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Old 12-01-2018, 07:20 PM   #1
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Blowing fireplace heat from livingroom to bedroom

Hey guys, I want to create a steel sheet box to stand over my fireplace so that I can fan suck heat through a duct (wood pole frames with bed sheets wrapped around) and into my bedroom.

Any flaws in this idea?
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Its an apartment... I will document the build and keep you guys updated.
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Let me know how it goes, I've been wanting to do this as well. Maybe I can also direct the heat to my van.
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I already started a design for the van.

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Having trouble figuring out your plan.

Gas fireplace, inset in wall? Or wood burning unit (cast iron). Some ducting in front/top of a gas fireplace would work well. Shouldn’t cause any fire issues like this, as the air won’t be getting that hot. As long as there is an open intake on the fire side, and fan creating negative pressure(within the duct) on the bedroom side should work fine.

If wood fire place, with ducting resting on fireplace it’s a little sketchier. Ok way sketchier. Way hotter. But with a hole for intake and fan, should work to get you heat. Cover the ductwork in that fireboard. Lol. There is 4 and 6” inline fans on amazon that fit nicely in round ductwork.

For maximum efficiency you will need to keep your bedroom door open so it’s not creating positive pressure in the bed room. It will slow down the fans efficiency drastically.

Your place must be ugly.


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That is a very crappy diagram lol. I wish you the best. Will come back to this thread.
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Having trouble figuring out your plan.

Gas fireplace, inset in wall? Or wood burning unit (cast iron). Some ducting in front/top of a gas fireplace would work well. Shouldn’t cause any fire issues like this, as the air won’t be getting that hot. As long as there is an open intake on the fire side, and fan creating negative pressure(within the duct) on the bedroom side should work fine.
Its an inset gas fireplace.


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If wood fire place, with ducting resting on fireplace it’s a little sketchier. Ok way sketchier. Way hotter. But with a hole for intake and fan, should work to get you heat. Cover the ductwork in that fireboard. Lol. There is 4 and 6” inline fans on amazon that fit nicely in round ductwork.

For maximum efficiency you will need to keep your bedroom door open so it’s not creating positive pressure in the bed room. It will slow down the fans efficiency drastically.

Your place must be ugly.


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Nice, if I understood correctly, rather then a special board I will use a metal tray to seal the duct to the cotton sheet corridor.

I want to use a cardboard box at my bedroom door for an 8 inch floor fan to be enclosed and vent the air through. The distance to the fire place is far where it shouldnt be too warm when it reaches that point.
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You could heat water in copper lines over the fire and have a water pump circulate the water into a radiator with your fan to warm up your room. The water lines can be insulated with fiberglass so it could stay hot all the way to your radiator fan.
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You can adjust the temperature on the height you run the copper over the flames.
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This is really smart... but the copper piping cost is out of my league.

In the middle east they call the following a Korsi... hot coals are placed there and the house dwellers put their feet under the table and covers.
if I had pipes coming it, I'd lay it under my mattress.
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You'll only need copper for over the fire. The rest you can use pex.
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You could find an all metal radiator and put that over the fire and run double radiators lol
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Wow great idea!
Wrapping the copper around the inside for maximum heat exchange... and this Pex hosing is only $10 for 25 feet... I think I will take this route! will have to think about it more.
Cheap computer or aquarium pumps should be sufficient.


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By the way Richard Branson is offering 3 million usd if anyone can reinvent the air conditioner. Since this thread is so creative lol.
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Are you actually planning on putting something inside the fireplace, in the flames? Yikes?!

Or just using the heat which is being put out from the sealed unit. You know those oil radiator heaters are quite economically. Especially if you put it in a “cotton corridor”.
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If you do that copper coil thing properly, you won’t need a pump. Research copper coil hot tubs.
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Can I add that's a really well drawn fire? Not many people do it in that style, very unorthodox
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By the way Richard Branson is offering 3 million usd if anyone can reinvent the air conditioner. Since this thread is so creative lol.
Actually some years ago I post here about running cold water through a pipe which would be placed under ones seat for the summer time... could waste less water then someone taking multiple showers.
There is also historic dessert air cooling technology from the middle east that is not utilized in modern times.


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Are you actually planning on putting something inside the fireplace, in the flames? Yikes?!
I had the fireplace opened not long ago, it seems pretty basic but now Im wondering what if the water happens to leak... under the fireplace there is an electrical outlet for the external fan... electrocution could be a risk here... copper pipes inside or out.
I guess I can somewhat elevate the ground socket.


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Or just using the heat which is being put out from the sealed unit. You know those oil radiator heaters are quite economically. Especially if you put it in a “cotton corridor”.
Nice, but since gas heat is included with the condo, continuous fireplace heat seems like the way to go. I also could rig the central heating system ceiling ducts to pump into a somewhat enclosed "Korsi".


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If you do that copper coil thing properly, you won’t need a pump. Research copper coil hot tubs.
Im guessing it would kind of work like a pump-less geothermal system... will look into this for sure!
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You can also buy an electric heater to save time and effort too.

Black Friday special on electric heaters?
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If you run the coil continuously, without multiple high and low points. If for some reason the coil creates a small leak, it will drip/run to the lowest point. Put this point outside the fireplace. Without any sort of pump it’s not under high pressure so it should just “drip”. That takes care
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