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Exactly. I'm not saying that the OK sign is the new "nazi salute". But to some people it is. I'm not saying this guy is the symbol of white power, but to some people it is. The tiki torch is not a Nazi swastika, but to some people it is. And to my original point, I'm not saying Trump is Hitler. But to some people, he is.
And these people are organized, just not in the traditional way with a leader, etc. They are basically a non religious cult. They will do this shit to impress each other, and from that comes extremists like this guy.
"oh but they're just stupid meme lords, and this was just a crazy one"
Give me a fucking break.
btw I bet I can tell you who the Jordan Peterson fans are in here
You haven't made your idea of how to combat any of this any clearer. So far, all anyone has is that some guy killed a shitload of innocent people, and he had a fascination with memes and a hatred for outsiders (which isn't unique). How that makes anyone but him a direct threat to anything is beyond reaching, and at worst is borderline irresponsible.
Are you under the assumption that sites like 4chan are directly responsible for these kinds of attacks? If that's what you're saying, then you are attaching a definite conclusion to a site that is completely anonymous and without any kind of user data collection. Literally anyone could be posting racist garbage, you can't see who they are, so how can you conclude that they aren't just basement dwelling assholes? It could be the reverse, with the truth being that 4chan is the internet version of Al Qaeda, with hardened terrorists ready to strike the world at will. A hundred posts could in fact represent one person.
The actual truth is that it's not physically possible to say, so the best anyone has is that it was a deranged individual who took things too literally.
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You haven't made your idea of how to combat any of this any clearer. So far, all anyone has is that some guy killed a shitload of innocent people, and he had a fascination with memes and a hatred for outsiders (which isn't unique). How that makes anyone but him a direct threat to anything is beyond reaching, and at worst is borderline irresponsible.
Are you under the assumption that sites like 4chan are directly responsible for these kinds of attacks? If that's what you're saying, then you are attaching a definite conclusion to a site that is completely anonymous and without any kind of user data collection. Literally anyone could be posting racist garbage, you can't see who they are, so how can you conclude that they aren't just basement dwelling assholes? It could be the reverse, with the truth being that 4chan is the internet version of Al Qaeda, with hardened terrorists ready to strike the world at will. A hundred posts could in fact represent one person.
The actual truth is that it's not physically possible to say, so the best anyone has is that it was a deranged individual who took things too literally.
Not sure how anything I said led you to the conclusion that 4chan is directly responsible for terror attacks, or that video games are as another person tried to say.
All I am saying is to be aware that there are types of terrorists that aren't just brown-skinned beard-donning religious zealots. There are pimple faced neckbeard having meme zealots too. Whether they're on 4chan or some other site I have no idea, but they're out there, they're trolling, and once in a while one goes and does something like this. I group incels in with them too, and they've done many attacks like this as well.
As for how to combat it, if I had the answer, you can be sure I would let the president of earth know about it, so all problems could be solved.
Maybe we've just been fighting against hatred in one form or another since enlightenment, and it's going to continue until the vast majority can just accept people for who they are - other people - and not spew hatred. The first step may be for people like you to stop assuming that one form of hatred is much less dangerous than another, just because bibles or scary sounding names like al quaeda aren't involved.
It's funny, you're looking for me to make some outrageous claim so you can attack it with rhetoric. Not going to happen
I may be wrong about my points, and I can totally be convinced of that. I listen to everyone who is willing to speak intelligently. All I see are baseless attacks and logical fallacy though.
This literal idiot has figured out what all this shit means, and is explaining it to the other morons... A lot of them are already in the know, but now people his IQ and lower will be in on it too. And so on.
I bet it won't be long until I hear some little shit repeat that line in the lobby in an upcoming Apex Legends game.
Newzealand is banning the sale and ownership of all semi autos. In America, people would be upset because people are talking about gun control and the bodies are not even buried yet or some other B.S. excuss.
You can still buy bump stocks in the states. The ban starts on the 26th. I will be a felony to own one after that date. Who the hell is going to own something for a week and then turn it into the government?
Ar-15 bump stock with a 50 round drum magazine on sale for only $309.
I bet people are stocking up.
It's pretty effective in what they've created. They have weaponized the trolling culture and its use of irony to create a hall of mirrors surrounding such “memes".
If they are persecuted they can simply retreat to a “free speech” defense which is what memes like the “OK sign” are designed to do.
A guy on twitter posting "OK sign" or Pepe the frog memes to promote white supremacy isn't going to get in the same trouble as a guy posting radical Islamic ideologies.
Did anyone here NOT play the okay below the waist game?
I used to play this game ALL the time!
I was going to say, this was a thing before the internet even existed. Dumb? Totally but when I was a teenager we'd do this shit. Would I do it as a 40 year old man today? No.
I can't comment on the poopy pie or shit sandwich or whatever name that streamer goes by, got no experience with it.
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I was going to say, this was a thing before the internet even existed. Dumb? Totally but when I was a teenager we'd do this shit. Would I do it as a 40 year old man today? No.
Agreed, preferably some with big tits and low self esteem.
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Did anyone here NOT play the okay below the waist game?
I used to play this game ALL the time!
I only ever heard about it a few years ago.. I kept seeing videos referring to it, but I had no idea wtf it was about (this was before the WP controversy)
When I was a kid we'd play punch buggy and probably some other ones, but I don't recall this one
iirc it's a game called asshole. cause the person that gets you is an asshole cause they're going to punch you in the arm and you call them as such haha.
According to tim pool if someone is doing the ok symbol it's ok to hit him in the nuts. It's a game white people play.
When I was in Nanaimo, I actually considered sending you a message to meet up. You've been around for a while, and I wanted to meet Manic. But it's shit like this that kept me from contacting you for a pint or a coffee. Your utter hatred of white people is evident in about half of your posts, and honestly, it's pretty gross.
When I was in Nanaimo, I actually considered sending you a message to meet up. You've been around for a while, and I wanted to meet Manic. But it's shit like this that kept me from contacting you for a pint or a coffee. Your utter hatred of white people is evident in about half of your posts, and honestly, it's pretty gross.
Seriously brown people don't punch each other in the nuts. You punch a brown guy in the nuts and a good chance you will get punched back. There are somethings white people do that other minority don't understand and there are a lot of things minorities do that white people don't understand.
Did you seriously bunch your buddies in the nuts when you where in Nanaimo?
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is the symbol of white power, but to some people it is. The tiki torch is not a Nazi swastika, but to some people it is. And to my original point, I'm not saying Trump is Hitler. But to some people, he is.
