Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9188483)

Carney's been explicit that the US trade deal stuff is his 3rd priority when it comes to the economy - it comes after resolving interprovincial trade barriers and finding new trade partners. The former, he believes, would more than overcome the GDP impact of the tariffs, the latter is finding redundancy from an unreliable trade partner.

He's been pretty pointed about how the relationship with the US has changed forever and I don't believe he's saying that just as talk, his POV is that we need to work with other nations.

He's not the only one who isn't making the US a priority - Brazil has 50% tariffs on them and they're moving on with life rather than trying to negotiate with the US. Why negotiate? Japan allegedly had a 15% agreement with the US a couple weeks ago (Japan said this was untrue) and now the US is saying it'll be 30%. It's total chaos with the US.

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9188366)

The girl at the gym is thinking about moving back to comox. Shes from there originally and she showed me some listings, wow! less than a mill, 700-800k get you something that costs in vancouver 2 mill+

for your average canadian, i think thats a really sensible choice if you find vancouver too expensive. i mean what are you really missing by moving away? food and shopping, but thats about it. Job wise, if you can work remotely, why would you stay here.... makes no sense.

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9188488)

Bro, do you even believe the bullshit you write?

Of course the US trade deal is their #1 priority. If he is incapable of reducing the tariff, its pretty bad news for the USMCA re-negotiation that is happening next year.

Mark "Teflon" Carney ran and won on the claim that he could deal with Trump. It was in the book you supposedly read. That was his only selling point. He was supposed to be experienced, calm under pressure, and apparently had a lot of strong negotiation skillz. If we are already throwing in the towel, what exactly were Canadians sold? His appeal was ability to manage the US-CANADA trade relations...walking away from our biggest trading partner isn't a strategy.

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9188477)

I wonder if I'm reading Carney right. He's reserved, holding back, when US upped the tariff to 35% for things outside CUSMA after Aug 1st, he didn't pound his chest (like a Doug Ford) and countered with raising tariffs on certain US goods. He looks soft and like he's not fighting back, no 'elbows up', but instead he is considering lowering or removing some US tariffs. BECAUSE in the end, raising tariffs on US goods might make you look tough but essentially, tariffs make things more expensive to the avg Canadian consumer. Meanwhile, Trump raising tariffs on everyone in due time will see inflation go up in the US. There are indicators that their economy slowing down.

Is the US headed toward a recession? Experts weigh in
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-h...y?id=124407347

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9188492)

But Alberta will at least be able to sell BC wine…

Originally Posted by RevYouUp (Post 9188498)

I brought up why have retaliatory tariffs during the election and before Carney was elected and everyone gave me shit because I thought they were pointless other than a pride thing. Oh now it’s fine

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9188522)

Come on, don't be dumb. No, it's not the granola munchers. The liquored up, bonfire bush partiers. You're a hunter, so presumably you've backwoods camped. You should know the groups I'm talking about.

Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9188522)

Come on, don't be dumb.

Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9188521)

I don't like tariffs b/c they're a tax on consumption that also raises prices - I'd rather we promote buying non-US products (like Mexican and Chinese fruit or don't drink bourbon anymore).

If anything I'd rather we look at goods that the US can't live without (like potash, oil, aluminium, key minerals) and raise the prices on those items - there's a lot of price inelasticity with some of the goods we sell them so let's put a surcharge on them and use that money to help with the impact of tariffs.

That said, if a US good can be easily substituted then I'm fine with some retaliatory tariff. I'll disagree and commit on that point.