Canadian politics thread

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000

The lengths that people will go to disparage people with different opinions these days is just savage. If I were a multi-millionaire, you'd be kissing my feet.

Yea, I trust someone with a decade of education in a relevant field over someone with zero relevant education or experience who is spouting the same drivel people who are on the end of a shovel do. These people aren’t multi millionaires they are just competent, educated people? lol

I didnt like the vaccine, I didn’t like being coerced by a private company in order to keep my employment. But I’m also not so ignorant to ignore tangible data and science.

[68style]

My sisters a brain scan tech at a hospital, EKG’s are insanely hard to read it’s just a Mr.Messy of jagged lines to anyone without years of training but the number of people who she gets coming in telling her they already know what’s wrong or that she’s reading their results incorrectly is hilarious these days, keeps getting worse and worse too.

Even better when she writes them a prescription for anti-seizure medication and they ask her how much commission the drug companies are giving her (re: none), refuse to take them, then have a seizure while driving or in public and she has to revoke their license to drive and they go cry online about how their livelihood got taken away.

[bcrdukes]

Clearly that’s the government’s fault!

[spoon.ek9]

Some people need to crash and burn to learn their lesson. Others will crash and burn and STILL learn nothing. Doubling down on bullshit is far too common these days. We've literally had patients where we told them, if you leave Emergency there's a very good chance you'll die and they still choose to leave...

[Badhobz]

Good. Let them die. Less burden on society.

We fired a guy for not taking the vaccine. He cried to esdc and they ruled against him. Now he’s completely broke, wife divorced him and took the kids, and he’s living in some run down apartment paying child support.

Just a few years ago he was buying a new m5, got a house in east van and celebrating his 2nd kid.

The internet radicalized him. I met up with him a few months ago and he was a straight up mess. I couldn’t bare spending time with him anymore. Just depressing.

[supafamous]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...tory-mp-claims

Measles outbreak can be traced to Trudeau politicizing COVID vaccines, Tory MP claims

Michelle Rempel Garner said the downplaying of 'rare but serious' side effects spurred broader vaccine hesitancy, including for measles

Oh hey it's me, the guy who's in the tank for CBC posting a paywalled National Post article. The headline says it all though - Trudeau is the reason why there's a measles outbreak in Alberta just as inflation is Biden's fault.

Here's a non-paywalled version: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/oth...ms/ar-AA1IFj6X

[Hondaracer]

The disaster which was the Covid vaccine rollout in Canada certainly played into vaccine hesitancy. I don’t think there’s any question about that.

Couple that with people not being able to do their own unbiased research and here we are.

Kinda doubt countries that didn’t force people into a corner like Canada etc. did are seeing the same thing

Public health is in shambles but at least the education system is as well?

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

The disaster which was the Covid vaccine rollout in Canada certainly played into vaccine hesitancy. I don’t think there’s any question about that.

Couple that with people not being able to do their own unbiased research and here we are.

Kinda doubt countries that didn’t force people into a corner like Canada etc. did are seeing the same thing

Public health is in shambles but at least the education system is as well?

What exactly was the "disaster" with the rollout? We had a life threatening illness that was causing massive impacts across the economy and society and we needed to do a mass rollout as quickly as we could with a vaccine that used a new technology (mRNA).

Forcing people into a corner was the right thing to do. And people doing "unbiased research" - yeah, lol, sure. That's tinfoil hat talk.

[Hondaracer]

What do you mean?

When I say that what I’m saying is individuals realizing stuff like the MMR vaccine is proven safe and effective? I’m not saying some doctor saying the covid vaccine is poison to sell books.

Having a vaccine passport required to eat a Big Mac inside a filthy McDonald’s is what I’m talking about.

The disaster was in terrible messaging, poorly laid out information, and trotting out people like Tam and Henry to bear the brunt of the entire ordeal.

And he we are, with a measles epidemic? lol this didn’t happen in a vacuum.

[68style]

I also wasn't sure what you meant, but now I understand... yah the weird double standards of many of the requirements rolled out in various parts of the country defied logic in many instances and were flat out stupid in others.... in retrospect... easier to say looking back now I'm sure but could have been better.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by 68style

without years of training

AI will replace her no problem.

Machine pattern recognition > Human.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

I’m saying is individuals realizing stuff like the MMR vaccine is proven safe and effective?

You’re seriously equating the MMR vaccine to the COVID shot? That’s a wild oversimplification.
And what happened when top-level doctors raised red flags?

Dr. Robert Malone, one of the original developers of mRNA technology, questioned the safety and efficacy of the mass rollout. Result? De-platformed, censored, ridiculed — banned from Twitter for speaking his mind.

Dr. Peter McCullough, a respected cardiologist with hundreds of peer-reviewed publications, was stripped of academic titles and lost contracts just for advocating early treatment protocols and raising safety concerns.

Dr. Paul Alexander, former HHS adviser, called out data manipulation in government policy... he was forced out and publicly attacked.

British GP Dr. Sam White faced professional discipline after raising questions about informed consent and the government’s vaccine push. The UK’s General Medical Council tried to silence him.

Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a prominent British cardiologist, was publicly vilified and targeted for professional complaints after calling for the suspension of mRNA vaccines and linking them to excess heart-related deaths.

Even Pfizer’s own vaccine trial data, forced into the public by a FOIA lawsuit, showed over 1,200 deaths in the first 90 days post-vaccine release, and they still tried to keep it sealed for 75 years. That alone should’ve set off global alarm bells.

The same "experts" who now want you to forget the mandates, the passports, the job losses, the family separations... they were cheerleading for the biggest pharmaceutical cash grab in history, backed by full liability protection.

And now you want to act like it’s conspiracy theory to question that?

No. What’s insane is blind obedience in the face of suppressed data, silenced professionals, and unprecedented adverse reports.

[CivicBlues]

^So if an AI tells you to take the COVID MMR shot, will you do it?


Also Honda, Vaccine hesitancy was a thing way before COVID was even a thing. Health nuts in the Fraser Valley and Jesus freaks in the Interior were all bragging about how all their kids were au naturel for at least a couple decades beforehand. Now it's just all those chickens coming to roost.

[Hondaracer]

It’s obviously been amplified 1000 fold since

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000

You’re seriously equating the MMR vaccine to the COVID shot? That’s a wild oversimplification.
And what happened when top-level doctors raised red flags?

Dr. Robert Malone, one of the original developers of mRNA technology, questioned the safety and efficacy of the mass rollout. Result? De-platformed, censored, ridiculed — banned from Twitter for speaking his mind.

Dr. Peter McCullough, a respected cardiologist with hundreds of peer-reviewed publications, was stripped of academic titles and lost contracts just for advocating early treatment protocols and raising safety concerns.

Dr. Paul Alexander, former HHS adviser, called out data manipulation in government policy... he was forced out and publicly attacked.

British GP Dr. Sam White faced professional discipline after raising questions about informed consent and the government’s vaccine push. The UK’s General Medical Council tried to silence him.

Dr. Aseem Malhotra, a prominent British cardiologist, was publicly vilified and targeted for professional complaints after calling for the suspension of mRNA vaccines and linking them to excess heart-related deaths.

Even Pfizer’s own vaccine trial data, forced into the public by a FOIA lawsuit, showed over 1,200 deaths in the first 90 days post-vaccine release, and they still tried to keep it sealed for 75 years. That alone should’ve set off global alarm bells.

The same "experts" who now want you to forget the mandates, the passports, the job losses, the family separations... they were cheerleading for the biggest pharmaceutical cash grab in history, backed by full liability protection.

And now you want to act like it’s conspiracy theory to question that?

No. What’s insane is blind obedience in the face of suppressed data, silenced professionals, and unprecedented adverse reports.

So you quoted what, 6 people?

You want to quote the hundreds, thousands of others who reviewed data and figured it was safe?

Also correlation/causation. People like you always point to “there’s excess deaths!!!” Or even those immediate vaccine numbers, so what they vaccines a bunch of elderly people and a bunch of people died? Crazy? lol

Yea.. when you look at historical data, “excess deaths” increase year over year every year.

You dig a little deeper to anything and there’s more to it.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by supafamous

What exactly was the "disaster" with the rollout? We had a life threatening illness that was causing massive impacts across the economy and society and we needed to do a mass rollout as quickly as we could with a vaccine that used a new technology (mRNA).

Forcing people into a corner was the right thing to do. And people doing "unbiased research" - yeah, lol, sure. That's tinfoil hat talk.

life threatening illness

Bruh.

COVID was deadly mainly for the elderly.
IFR under 70: 0.05–0.1% (Dr. Ioannidis, WHO)
Under 40? 0.003% — lower than dying in a car crash or being struck by lightning (1 in 1.2 million/year, NOAA).

Pfizer’s own trial data (released by court order):
1,223 deaths and 42,000+ adverse events in 90 days.

Cleveland Clinic (2023): infection risk increased with each mRNA dose.
JAMA & NEJM: Myocarditis risk up to 28x higher in young men.
Basel study: 100% showed heart cell damage post-shot.

This wasn’t "safe or effective" for healthy young people...it was coerced.

[westopher]

How many people died from the shot compared to how many unvaccinated people died from Covid?
Also, no one actually cares anymore because we know substantially more unvaccinated people died from Covid than the shot. Like thousands of times more. Get on with your life and it will be MUCH easier for you.
Is it upsetting that bad things happened to people? Absolutely. Its also worse when way more bad things happen to way more people.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by westopher

How many people died from the shot compared to how many unvaccinated people died from Covid?
Also, no one actually cares anymore because we know substantially more unvaccinated people died from Covid than the shot. Like thousands of times more. Get on with your life and it will be MUCH easier for you.
Is it upsetting that bad things happened to people? Absolutely. Its also worse when way more bad things happen to way more people.

You do realize that if someone died after only 1 shot, or within 14 days of their 2nd, they were counted as unvaccinated in most datasets, right? That skews the numbers massively. CDC defined "fully vaccinated" as 14+ days post-dose 2, and in some places it was 30 days. So if someone died from a vax reaction early on, they were conveniently logged as an "unvaxxed COVID death." That’s statistical sleight of hand.... and it wildly inflated the risk gap you’re parroting. Check the definitions before repeating cooked data.

Funny to see everyone say "move on..." when this was legitimately a massive fucking crime.

[westopher]

I’m just trying to figure out how not one single person I know had a vaccine reaction, several people I know died from Covid (unvaccinated) and somehow every anti vaxxer I know somehow knows all these people that had reactions to the shots. Meanwhile the available data lined up with actual life experience? How did it all happen. Is my whole life part of a conspiracy where everyone got a placebo?

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000

Funny to see everyone say "move on..." when this was legitimately a massive fucking crime.

Cry about it more on RS, I'm sure the perpetrators will be brought to justice soon

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by westopher

I’m just trying to figure out how not one single person I know had a vaccine reaction, several people I know died from Covid (unvaccinated)

1. not one single person I know had a vaccine reaction

Gee, do you think it might have had to do with the open hatred for anyone skeptical at the time:



Think of how many young men suffered through chest pains and shrugged it off because they didn't want to seem "weak" when lining up like slave cattle for their good goy shot. Doing the right thing. Saving Grandma's life!

2. several people I know died from Covid (unvaccinated)

Okay, so, if they were under 70 and didn't already have cancer, then you should buy a lottery ticket because the chances of dying when not already sick from COVID was astronomically low if you were 40 or under. Still very, very low if 70 or under and not sick.

Remember when HondaRacer said "Oh you must have insider information I guess?"

Well, just one of my "insider" sources was when I was working health and safety at a construction company, I had access to all of the sick days and medical leave, and people had to CALL ME to let me know they couldn't make it to work... and we had, proportionally to the size of the company, a decent sized amount of people laid out by the shot itself. I got the fuck out of there soon after, but the data was showing that we had more people sick and unavailable to work AFTER the shots rolled out.

I think it is quite funny that we have a billion-dollar news and journalism organization, yet there has not been one deep dive into the COVID "vaccine" and it is halfway to 2026. Not one real journalist digging into the data, interviewing people, and being hot on the case... I wonder why.

[Hondaracer]

Yea, sick days within the construction industry, that’s an accurate baseline.

Give it a rest

[VRYALT3R3D]

Originally Posted by Jason00S2000

Think of how many young men suffered through chest pains and shrugged it off because they didn't want to seem "weak" when lining up like slave cattle for their good goy shot. Doing the right thing. Saving Grandma's life!

Did you have the same concerns when you injected yourself with all sorts of illicit drugs in your younger days?

Why are we still crying about the vaccine over all these years....just get over it.

srsly, bro

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Yea, sick days within the construction industry, that’s an accurate baseline.

Give it a rest

Oh yeah dude, pre-"vaccine" the chart I had for monthly healthy days was nearly all-green even during COVID.

Once the shots rolled out... almost immediately we had so many more people sick, people unable to complete their work and needing to be replaced, people who couldn't sleep, one guy calling me and saying after his shot, his heart wouldn't go below 110 BPM... I told him maybe he should go to the hospital, but he didn't.

I find it so funny that WokeScene and ConScene are still so, so, SO invested in the idea that the "vaccine" was "safe and effective" and no funny business... and yet the Epstein situation was definitely a cover-up.

Anyways, I'll drop it for now. You're all still so rich and comfortable that you'd never consider that the country you are living in is extremely corrupt and the media is bought and paid for.

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D

Did you have the same concerns when you injected yourself with all sorts of illicit drugs in your younger days?

Why are we still crying about the vaccine over all these years....just get over it.

srsly, bro

Never injected anything.

From when I was like 19-36, not one person I know OD'ed and died and I was in the party scene the entire time... sure, 1-2 times people I knew had to go to the hospital for drinking too much or whatever... but my friends and people I know and I partied like crazy and not a single person dropped dead, and I can count the party-fouls on one hand.

2014-2015 the hipsters started dropping like flies and every month there was a new death in Gastown of some young rich dude from poisoned coke.

Something has eaten away at the part of the brain in Woke/Conservative people that makes them 100% believe in the government and 100% believe in everything they are told by the TV. It is truly disturbing.