Court Act.
The Suppression of Crime Act allowed the police and the military to work together in a novel way to disarm the people: both soldiers could seal off entire neighbourhoods and policemen could systematically search the houses inside for weapons without a warrant.[3]
Prime Minister Michael Manley expressed his determination to take stronger action against firearms, predicting that "It will be a long war. No country can win a war against crime overnight, but we shall win. By the time we have finished with them, Jamaican gunmen will be sorry they ever heard of a thing called a gun."[2] In order to win this war, Manley believed it necessary to disarm the whole public: "There is no place in this society for the gun, now or ever."
Some areas of Jamaica, particularly cities such as Kingston, Montego Bay and Spanish Town, experience high levels of crime and violence.[1] Jamaica has had one of the highest murder rates in the world for many years, according to United Nations estimates.[2] Former Prime Minister P. J. Patterson described the situation as "a national challenge of unprecedented proportions
When Jamaica gained independence in 1962, the murder rate was 3.9 per 100,000 inhabitants, one of the lowest in the world.[4] In 2005, Jamaica had 1,674 murders for a murder rate of 58 per 100,000 people.[5] That year, Jamaica had the highest murder rate in the world.
Huh. So prior to the draconian gun laws of the crime suppression act, their murder rates were among the lowest in the world.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
And just to clarify, I'm not necessarily saying gun control increases murder rates.
Countries all have differing backgrounds and various dissimilar conditions. That was kinda the point.
The thing that pisses me off is the manipulative Canadian state run liberal media is riding the coattails of America's gun culture to drum up hysteria here to impose laws that divert attention from the criminals causing the spike in murders.
Typical bait and switch smoke and mirrors.
Create a 'problem'. Then unveil the 'fix'.
JT reaching. In the wrong direction, like usual.
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
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On the top you have some person laughing because kids are upset that they have to carry there ID and use clear backpacks. Because school shootings are funny.
Then you David Hogg a person welfare probable thinks is a crisis actor being interviewed by CBSN looking mad. An interview I bet has nothing to do with clear backpacks and ID's.
In the third row you have what the meme claims is a story from newswire but did newswire purplish that story?
On the bottom you have a statement by Christopher long. Some random person that probable does not even exist.
The whole thing was probable made by a Russian troll farm.
So whats the point of the meme?
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If you don't think it's sad as hell that kids have to start wearing see-through backpacks to school, then you must be sick in the head Zebra.
I can't imagine what it feels like for kids nowadays in the States to go to school thinking about this type of shit.
I remember when we were kids, the main concern were child molesters trying to lure you into their car with candy. Now these kids need to worry about someone running into their school with an AR? All because some gun-toting idiots get their jollies off stroking that long metal dick?
That meme is a perfect example why this whole discussion online is a waste of time. You guys find more comedy in kids having to adopt translucent backpacks to school, then the utter sorrow of that very fact.
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Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
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