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For the most part I agree with you, but my one concern would be what does disposal look like? Is there a situation where a defunct EV brand suddenly means we have a pile of these things somehow needing to be scrapped here and creating a bunch of waste?
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America has been unlikable for a long time. Now if they have nothing to offer financially, what’s the point of inviting them to the party? America is like the guy who hated that at least brought the beer. Once they stop bringing the beer, who wants them to come?
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Meanwhile, the media in Malaysia is loving the attention he's giving to their country. He even gave their PM a ride in the Presidential Limo ("The Beast") which is unheard of. Their whole "pick me" attitude is pretty Canadian-esque if you ask me.
As for Carney, he's doing the best he can with the shit hand he got dealt, but remember he WANTED this job. He's got this whole vibe of a CEO who's rushing out to get new clients after his biggest client just cancelled their long term contract after some rogue employee (Ontario's DoFo) thought it would be a good idea to troll their CEO. He's doing what he can, can't say I'd do anything different.
Inb4 PP, Valytard and his ilk come in with "but why don't we have a deeeeeeaaal yet? He said we'd have a deeel in July.!!!!11"
Malaysia’s leaders hosting the ASEAN Summit gave a red carpet and military salute to welcome Carney.
Trump does not get the same treatment as Carney.
The start of Canada’s big pivot away from economic dependence on the U.S?
Carney's address at the ASEAN Summit doesn't sound to me like it is earth shattering at all -- it just merely mirrors the same stable tone that he has announced in his various policy addresses / public announcements. There might be a bit more diplomatic tone to it than his usual news press conferences he did in Canadian media, but that's about it.
We are a middle power country rich in resources, and Carney is trying to sell some of that to the ASEAN countries. IMO we'd have some advantages over the US, China, the EU (and maybe individual EU countries) bcos we are not a world leading power that would seek to bully the ASEAN countries (like US would), nor one that would coerce them for favours or certain politicla stances (like China), nor are we bounded by the more troublesome EU regulations (although we'd still have our own regulations to meet. At the same time, our prices would probably be more expensive.
My personal impression of ASEAN countries is that there is a LOT of corruption happening, esp at the gov level. This could make trade disputes difficult to resolve, and that raises an inherent risk in how much economic benefits we can get out of trading with ASEAN.
Furthermore, even if we are able double the amount of trade we do with non-US countries in the next decade, we are still heavily dependent on the US. According to Google, currently ~75% of our exports goes to the US, and ~50% of our imports come from the US. I don't know what those trade numbers will change to, but I just can't see a future where Canada wouldn't be doing a significant portion of our trade with the US.
Last but not least, my wishful thinking continues to hope that it wouldn't take too long before Trump and his hostile-to-Canada attitude ends. If the stars really align and the American public finally comes to the realization that Trump is hurting their wallets as well as their interests, then we could see a useful power shift as early as next year during the midterm elections. Or, maybe it'll take until 2028 before we see a meaningful change.
Regardless, it is a good thing that we try to diversify our trade.
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Carneys not stupid, if your biggest "client" is being a 5 year old retard. You're gonna divest from that client, look for other clients to expand business with. You're not gonna double down and rely more on the retarded Karen.
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its ASEAN... come on that slike what 1/10 of china's total output combined? who gives a shit about the association of jungle Asians. Even if we secure a free trade deal with this group of tiny weirdos, its not going to impact canada much, they dont have the market for our goods and vice versa. Plus what are ASEAN's exports? fucking vinfasts!? proton wira's!? fucking trash.
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its ASEAN... come on that slike what 1/10 of china's total output combined? who gives a shit about the association of jungle Asians. Even if we secure a free trade deal with this group of tiny weirdos, its not going to impact canada much, they dont have the market for our goods and vice versa. Plus what are ASEAN's exports? fucking vinfasts!? proton wira's!? fucking trash.
I mean, as a whole the organization is pretty loosey goosey politically speaking, but I wouldn't count them as small potatoes. They're probably about 1/5 output of China with less than 1/2 the population. But don't forget there's 30 million Chinamen running around there, much of whom are highly educated, English speaking and with a penchant for exploiting the native population.
Most of the natives though, if they can get over praying to their sky daddies every waking moment (be it Jesus, Allah or Buddha) are mostly useless. Viets being an obvious exception as godless money grubbers like the Chinks.
For Canada's POV, their main resource is their people like India, but with an extra bonus, most of them don't want to come live here!
its ASEAN... come on that slike what 1/10 of china's total output combined? who gives a shit about the association of jungle Asians. Even if we secure a free trade deal with this group of tiny weirdos, its not going to impact canada much, they dont have the market for our goods and vice versa. Plus what are ASEAN's exports? fucking vinfasts!? proton wira's!? fucking trash.
Hmm. Carney is talking to investors in Singapore. -attracting investors to invest more in Canada than their current holdings. Singapore is a considerable finance hub in Asia. He is trying to convince port operator PSA International to help with port expansion in our country?
On Sunday, he told a business audience in Malaysia that Canada has learned over the last year that “we need to build at scale at home,” adding that around half a trillion dollars of investment is needed “in many of the areas that I think many of the investors and businesses here would find attractive.”
Singapore is home to many heavyweight international investors and funds that have had prior contact with Carney.
On Tuesday, he lined up a series of private meetings with potential investment partners including with the head of the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation, a sovereign wealth fund that has existing investments in Canada.
The Prime Minister’s Office said he planned to encourage more investment in areas like AI, clean technology, critical minerals and nation-building projects in Canada.
He also toured the facilities of port operator PSA International and met with its CEO. The company has terminals in British Columbia and Halifax, and Carney’s office said he planned to “encourage PSA International to capitalize on Canada’s upcoming nation-building projects.”
Carney’s visit to the city-state comes after plans for him to visit Japan were overturned by political shifts in Tokyo.
Senior Canadian officials, who were authorized to brief media about Carney’s trip on the condition they not be named, suggested the prime minister likely would have visited Japan instead this week had the country’s coalition government not collapsed earlier this month.
Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi took office last week and she might meet with Carney at the APEC summit in South Korea this weekend.
Carney began the trip in Malaysia at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations leaders summit, known as ASEAN.
The 11-country block includes some of the world’s fastest-growing economies, including Singapore. Most of the group’s members are constantly navigating the superpower rivalry between the U.S. and China.
Stéphanie Martel, a professor specializing in Southeast Asia at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ont., said Ottawa needs to prove its relevance if it wants to secure investment and trade from the region.
“Canada probably needs ASEAN way more than it needs us — and they know it, but I don’t think we necessarily do,” said Martel.
“They have much bigger fish to fry, so we need to actually make a strong and convincing case about (our) added value.”
Carney’s visit attempts to build on the Indo-Pacific strategy the Liberal government released three years ago, which pledged closer partnerships in Southeast Asia.
The strategy repeatedly noted that many in the region believe Ottawa has been engaging inconsistently, with periods of intense outreach followed by years of silence.
Martel said it makes sense for Carney to focus on trade, given the pressures facing Canada’s economy from U.S. tariffs. But she said he also needs to talk about broader issues, such as security and climate change, that resonate with people in Southeast Asia.
“I’m a bit concerned that we’re again forgetting the necessity — including when thinking about securing those trade and investment gains — of really providing this view of Canada being a reliable and constructive partner, across the board,” she said.
Martel said that’s increasingly important for all parties grappling with U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade and security policies.
“For our partners in the region, it’s also becoming crystal clear that the United States is unpredictable, unreliable and destabilizing. And this will lead them to skew towards China out of necessity, and only China will be happy about that situation,” she said.
“There is also a window of opportunity for Canada — among other partners that are similarly invested in the preservation of predictability, common rules in trade and other domains — to help alleviate some of that pressure.”
While ASEAN declared Canada a strategic partner in 2023, Ottawa has been left out of a comprehensive partnership that would include it in ASEAN talks on issues like defence.
“We’ve been adamant for years that we want to gain access to those, but we haven’t been able to make a strong case for what we hope to accomplish being there and how we can contribute,” Martel said.
Malaysian Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim told Carney at the start of a bilateral meeting on Monday that his cabinet has agreed to push for a deeper partnership with Canada that includes trade, research and education and investment.
Canada and ASEAN have pushed back the timeline for completing a trade agreement. That deal was supposed to be signed this year but has been delayed to next year.
Martel said the delay isn’t surprising, since the ASEAN bloc includes countries with vastly different interests and levels of development. She said it was smart for Canada to sign a separate deal with Indonesia this year and announce plans to accelerate trade talks with the Philippines.
“This is clearly the pragmatic approach, to develop negotiations on the multilateral and bilateral sides,” she said.
Carney has also been meeting with leaders he’s likely to see on the summit circuit next year. He met with Filipino President Ferdinand Marcos Jr., ahead of the Philippines hosting the ASEAN summit next year. Carney also plans to meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping later this week at the APEC summit in Korea; China will host the APEC summit next year.
This report by The Canadian Press was first published Oct. 28, 2025.
i feel like everything hinges on the EV tariffs though. and if we let up on the EV tariffs that would be harming us in other ways. kinda fucked if we do fucked if we don't situation.
With GM laying off workers, it would be funny (but not funny) if BYD took over their plants, hired the laid off workers, and went to town, selling EVs to people at rock bottom prices.
not to mention the total fit trump will have by letting chinese cars in.
his country can do what it wants but we can't do what we want..
also evs wont be that cheap even if byd comes here... they will just slightly undercut the market by like 2-3k, kind of like what hyundai did in the 2000s.
theres no way they're gonna make them unnecessarily cheap and leave all that money on the table.
For those who live in Richmond, please do us all a favour and do not vote or let this clown be the next mayor. Badhobz, do something, run for mayor yourself if you have to ... don't let this guy win.
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The only saving grace now is Badhobz. He is the mayor the people of Richmond need, and the mayor they deserve.
Id burn down the museum of anthropology as my first act of mayor. Yes I don’t care it’s not in Richmond, me and a bunch of chinks and rag heads are gonna head over there and burn that bitch ass place down and chop up all those totem poles into firewood.
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The mental gymnastics you go through each day to justify carney's actions must be crazy, bro. He achieved absolutely nothing with the US on a trade deal and Canada's position continues to worsen. Will Carney launch conter tariffs? Of course not. Not a single "concession" Carney made has led anywhere. What a chump.
Early signs suggest Canada’s economy barely managed any growth in third quarter: StatCan
Pierre would last maybe 2 minutes before handing Canada over to Trump. The only person who could go toe to toe with Trump would be Ford. There’s a lot to dislike about Ford, but he’s the only one standing up for Canada and doesn't fear Trump.
The mental gymnastics you go through each day to justify carney's actions must be crazy, bro. He achieved absolutely nothing with the US on a trade deal and Canada's position continues to worsen. Will Carney launch conter tariffs? Of course not. Not a single "concession" Carney made has led anywhere. What a chump.
Early signs suggest Canada’s economy barely managed any growth in third quarter: StatCan
68style's response questioned Trump's honesty, suggesting that you shouldn't believe everything Trump says. Nowhere in his reply did he say anything about Carney's actions.
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