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6793026 08-06-2025 08:41 PM

freaking India tried to be swizerland and visited USA. THought everythign was good.
Then today, salpped more tariffs netting at 50% cause India tried to directly / indirectly sell oil to russia....

I'm loving how Canada just doesn't give an F and just say meh... let's move on.

VRYALT3R3D 08-06-2025 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9188483)
Carney's been explicit that the US trade deal stuff is his 3rd priority when it comes to the economy - it comes after resolving interprovincial trade barriers and finding new trade partners. The former, he believes, would more than overcome the GDP impact of the tariffs, the latter is finding redundancy from an unreliable trade partner.

He's been pretty pointed about how the relationship with the US has changed forever and I don't believe he's saying that just as talk, his POV is that we need to work with other nations.

He's not the only one who isn't making the US a priority - Brazil has 50% tariffs on them and they're moving on with life rather than trying to negotiate with the US. Why negotiate? Japan allegedly had a 15% agreement with the US a couple weeks ago (Japan said this was untrue) and now the US is saying it'll be 30%. It's total chaos with the US.

Bro, do you even believe the bullshit you write?

Of course the US trade deal is their #1 priority. If he is incapable of reducing the tariff, its pretty bad news for the USMCA re-negotiation that is happening next year.

Mark "Teflon" Carney ran and won on the claim that he could deal with Trump. It was in the book you supposedly read. That was his only selling point. He was supposed to be experienced, calm under pressure, and apparently had a lot of strong negotiation skillz. If we are already throwing in the towel, what exactly were Canadians sold? His appeal was ability to manage the US-CANADA trade relations...walking away from our biggest trading partner isn't a strategy.

6793026 08-06-2025 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9188366)
The girl at the gym is thinking about moving back to comox. Shes from there originally and she showed me some listings, wow! less than a mill, 700-800k get you something that costs in vancouver 2 mill+

for your average canadian, i think thats a really sensible choice if you find vancouver too expensive. i mean what are you really missing by moving away? food and shopping, but thats about it. Job wise, if you can work remotely, why would you stay here.... makes no sense.

This is what happens to a lot of small town people. Tried it in a big cities and realize so many fake people and can't build relationships... Can blame them now. Might be easier now as you can't build relationships anywhere since COVID and smart phones with infinity loops.

They go back and realize it's a culture shock from being in a vibrant and hip city back to nothing. It's the culture shock shift they gotta deal with.

Have to be honest, I've been lucky to work from home since 2005 (4 diff jobs) and current job is also full remote; yes I've struck gold.
Yes I coudl move to sask, Newfoundland and not work and live off selling my place here. I'm 45 so that's easy. If you're 25-30 moving back to small town, catch 21. No big city job and your small town job still won't let you buy a place.

Hondaracer 08-06-2025 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9188488)
Bro, do you even believe the bullshit you write?

Of course the US trade deal is their #1 priority. If he is incapable of reducing the tariff, its pretty bad news for the USMCA re-negotiation that is happening next year.

Mark "Teflon" Carney ran and won on the claim that he could deal with Trump. It was in the book you supposedly read. That was his only selling point. He was supposed to be experienced, calm under pressure, and apparently had a lot of strong negotiation skillz. If we are already throwing in the towel, what exactly were Canadians sold? His appeal was ability to manage the US-CANADA trade relations...walking away from our biggest trading partner isn't a strategy.

But Alberta will at least be able to sell BC wine…

RevYouUp 08-06-2025 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 9188477)
I wonder if I'm reading Carney right. He's reserved, holding back, when US upped the tariff to 35% for things outside CUSMA after Aug 1st, he didn't pound his chest (like a Doug Ford) and countered with raising tariffs on certain US goods. He looks soft and like he's not fighting back, no 'elbows up', but instead he is considering lowering or removing some US tariffs. BECAUSE in the end, raising tariffs on US goods might make you look tough but essentially, tariffs make things more expensive to the avg Canadian consumer. Meanwhile, Trump raising tariffs on everyone in due time will see inflation go up in the US. There are indicators that their economy slowing down.

Is the US headed toward a recession? Experts weigh in

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-h...y?id=124407347

I brought up why have retaliatory tariffs during the election and before Carney was elected and everyone gave me shit because I thought they were pointless other than a pride thing. Oh now it’s fine

Jason00S2000 08-06-2025 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9188492)
But Alberta will at least be able to sell BC wine…

RS needs a feature when you log into the website that you can tell who else is either high on THC, drunk, or a Guangzow hoarder of pantyhose and 1993 Camry head gaskets

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 07:09 AM

Nothing like a good old climate lock down :lol

https://news.novascotia.ca/en/2025/0...vent-wildfires

Get thrown in jail for camping on crown land while sexual predators get released same day?

Great68 08-07-2025 07:27 AM

"The fine for violating the restrictions is $25,000"

Where did it say you'd get "thrown in jail"?

These people illegally camping are generally the fucking idiot redneck types that do stupid shit and should be cracked down on anyways.

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 07:35 AM

Yea, those crazy granola munching hikers are a total menace.

Just more insane overreach for the “sake of what’s good for you”

supafamous 08-07-2025 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RevYouUp (Post 9188498)
I brought up why have retaliatory tariffs during the election and before Carney was elected and everyone gave me shit because I thought they were pointless other than a pride thing. Oh now it’s fine

I don't like tariffs b/c they're a tax on consumption that also raises prices - I'd rather we promote buying non-US products (like Mexican and Chinese fruit or don't drink bourbon anymore).

If anything I'd rather we look at goods that the US can't live without (like potash, oil, aluminium, key minerals) and raise the prices on those items - there's a lot of price inelasticity with some of the goods we sell them so let's put a surcharge on them and use that money to help with the impact of tariffs.

That said, if a US good can be easily substituted then I'm fine with some retaliatory tariff. I'll disagree and commit on that point.

Great68 08-07-2025 07:43 AM

Come on, don't be dumb. No, it's not the granola munchers. The liquored up, bonfire bush partiers. You're a hunter, so presumably you've backwoods camped. You should know the groups I'm talking about.

68style 08-07-2025 07:55 AM

Honda is falling into that logic trap bitching people on article comments (and now X) always fall into where they thinks all cops/law enforcement do all things… which is not the case and they’re never going to allocate all resources to eradicating a hot topic while other stuff festers.

“Why are they wasting time handing out traffic tickets, there are murderers out there!” without even a basic acknowledgement of how specialized training is in a variety of areas and that certain cops only do certain tasks.

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9188522)
Come on, don't be dumb. No, it's not the granola munchers. The liquored up, bonfire bush partiers. You're a hunter, so presumably you've backwoods camped. You should know the groups I'm talking about.

Well yea and as a law abiding user of crown land I’d be pretty choked to be banned from using huge swaths of land because a few bad apples? Just seems crazy

Are we gonna start chaining up back country areas here? I guess we already do under the guise of aboriginal use which is insane as well.

whitev70r 08-07-2025 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9188522)
Come on, don't be dumb.

He can't help it.

VRYALT3R3D 08-07-2025 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9188521)
I don't like tariffs b/c they're a tax on consumption that also raises prices - I'd rather we promote buying non-US products (like Mexican and Chinese fruit or don't drink bourbon anymore).

If anything I'd rather we look at goods that the US can't live without (like potash, oil, aluminium, key minerals) and raise the prices on those items - there's a lot of price inelasticity with some of the goods we sell them so let's put a surcharge on them and use that money to help with the impact of tariffs.

That said, if a US good can be easily substituted then I'm fine with some retaliatory tariff. I'll disagree and commit on that point.

I just love how Carney campaigned on exactly the opposite of what he is doing. The cognitive dissonance you go through each day must be staggering.

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 08:02 AM

When Christmas rolls around and nothing has changed Supafamous will undoubtedly be twisting himself into a pretzel in order to justify the lack of inaction.

The greatest businessman Canada has ever seen can’t do anything but bend over and accept the outcomes :lol

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 9188522)
Come on, don't be dumb. No, it's not the granola munchers. The liquored up, bonfire bush partiers. You're a hunter, so presumably you've backwoods camped. You should know the groups I'm talking about.

I didn’t even see this part

“ While the restrictions are in place, people can still access beaches and parks, but not the trail systems. Private landowners are free to use their own properties but cannot host others to use wooded areas of their properties.”

:lol

Can’t host people on private land? :lol

Like.. I ain’t some conspiracy theorist but this sounds a lot like some typical bullshit we know what’s best for you, even on your own property. Fucking gross.

Jason00S2000 08-07-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9188553)
Like.. I ain’t some conspiracy theorist but this sounds a lot like some typical bullshit we know what’s best for you, even on your own property. Fucking gross.

I remember when anti-COVID "vaccine" people were predicting "climate lockdowns"

Kind of looks like what is happening over in Nova Scotia!

Oh well, Canadians will just take it.

Jason00S2000 08-07-2025 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 9188489)
Might be easier now as you can't build relationships anywhere since COVID and smart phones with infinity loops.

Almost like someone predicted this with a book "City of Singles" 12+ years ago...

:accepted:

The smart phone changed everything in regards to male-female relationships.

Hondaracer 08-07-2025 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9188560)
I remember when anti-COVID "vaccine" people were predicting "climate lockdowns"

Kind of looks like what is happening over in Nova Scotia!

Oh well, Canadians will just take it.

I think with Covid it’s completely legitimate to look back at many aspects and say when the govt told you something was in your best interest, ultimately it very much was not. Especially in hindsight.

Trying to control what you do on private property due to fire risk?

Or the natives here shutting down crown lands as a veiled way to “protect” them? Nah. Fuck it.

Great68 08-07-2025 01:54 PM

I agree, I personally wasn't all too happy about COVID lockdowns limiting who you were allowed to have in your private house.
But the precedent is there, the governments always had this power...

Of course, the only time this was every actually enforced was against retards having house parties during COVID.

Tapioca 08-07-2025 03:33 PM

This BCBC report on provincial migration has been getting a lot of press this week. Here's one clip:

https://www.biv.com/news/real-estate...lysis-11038927

Surprised that more people on RS haven't moved to Alberta, considering its politics, and lower cost of living generally.

Manic! 08-07-2025 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9188485)
Of course they do. You won't get a decent job without it. (except for ppl with arts degrees- they are cooked)

Isn't this the guy you voted for?


Quote:

Pierre Poilievre earned a Bachelor of Arts in International Relations from the University of Calgary, completing his degree through online studies in 2008, even though he had initially left the university in 2002 to work in politics

.

So to be crystal clear:

Degree: Bachelor of Arts in International Relations

Institution: University of Calgary

Completed: 2008, via online coursework

whitev70r 08-07-2025 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 9188624)
Surprised that more people on RS haven't moved to Alberta, considering its politics, and lower cost of living generally.

I think we listed all the disadvantage of living in AB and prefer our smaller size homes, cultural diversity, centrist government, and both Mountains and Ocean.

GLOW 08-07-2025 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Manic! (Post 9188625)
Isn't this the guy you voted for?

wait, i can get a degree from U of C online?!
wonder if they offer any useful masters programs online


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