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Originally Posted by Hehe  Im glad that our legal system prevailed.
As the judge ruled, it’s fraud that’s at the center of this double criminality question. And if it was Canada having a sanction against Iran and she lied to the bank, the same fraud charge would constitute as a crime in Canada as well.
It shows China that the foundation of our society, which are the laws that govern us is still what it is. We follow it down to the words. | Wondering what set of repercussions are headed Canada's way from China with this ruling.
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05-27-2020, 11:11 AM
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| Huawei CFO Wanzhou Meng arrested in Vancouver, faces extradition to U.S.
Justice prevails!
So when is the next court hearing for Ms Meng?
Is she gonna pay some money to more SJWs to hold signs of support for her in front of the court house? 
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05-27-2020, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Infiniti Wondering what set of repercussions are headed Canada's way from China with this ruling. | Yes, I am curious how many more "Michaels" there will be after this ruling.
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05-27-2020, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Infiniti Wondering what set of repercussions are headed Canada's way from China with this ruling. | There's nothing you and I can control except to stay the fuck out of China for the foreseeable future
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05-27-2020, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by StylinRed It's already been reported in China that she's let go and will be on her way home by the weekend, and they used the promo photos she took at the courthouse the other day. | 
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05-27-2020, 11:26 AM
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05-27-2020, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by welfare Yes, I am curious how many more "Michaels" there will be after this ruling. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ch28 There's nothing you and I can control except to stay the fuck out of China for the foreseeable future | Some of you know my me in real life, but I can share with the public that my recent (and hopefully last) visit to China was NOT pleasant. It was difficult entering the country, and even more difficult leaving the country. While this might seem like an exaggeration, but while getting to my flight at Shanghai Pudong Airport, the officials there put me through so much trouble, I almost lost faith in ever being able to come back to Canada. After that experience, I don't think i'll ever go back to China unless I absolutely had to, and will likely resist any reason to go.
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05-27-2020, 11:53 AM
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Anecdotal - I went to HK in December. Went over to SZ for a day trip through the Lok Ma Chau crossing. Thought the border guards would give me trouble, but they were actually quite nice. Didn't look at my phone or anything either. I know it's not Shanghai or Beijing, but just throwing that out there.
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05-27-2020, 11:55 AM
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Yes, that particular crossing is pretty lax compared to the airports in Shanghai and Beijing. I ended up going to Fuzhou as well, and that was a fucking nightmare in itself as well.
I know the Chinese are reading this so for the record, I love China! | |
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05-27-2020, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hehe It shows China that the foundation of our society, which are the laws that govern us is still what it is. We follow it down to the words. | Amen!
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05-27-2020, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ch28 There's nothing you and I can control except to stay the fuck out of China for the foreseeable future | I don't have much of a choice in this regard as my employer has postponed all travel to China. I was there a few years ago so I am good on that front. Mind you, I do have a good friend of mine living and working in Guangzhou so I do worry about his wellbeing these days.
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05-27-2020, 12:23 PM
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I don't trust a single damn thing that comes out China, and especially this POS. I have done business with Chinese companies personally and they have zero business ethics.
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05-27-2020, 12:24 PM
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I would think your computer or phone you are posting from is probably made in China, and I'm not talking about Taiwan  | |
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05-27-2020, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Infiniti Wondering what set of repercussions are headed Canada's way from China with this ruling. | It would be almost stupid to launch any form of such repercussion now I think.
That shows nothing but China is willing to use its gov't power to get things EXACTLY how it wants. This will bring nothing but backfire.
How is our gov't going to react going forward? Basically China will ask that you are either our puppet or our enemy. And I don't think it's hard for Canadian voters to pick a side.
If I live by any motto, it's a simple sentence and I believe it applies perfectly here.
Choose the right thing to do, not the easiest.
If we will have to go as far as losing China as our trade partner, so be it. Because once you are willing to bend your fundamentals, however little, there's no turning back.
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05-27-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Hehe It would be almost stupid to launch any form of such repercussion now I think.
That shows nothing but China is willing to use its gov't power to get things EXACTLY how it wants. This will bring nothing but backfire.
How is our gov't going to react going forward? Basically China will ask that you are either our puppet or our enemy. And I don't think it's hard for Canadian voters to pick a side.
If I live by any motto, it's a simple sentence and I believe it applies perfectly here.
Choose the right thing to do, not the easiest.
If we will have to go as far as losing China as our trade partner, so be it. Because once you are willing to bend your fundamentals, however little, there's no turning back. | Definitely aware of the average Canadian's sentiment on China these days. However, Canada's Canola and Pork producers likely have a different take on the matter.
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05-27-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Infiniti Definitely aware of the average Canadian's sentiment on China these days. However, Canada's Canola and Pork producers likely have a different take on the matter. | I'm aware of canola and pork situation, and our gov't was weighting how to reach a middle ground with China.
However, it all comes down to at what cost?
What does China have to do with Meng? Nothing except face really. It's supposedly a "private" corporation and one of its officers did something that triggered the law enforcement.
And what is China asking us to do? In order for your canola and pork to come in, you have to be willing to bend backward, including your legal system to make China and the CCP look good.
What are we, as Canadian supposed to react to that? I'd rather the gov't spend shit tons of money in subsidy to help the canola/pork farmers rather than shaking the very fundamental value our society is based on.
It's not easy... but it's the right thing.
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05-27-2020, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Hehe If I live by any motto, it's a simple sentence and I believe it applies perfectly here.
Choose the right thing to do, not the easiest.
If we will have to go as far as losing China as our trade partner, so be it. Because once you are willing to bend your fundamentals, however little, there's no turning back. | Define "right".
Winners write history and define "right". I thought everyone know this by now. If in an alternate dimension, Nazis won, whatever their ideology is will be the right one.
It is what it is. It's not always about being "right"(which in itself is difficult to define), it's about weighing the pros and cons. It's just reality.
In a way, China in itself knows this since China has been learning "winners make the rules" the hard way historically. Make yourself stronger or bend over, it's really just that simple.
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05-27-2020, 01:11 PM
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I feel like this coming from something like Metal Gear Solid.
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05-27-2020, 02:23 PM
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This is so effed! Not sure why some of you are so righteous about 'doing right'. This is all based on the US banning trade to Iran and Huawei violated that. So tell me why Canada is spending all this time, money, and collateral damage for a violation of their made up rule?
OK, so if you are righteous about the extradition agreement, then for God's sake, ship her to US already and let them do their own dirty work. It's been over a friggin year. If you are so on the side of the law, how about the clause that justice should be within a certain reasonable amount of time.
How any Canadian supports Canada keeping her here with all the unnecessary political BS and a waste of our taxpayers $$ is beyond me. Today's decision should have been either release her or, dismissal of her appeal for extradition to the US (which is what happened) AND a one way plane ticket to the US for F's sakes.
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Well if Harper was PM that would probably have already been done.
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05-27-2020, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whitev70r This is so effed! Not sure why some of you are so righteous about 'doing right'. | What I'm wondering is how so many people have already decided her fate before the trial was over. How did people know the courts did the right thing... Without knowing all the facts being discussed in the courtroom, etc... I mean, if the courts found there were no grounds for extradition then would people still think the courts did the right thing? I've largely stayed out of this thread because I didn't want to pontificate on something I knew nothing about.
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05-27-2020, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Some of you know my me in real life, but I can share with the public that my recent (and hopefully last) visit to China was NOT pleasant. It was difficult entering the country, and even more difficult leaving the country. While this might seem like an exaggeration, but while getting to my flight at Shanghai Pudong Airport, the officials there put me through so much trouble, I almost lost faith in ever being able to come back to Canada. After that experience, I don't think i'll ever go back to China unless I absolutely had to, and will likely resist any reason to go. | You care to elaborate on this story? I'm genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon What I'm wondering is how so many people have already decided her fate before the trial was over. How did people know the courts did the right thing... Without knowing all the facts being discussed in the courtroom, etc... I mean, if the courts found there were no grounds for extradition then would people still think the courts did the right thing? I've largely stayed out of this thread because I didn't want to pontificate on something I knew nothing about. | Becuase everybody here on Revscene is an expert on everything China  | |
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Originally Posted by !LittleDragon What I'm wondering is how so many people have already decided her fate before the trial was over. How did people know the courts did the right thing... Without knowing all the facts being discussed in the courtroom, etc... I mean, if the courts found there were no grounds for extradition then would people still think the courts did the right thing? I've largely stayed out of this thread because I didn't want to pontificate on something I knew nothing about. | I think people are saying this is "the right thing" because it's based on law and not politics. If the courts found no reason to extradite her, and it was proven by law, then that would have been "the right thing" as well.
It doesn't matter if you agree with the extradition or not either. It doesn't matter if you don't care about USA's issues with Cuba and Iran. Fact is, Canada has an extradition deal with them that makes both countries better in general. If Canada had found any other reason to deal with this other than following the law, then that would be "the wrong thing" to do. Regardless of what you think of USA's laws, or China's politics, or anything else.
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05-27-2020, 03:50 PM
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It's not just people saying that it's the right thing... but for someone to say that "Justice prevailed" means they already formed an opinion before the trial was over... which is fine, it's totally possible someone has all the facts but if you didn't... what was that opinion based on?
Not just specific to this situation, we see it all the time, especially in high profile cases.
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