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07-01-2018, 09:07 PM
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#251 | | ninja edits your posts without your knowledge
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Originally Posted by Jmac  Canucks had the second best record of any team in the league during Gillis' tenure (just shy of Chicago) and he got value out of most of those traded picks. Gillis' "bad at drafting" rep also influenced by lack of picks, always picking in the bottom 10 of the draft, and some historically bad drafts (2011 and 2012). Was Gillis supposed to not trade for depth for upcoming playoff runs?
Benning has somehow managed to never come into a draft with more than 7 picks despite finishing in the bottom 3 in 3 of his 4 seasons, but Gillis bled draft picks ... yeah, okay ... | I'm not saying that Gillis was a bad GM. I'm saying that a lot the building blocks were already there when he came in. He did a lot to attract some excellent players leading to the 2011 run and along with Gilman was a god damn wizard for contracts but also the Luongo fiasco. https://canucksarmy.com/2017/02/01/t...t-s-still-bad/
I'll be the first to say that the Benning/Linden duo messed up royally with this "rebuild on the fly" BS. I was howling from the get go that a true rebuild needed to take place. Whether this was Aquaman behind the scenes, I don't know. At the end of the day, it appears we finally have the green light to go ahead with a rebuild in its purest form.
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07-01-2018, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TjAlmeida Man, how are they going to afford marner, Mathews and nylander. Even if they flip one for a defender still a lot of money into 4 guys | Padawan GM (Dubas) outduels Master GM (Lamorello).
Anyone thinks this puts the Leafs into a higher echelon? Maybe advance to 2ND round and lose instead of losing in the first? I don't think this catapults them into like top 4 teams level ... they still have Gardiner on D.
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07-01-2018, 09:43 PM
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So we paid Baertschi almost $2 million more than Riley Nash over the same term? Why?
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07-01-2018, 10:18 PM
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#254 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Maybe because he didn't want to go here
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07-01-2018, 11:16 PM
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Well then...
I've checked out of next season.
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07-02-2018, 05:35 AM
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#256 | | (╯°□°）╯聽不到 ╮(°□°╮)
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James Neal to Calgary
5.75m AAV for 5 years
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07-02-2018, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseBlue Maybe because he didn't want to go here | That’s inconsequential, Baertschi isn’t worth $2 mill more than Riley Nash over 3 years... our salaries for our players are inflated over that of other teams with similar or better players
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07-02-2018, 08:25 AM
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#258 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Well I think you should apply to become a gm.
While we sit on this side thinking it's that easy, we are in for a rude awakening.
How do we know Nash didn't request for a 4 year deal if he signed with the Canucks?
At the very least, Baertschi wanted to be here and it was good that he was paid fairly. After all, gas prices and house prices are also over inflated
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07-02-2018, 09:52 AM
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What some of you fail to understand is that the majority of valuable players available during free agency have multiple offers. Why would a player want to come play for the Canucks if they have an offer to play with a much better team? Term and salary are all we can offer to obtain a player over another team... Do I like everything about the moves we made? Nope... Did we give out too much term? Yes... Do these moves fulfill a gap that the Canucks don't have with their current roster/prospects? Yes...
Our penalty kill was not very good last year and we had no grit. Our younger guys are going to need the space and time to succeed in this league. Last thing you want is for our younger guys to be treated like rag-dolls... You can all say what you want about the league transitioning to speed and skill over size, however you can't ice a bunch of smaller rookies and expect success. It just wont happen.
Over payment is inevitable in one way or another when you don't have a great team.
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07-02-2018, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseBlue Well I think you should apply to become a gm.
While we sit on this side thinking it's that easy, we are in for a rude awakening.
How do we know Nash didn't request for a 4 year deal if he signed with the Canucks?
At the very least, Baertschi wanted to be here and it was good that he was paid fairly. After all, gas prices and house prices are also over inflated | Wait...you're telling me that being a real GM isn't like NHL 18 where I can force a CPU trade?!  | |
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07-02-2018, 12:34 PM
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#261 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by mj_39 What some of you fail to understand is that the majority of valuable players available during free agency have multiple offers. Why would a player want to come play for the Canucks if they have an offer to play with a much better team? Term and salary are all we can offer to obtain a player over another team... Do I like everything about the moves we made? Nope... Did we give out too much term? Yes... Do these moves fulfill a gap that the Canucks don't have with their current roster/prospects? Yes...
Our penalty kill was not very good last year and we had no grit. Our younger guys are going to need the space and time to succeed in this league. Last thing you want is for our younger guys to be treated like rag-dolls... You can all say what you want about the league transitioning to speed and skill over size, however you can't ice a bunch of smaller rookies and expect success. It just wont happen.
Over payment is inevitable in one way or another when you don't have a great team. | So ... don't sign them ... sign guys on the secondary market/out of training camp to shorter-term, lower-priced deals.
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07-02-2018, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmac So ... don't sign them ... sign guys on the secondary market/out of training camp to shorter-term, lower-priced deals. | yea.. because the same people won't be complaining about those
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07-02-2018, 08:24 PM
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#263 | | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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It’s better to pay MORE in the short term than less on the long. 4 years is insane and it’s already bit us hard a few times. The term is the biggest issue and could have huge ramifications going forward
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07-02-2018, 11:06 PM
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#264 | | Rs has made me the woman i am today!
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Have faith in the system just like how people didn't think Vegas would do anything last season
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07-03-2018, 06:42 AM
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Leafs sign Subban ... Jordan from the LA Kings.
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07-03-2018, 08:46 AM
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^ He can make a club with Corrado as a jilted Canucks prospect who probably won’t hack it with the Leafs either
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07-03-2018, 11:43 AM
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#267 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Does PK want to follow the trend and come home, now that his brother is in the system? 
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07-03-2018, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys Does PK want to follow the trend and come home, now that his brother is in the system? | He still got 5 years left on his contract?
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07-03-2018, 12:29 PM
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#269 | | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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There's these things called trades?
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07-03-2018, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mj_39 Our penalty kill was not very good last year and we had no grit. Our younger guys are going to need the space and time to succeed in this league. Last thing you want is for our younger guys to be treated like rag-dolls... You can all say what you want about the league transitioning to speed and skill over size, however you can't ice a bunch of smaller rookies and expect success. It just wont happen. | See Exhibit A - 
Speaking of which, Yakupov to the KHL, what a bust.
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07-03-2018, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys There's these things called trades? | Lol what would leafs offer that Nashville would want?
Can’t believe Ottawa is going to trade Karlsson. If they suck next year, pick is going to benefit Colorado. Lol
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07-03-2018, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by highfive Lol what would leafs offer that Nashville would want? | Tavares
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07-04-2018, 01:08 AM
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Kinda said vanek won't be back. I know he wanted to play with the Sedins but he and brock had some serious chemistry.
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07-06-2018, 07:58 AM
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07-06-2018, 08:28 AM
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#275 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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