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SumAznGuy 11-16-2020 02:07 PM

Just a tad under 2000 cases this weekend.
We suck.

inv4zn 11-16-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9006955)
Just a tad under 2000 cases this weekend.
We suck.

The 2000 is (somewhat) encouraging as the #/day hasn't shot up exponentially.

My concern is the 10,928 people currently ordered to stay home - I mean that's a pretty damn big number.

How many actually will, and where's the enforcement - and the consequences if you're caught breaking it?

HonestTea 11-16-2020 02:37 PM

There’s actually some positives in the numbers.

Taken from Reddit:
1/ The numbers are roughly the same for each of the three days, meaning perhaps growth has stalled out.

2/ Compared to past weekend numbers, the weekend over weekend growth rate is the lowest for several months. It's still going up, and that's bad, but it's beginning to slow down.

3/ The number of people added to active surveillance is less than the number of people who got COVID. This is a reversal of the state we saw most of last week, where the pool of potentially sick people was growing faster than it was draining (by people either exiting active monitoring without COVID or having their diagnosis confirmed).

4/ The number of active cases increased by MUCH less than the number of new cases.

MG1 11-16-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 9006951)
Lol I didn't even know it wasn't mandatory since I'm so used to wearing it anytime I go into any public building and the fact they hand out masks at the door if you don't have one.

IKEA hands out masks, too. Just left there. In fact, most places do. But Costco making those who can’t wear masks wear face shield. WOW. Kudos to them.

No more excuses, yo. If those people still refuse to wear face shield, they should be hauled away in a paddy wagon.

I’m glad businesses are taking the lead. After-all, it’s in their best interest. Protect their employees and avoid shut down of entire region.

Hakkaboy 11-16-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 9006962)
IKEA hands out masks, too. Just left there. In fact, most places do. But Costco making those who can’t wear masks wear face shield. WOW. Kudos to them.

No more excuses, yo. If those people still refuse to wear face shield, they should be hauled away in a paddy wagon.

I’m glad businesses are taking the lead. After-all, it’s in their best interest. Protect their employees and avoid shut down of entire region.

I do still see people at Costco that don't wear masks (or shields) though...:moderatorban:

320icar 11-16-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakkaboy (Post 9006977)
I do still see people at Costco that don't wear masks (or shields) though...:moderatorban:

This new rule would have just come into effect in the last ~48h or so. Otherwise It was just up to the members to choose to do the right thing. It also depends what Costco you go to.

Richmond Costco, though previously not a rule, had a solid 90% mask/shield compliance for members, and 100% of the staff (for months). That being said I hear the other Costco’s don’t have as vigilant members, most likely due to the racial make-up of each Costco location.

Still leagues better than Walmart/superstore etc where they don’t even enforce their employees to wear masks...

SumAznGuy 11-16-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 9006981)
Still leagues better than Walmart/superstore etc where they don’t even enforce their employees to wear masks...

Last time I was at Walmart, back in June, their machines didn't accept tap.
You had to touch the key pad to enter your code. Ewww

MG1 11-16-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 9006985)
Last time I was at Walmart, back in June, their machines didn't accept tap.
You had to touch the key pad to enter your code. Ewww

Still is. I was at the Lougheed Mall Walmart today. They even had brand new machines and they still do not accept tap. Dumb as fuck.


Gonna have to be a "dummy" and start wearing gloves. Hand sanitizer is not 100% effective. Unless they have hand washing stations there, not shopping there anymore. If enough people complain, something will be done.


Time to get some Karen's involved.

StylinRed 11-16-2020 06:15 PM

We were below 600 daily cases most of last week, and just over 600 a day by Friday, and the weekend brought us up to the mid 600s for daily cases... That's not a positive, that's a record breaking day each day of the weekend

Plus 9 people died over the weekend, we haven't had anything like that in months?

GLOW 11-16-2020 06:24 PM

i thought costco already that that rule they were handing out blue masks if you didn't have one, guess it was just optional...

MG1 11-16-2020 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 9007005)
i thought costco already that that rule they were handing out blue masks if you didn't have one, guess it was just optional...

Yes, you could refuse. If you insisted not wearing one, they just let you in. I don't think I've seen many non maskers, if any at all, during the times I've been at the two Costco's in my area.

Alpine 11-16-2020 07:21 PM

For reference, on average, over 12k people are hospitalized and 3.5k people die from the flu each year (numbers for Canada)

Not saying covid is fake (far from it), but I think our reactions would be much less severe if flu numbers were released on a daily basis in the past.

MG1 11-16-2020 07:33 PM

Next time I'm at Costco and spot a person without mask on...........
https://imgur.com/nuPeSl5

StylinRed 11-16-2020 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alpine (Post 9007014)
For reference, on average, over 12k people are hospitalized and 3.5k people die from the flu each year (numbers for Canada)

Not saying covid is fake (far from it), but I think our reactions would be much less severe if flu numbers were released on a daily basis in the past.

We're at 11,027 deaths and it hasn't been a year... So..

twitchyzero 11-16-2020 07:42 PM

we let our guard down and invited measles for a comeback
~1/4 mill fatalities globally last year

SkinnyPupp 11-16-2020 07:43 PM

Death rate for flu in Canada: 500-1500 per year (source: infection prevention and control Canada)

Covid deaths in Canada so far: 11,027
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Originally Posted by Alpine (Post 9007014)
I think our reactions would be much less severe if flu numbers were released on a daily basis in the past.

I think the reactions already aren't severe enough for a large part of the population, and you'd literally have to deny reality not to think it's very serious.

westopher 11-16-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StylinRed (Post 9007017)
We're at 11,027 deaths and it hasn't been a year... So..

Not to mention we had to shut the fuckin world down to hit those numbers. Imagine we did nothing, like we do for the flu every year?

welfare 11-16-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9007023)
Not to mention we had to shut the fuckin world down to hit those numbers. Imagine we did nothing, like we do for the flu every year?

Well no, that's not true. We have vaccines for the flu.
I'm genuinely curious though, what will happen if not enough of the population are willing to take a vaccine when it becomes available.
Confidence in it appears to be waning.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/...n-3-months-ago

CRS 11-16-2020 08:14 PM

If not enough of the population take it, we simply won't get herd immunity.

So anyone that does not take it is at risk of getting COVID and does not get passive protection.

welfare 11-16-2020 08:19 PM

As i understand it, if not enough of the population take it, the vaccine will be ineffective.
Or is that incorrect?

GLOW 11-16-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 9007016)
Next time I'm at Costco and spot a person without mask on...........
https://imgur.com/nuPeSl5

disappointed MG I was expecting something like:

:ilied:
https://i0.wp.com/media0.giphy.com/m...eVTG/giphy.gif

SkinnyPupp 11-16-2020 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 9007028)
As i understand it, if not enough of the population take it, the vaccine will be ineffective.
Or is that incorrect?

AFAIK it would be effective for the people who take it, but the virus would still be around, threatening at any time, maybe with the ability to mutate.

Kind of like there's a flu virus, and not many people take it. The ones that do are protected, but so many people don't that the flu just sticks around.

It also tells us how hard it will be to eradicate covid. The one thing covid deniers get right is that there should have been incentive to eradicate the flu, since most are shocked to find out how many people it kills. But the incentive was never there, because it was never out of control like covid.

To be able to get rid of covid, absolutely the huge majority of the world's population has to take a vaccine. There is definitely going to be a lot of effort to make that happen, and there's going to be a lot of resistance against it (some of it actually warranted IMO).

Although the 2 trials showed promising results so far, we are a long, long way from actually putting them to use.

All just IMO, I could be totally wrong here.

underscore 11-16-2020 09:43 PM

Also even though 90+% effectiveness is great, if you get the vaccine you're not guaranteed it worked fully. So you can be vaccinated but there's still a chance you'll get it if you don't have the additional protection of herd immunity.

I'm already annoyed enough by all the crap other people are putting us through with their selfishness so I'd be doubly pissed to get a vaccine but still get COVID because we can't get herd immunity. If that did happen it might be the point I'd consider moving.

CivicBlues 11-17-2020 06:12 AM

Businesses can do their part once vaccine rolls out to incentivize getting it . Want to get on a plane? Show your vaccine card. Want to watch a movie in the theatre? Show your vaccine card. Eat at a crowded chain restaurant like Earls/Cactus/Joeys? Card!

Hondaracer 11-17-2020 07:41 AM

Love dis dystopian timeline


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