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03-07-2022, 11:56 AM
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#401 | | Hypa owned my ass at least once
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I'm in exactly the same boat, having run a similar cost of ownership / break even point comparison. With my pos but generally bulletproof Japanese shxtbox, the amount of driving I do means my break even point is somewhere between 15 - 20 years, depending on how I fudge the estimates. With current gas prices, I guess the timeline could shift maybe 5 years earlier?
So until EVs become significantly cheaper to buy, I don't really see myself getting into one. Quote:
Originally Posted by 68style  I'll play the math game a bit though, it was brought up that anything but a shitbox for $2k is a bad deal compared to an EV (we will say Tesla 3 so there's some point of comparison).
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I'm unsure what government rebates are currently available on Tesla's, but I don't know that there are any on the current priced SR since it's $68990 now and beyond the cost threshold I believe. $68990 plus taxes is a bit over $77000 and there's a bit extra on top because it's past the new luxury tax threshold as well, but I won't include it because I'm lazy. At a purchase price of $7500 + taxes ($8400 all in) and annual running costs of $3316.50, it would take me 20 years of driving my Lexus to reach just the initial purchase price of a Tesla Model 3 SR. This is not even accounting for the fact it does cost money to run a Tesla as well nor does it factor in financing costs which are not insignificant -- you'd be buying it outright in this scenario. | | 
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03-07-2022, 12:04 PM
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#402 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by 320icar LLLOOOOOLLLLL holy fuck over $100,000 for an x3 you’d have to be fucking menta | Yeah its pretty nuts..
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03-07-2022, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 320icar Not meaning to call you out, but I’m curious. So that’s the 3rd time you’ve brought up us being too passive and not standing up for ourselves. So what have you done? Have you called your local MP, or organized a Facebook gathering of car guys at the local refinery/distribution? Or just complained on RS like the rest of us without any actual action. | Funnily enough my brother actually works within the hierarchy of the Values and Ethics Code for the Public Sector in Ottawa. So as a policy wonk, much of my discussion on this very subject has been with him.
In terms of local MP, no. Such pressure takes more than one singular person, me writing my local MP will not change current course, not a chance.
You're totally right though, instead of being a keyboard warrior, I should put my money where my mouth is, somehow writing a letter to Terry Beech doesn't seem like it would elicit much of anything.
Do you have any suggestions?
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03-07-2022, 12:06 PM
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#404 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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I mean you can get older ones for $10 to $20K used leafs, volts?
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03-07-2022, 12:23 PM
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#405 | | I told him no, what y'all do?
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wouldn't the fear be how readily available batteries for those vehicles are, and if they are, for how long? or are they plug 'n play friendly with existing cars on the market?
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03-07-2022, 12:26 PM
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I am so glad my WFH is permanent. I can't imagine paying so much in gas and then parking. I feel bad for everyone who has to do this, for a lot it is definitely the difference between food or fuel.
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03-07-2022, 12:27 PM
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#407 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Originally Posted by 320icar LLLOOOOOLLLLL holy fuck over $100,000 for an x3 you’d have to be fucking menta | Try a fully loaded Lexus NX450h+
North of 90 grand after taxes 
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03-07-2022, 12:48 PM
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#408 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Originally Posted by nabs I am so glad my WFH is permanent. I can't imagine paying so much in gas and then parking. I feel bad for everyone who has to do this, for a lot it is definitely the difference between food or fuel. | Same here glad I'm perm WFH, it's also made me look at life at a different perspective, and not even look for a higher paying job at this point. I did the math, even if I got a new job that offered me $10,000 more but having to commute to office, my net overall gain is minimal that its not even worth switching. Mind you a $10,000 pay increase is quite substantial; however, once you factor in insurance, gas, etc, that $10,000 pay increase isn't much.
$10,000 gross. $7,000 net taxes, less your car expenses say $4,000 a year. Your really only up $3,000.
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03-07-2022, 01:30 PM
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#409 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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The Alberta government will help hard-hit consumers by pausing the collection of its 13-cent per litre provincial fuel tax on April 1, Premier Jason Kenney said Monday.
"This massive tax relief is a response to skyrocketing costs at the pump and is going to provide Albertans with the relief that they need when the cost of everything is going up," Kenney told a news conference.
"Albertans told us they needed relief from rising costs. We've heard them loud and clear. And that's why today we are taking this bold action to soften the blow of inflation, especially on the cost of energy."
The pause in tax collection will apply to gasoline and diesel fuel. The change also will apply to the four-cent per litre provincial fuel tax on marked gasoline and marked diesel.
The pause will remain in effect as long as the benchmark price for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil remains above $90 US per barrel, Kenney said. Collection of the provincial fuel tax would resume when WTI prices fall below $80 US, he said.
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03-07-2022, 01:32 PM
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#410 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by fsy82 My wife and I were seriously considering getting a Hybrid and i went to the BMW dealer to look at the X3 hybrid. Nice car and all but the total cost with all taxes came out to $101,000. Mind you we like our current Q7 and would like something comparable. We walked out and figured we'd rather wait for more variety in the Hybrid/EV scene and that were not ready to make monthly 1,000 car payments. Our current vehicles have no debt on them so another $50 for fill-up won't hurt that much | How'd you manage 100k? A X5 phev with some options is around that ballpark (93k + shipping + tax). I think I can get a X5 out the door for roughly 100k. Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro7r Same here glad I'm perm WFH, it's also made me look at life at a different perspective, and not even look for a higher paying job at this point. I did the math, even if I got a new job that offered me $10,000 more but having to commute to office, my net overall gain is minimal that its not even worth switching. Mind you a $10,000 pay increase is quite substantial; however, once you factor in insurance, gas, etc, that $10,000 pay increase isn't much.
$10,000 gross. $7,000 net taxes, less your car expenses say $4,000 a year. Your really only up $3,000. | 10k gross is not that much money after taxes. It's not really enough to get me to make a move as I gain roughly $500 a month after taxes. It's not nothing but if I am happy with a current job, it'll take more than that to entice me for a move, plus if it means I lose WFH, that's an extra bit more to cover my time loss commuting and transportation costs.
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03-07-2022, 01:48 PM
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#411 | | I bringith the lowerballerith
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Originally Posted by JDMDreams I mean you can get older ones for $10 to $20K used leafs, volts? | My buddy got a used leaf from a family friend. First generation and the battery is shot already. He gets roughly 50kms per charge. I rather spend money on a used corolla or civic than a used electric vehicle.
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03-07-2022, 01:53 PM
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#412 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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What about my situation, with 3 cars (all paid off):
1) 2019 ICE weekend car (keep)
2) 2005 Honda Pilot, wife uses this to haul the kids around and run errands. Maybe ~$400 gas/month?
3) 2000 Honda Civic, I drive this to work <15km each way, 3 days a week
Is it time to replace the SUV with something similar, but EV? I have a 2-car garage.
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03-07-2022, 03:10 PM
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#413 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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03-07-2022, 03:21 PM
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#414 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Originally Posted by Traum I'm in exactly the same boat, having run a similar cost of ownership / break even point comparison. With my pos but generally bulletproof Japanese shxtbox, the amount of driving I do means my break even point is somewhere between 15 - 20 years, depending on how I fudge the estimates. With current gas prices, I guess the timeline could shift maybe 5 years earlier?
So until EVs become significantly cheaper to buy, I don't really see myself getting into one. | Now that I'm a 10 min walk to my kid's daycare we drive about 600km/mo so while I'd love to go EV (for a whole bunch of reasons) I can't justify it financially. Sure, I can sell my RDX for close-ish to what I paid but it'd take me years to break even on a EV6/Ioniq5 ($63k all in for a loaded on versus selling my RDX for about $45k).
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03-07-2022, 06:01 PM
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#415 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Originally Posted by Gumby What about my situation, with 3 cars (all paid off):
1) 2019 ICE weekend car (keep)
2) 2005 Honda Pilot, wife uses this to haul the kids around and run errands. Maybe ~$400 gas/month?
3) 2000 Honda Civic, I drive this to work <15km each way, 3 days a week
Is it time to replace the SUV with something similar, but EV? I have a 2-car garage. | how much to insure the civic? sell the civic then bike to work/drive there 6 times a month per pleasure rate class
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03-07-2022, 06:07 PM
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#416 | | Revscene.net has a homepage?!
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Originally Posted by Acura604 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...tion-1.6375882
The Alberta government will help hard-hit consumers by pausing the collection of its 13-cent per litre provincial fuel tax on April 1, Premier Jason Kenney said Monday.
"This massive tax relief is a response to skyrocketing costs at the pump and is going to provide Albertans with the relief that they need when the cost of everything is going up," Kenney told a news conference.
"Albertans told us they needed relief from rising costs. We've heard them loud and clear. And that's why today we are taking this bold action to soften the blow of inflation, especially on the cost of energy."
The pause in tax collection will apply to gasoline and diesel fuel. The change also will apply to the four-cent per litre provincial fuel tax on marked gasoline and marked diesel.
The pause will remain in effect as long as the benchmark price for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil remains above $90 US per barrel, Kenney said. Collection of the provincial fuel tax would resume when WTI prices fall below $80 US, he said. | When does BC follow suit...
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03-07-2022, 06:08 PM
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#417 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Average price for gas is Alberta is 158.9. lets see what the price is after the 1st.
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03-07-2022, 07:23 PM
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#418 | | Performance Moderator
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Kenney will literally do anything to get votes right now. Like, I have no doubt he’d eat a cock if it meant re-election for him.
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03-07-2022, 11:19 PM
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#419 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Originally Posted by Kilinim When does BC follow suit... | Already said on the news that BC has no intention of removing the fuel surcharges
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03-07-2022, 11:21 PM
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#420 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Just dipped down to point roberts shell for that 92 octane. Filled my car (65L tank) and 2 20L jerry cans for a hair under $150usd. Once you do the conversion for the total of 96L it was about $2.00/L. The shell in Ladner is $2.399/L so in total I saved $30 or something. Better than nothing I suppose…
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03-08-2022, 06:46 AM
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#421 | | I *heart* Revscene.net very Muchie
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^^ shell and Chevron has always been more $$ I'm poor so I only get 92 from USA gasoline or speed way express. (Old mobile before they rebranded)  | |
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03-08-2022, 07:01 AM
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#422 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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When I’ve got to start lugging Jerry cans around in my trunk is when I say I can no longer afford to drive.. lol
Wife and I are down to 1 vehicle albeit gas guzzling G37. She only drives about 8 minutes from EV to downtown for work but I’d prefer her to drive and pay for parking than take the bus. She’s now kinda figured tgough if she can find an Evo car it’s actually far cheaper to dump an Evo off downtown then drive our own vehicle. So yea the war on vehicles as a whole is coming fast and furious
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03-08-2022, 07:46 AM
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#423 | | RS.net, helping ugly ppl have sex since 2001
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Point Roberts' gas stations are gonna have even more business with more BC residents filling up gas there.
No PCR test needed to go to P.R. to fill up gas and return home. -just need to have your Arrive Can app ready for CBSA officers. Sweet!
Global News had a news segment yesterday about more BC residents filling up gas at the stations in Point Roberts.
The reporter mentioned that people pay on average about $1.55 CAD per litre at Point Roberts stations.
When the reporter on Global News asked a lady filling up gas on her Ford Expedition about how much money she was saving, she said that she saves about 89 bucks per fill up at Point Roberts.
One of the staff at that Point Roberts gas station said that she noticed more BC residents for the past three weeks filling up gas at her station.
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03-08-2022, 08:20 AM
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#424 | | Performance Moderator
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You can still get randomly selected for a take-home antigen test which is not the most fun thing in the world to set up and complete.
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03-08-2022, 08:54 AM
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#425 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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what a massive joke to still have random testing at boundary bay
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