Why are they raiding ICBC again, $110 isn't even enough for a months worth of insurance or gas. :okay: they are just gonna Jack up premiums again then :suspicious:

we wont see it till MAY !


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I'm pretty okay with this, it's better than nothing. But I hope people with EVs aren't eligible.

Rebate my ass. We know they are going to balance their fucking numbers with some stupid premium increase along the lines of due to increase in accidents etc. There's never any good coming out of ICBC. They make it sound like they are helping us, but in reality they are nothing but bunch of thieves that took a lot of our money, then give us back a little bit of the money they raided our pockets with.

What about plug-in hybrids?

Hmm that's a good point. My gut reaction is yes since the vehicles can consume gasoline, but it's possible that the drivers can get around on electricity alone. Not sure how ICBC classifies them on insurance papers..

A tank of gas :lol

I voted for Horgan, but damn, this is pretty embarrassing.

Not only that, but I thought ICBC was a dumpster fire 3 years ago? Seems a little hypocritical to use their coffers to give out these rebates for votes, especially when we attacked the BC Liberals for doing the same.

So how does everyone feel about what Alberta did and drop their tax on fuel? I think it was generally looked at favourbly from a driver's perspective?

If you take the $110 and divide it on a /litre savings basis which was 13 cents in the case of Alberta. That's 110/.13= 846. So we're essentially dropping the tax with a max cap of 846 litres.

If you have a sipper, or reduce your habits and don't use up 846 litres you're technically ahead as you'd have to exceed that amount to reach the same "savings" had you been located next door. You'd get the rebate regardless?

Feel this has the added benefit of reducing the possibility of gas stations just immediately pocketing any drop in fuel tax by increasing the price.

Don't know, just my counter perspective on the knee jerk outrage.
Can't really change the physics of supply and demand. I feel the policy isnt as pathetic as it's made out to be?

Maybe the marketing and PR message should have been structured more positively. Isn't our tax actually less like 10 cents here in BC? Come out and say we're dropping the tax on every drivers tax for the next 1000 litres! To prevent gas stations from purging those savings we'll send drivers a cheque instead of leaving it to the pump price. Shit they should hire me to do this.

$110 for ICE only, right? Or would that be discrimination against EV's?

No wait ... we gotta help and support EV drivers.

*edit* there must be a better solution, yes? Are global gas prices all the same and the price for consumer consists of subsidies or surcharges?

This is fucking stupid. Absolutely fucking idiotic. No doubt my insurance will go up next year, and $110 doesn’t even cover 1 tank of gas for my car. And this is suppose to be a one time thing? And all those fucking Tesla’s in Richmond/Vancouver also get it?

Hold on…

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Gov confirmed, EV's get it too.

EV drivers are also eligible for the gas price relief payment? Makes no sense.

That will fill 3/4 of my tank. Useless.

Thanks for the half tank of gas Horgan, problem solved.

This is exactly how I look at the issue as well. I had a look at my gas usage last year, and on my primary vehicle, I ended up using around 900L of gas. Averaging things out, it worked out to a ~12¢/L savings. It isn't a lot, but I'll gladly take it.

The only insulting part is -- EV owners also get the rebate, and that just makes no sense. It's branded as a fxxking gas rebate, so why is the NDP reimbursing EV owners? (IMO, plug-in hybrid owners should get a smaller rebate, just like how commercial vehicle owners are getting a larger rebate.)

As an additional note, I think Hulk Horgan and the NDP have failed to highlight the important difference between this ICBC rebate VS how the BC Libs used to raid the ICBC bank account to pad up the provincial government's annual fiscal reports. With the BC Libs, it was taking ICBC money to make the provincial numbers look good. With this ICBC rebate, car owners are getting money send back directly into their own pockets. IMO, that is a huge, HUGE difference, but somehow a lot of people don't see it this way.

The missed opportunity (to highlight this difference) is a huge mis-step by the NDP because they are damaging their own brand. The rescue of ICBC from the BC Libs-induced financial dumpster fire was one of the highlight success stories of the NDP government. By allowing people to form the misconception that the NDP is raiding ICBC's coffers just like the Liberals were, they are doing themselves a huge dis-favour.

To echo some of the above, the point is relieving the DIFFERENCE in the gas price increase, not to pay for tanks of gas.

Assuming we are accounting for a 10 cent premium per litre (e.g. 1.90/l to 2.00/lr), assuming an avg tank is 50 litres, thats $5 per fill-up premium. $110 would cover more than 20 fill-ups which I think is more than reasonable.

Even if you double the price difference to 20 cents (e.g. 1.80/l to 2.00/l) thats 10 fill-ups it covers, which is 5 months assuming bi-weekly fill-ups.

I am fine with this, and expected WAY less from the gov't.

Sauce?

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stolen from FB - i chuckled

Horgan and his cronies expect a 110 dollar rebate to help create more goodwill among voters in BC.

More BS from politicians. Giving me a crumb so that they can say that they did something so that they can entice me to vote for the NDP in the next election.

Hell no. The NDP just lost another vote in the next provincial election.

About 3 years ago I negotiated a company gas card in lieu of a raise that year, it's paid off.

And what are the liberals going to do?

not just EVs but it should not apply to pleasure use vehicles, IMO

should also be disbursed by a week or two, not may or june..the war started a month ago

kinda like them mandating health workers to be vaxxed AFTER delta & omicron has already ravaged through the population

When did I say that I would vote for the Liberals in light of the NDP's policies?

I might as well not vote in the next provincial election. As if anything changes for the better with a new provincial government.


Government gaslighting at its finest. Putting the blame on Russia for gas price increases when government policies of provincial gas taxes, carbon tax are some of the main factors in price increases.

Oh by the way, fare increases are happening this summer for public transit.

Increasing 5 cents on a one-way fare. Let's not pretend like that is going to break the bank here, and lets be real... 95% of RS wouldn't consider going on the bus even if fares were free.

The point that I am making is that this government, heck many governments, just give voters money in the form of rebates from one hand and take money back from you with another hand.

It's not even about RS nation taking public transit. It's about this provincial government not addressing the cost of living in BC.

For example, tell me how our government is trying to lower the cost of buying groceries for people, for families.

Gas price increases are just the tip of the iceberg in terms of living expenses in BC for many people.

BC = Bring Cash