coronavirus discussion

[pastarocket]

Breaking news:

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/cana...W32m&fs=e&s=cl

-federal government announced Friday it’s suspending random COVID-19 testing of international arrivals at all airports.

The program is being suspended from Saturday, June 11 until Saturday, June 30 — when current federal COVID-19 rules are set to expire.

In addition, COVID-19 testing for unvaccinated travellers won’t happen at the airport as of July 1, it will happen off-site.

In a news release, the Ministry of Transport billed the changes as something that would speed up wait times at Canada’s congested airports.

Finally, the feds are doing something to reduce the wait times for passengers at airports haha.


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[JDMDreams]

Go home Coronas it's monkey pox avian flu time

[Great68]

A few weeks ago we had norovirus run through the household. (Went through kid's daycare, then kid brought it home and it hit us).

Now THAT was fucking horrible. Couldn't even hold down a piece of bread in two days. Dry heaving over the toilet thinking "Fuck you stomach you're fucking empty!"

[Hondaracer]

Suspending those arrival tests isn’t going to do anything for the delays. That’s not where the delays happen.

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Suspending those arrival tests isn’t going to do anything for the delays. That’s not where the delays happen.

Maybe if security hires the lab testers? Lol


Just because you travel doesn’t mean you’ll get it.

My 8.5 month pregnant wife is just recovering from it. I travel for a living. Apparently I still haven’t had it. She’s about as cautious as they come… and I’m…. Not? Lol.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Suspending those arrival tests isnÂ’t going to do anything for the delays. ThatÂ’s not where the delays happen.

Yeah, I agree with you. The delays are related to a shortage of staff screening passengers at departure terminals in all Canadian airports.

There was recent news about CATSA hiring more than 850 people as screening agents.

Those new staff won't start working until they finish their training.

Meanwhile, some screening agents who are working at airports now would taking the time off from work during the summer. The 850+ new staff would just back fill for the screening agents who are not at work.

What is happening now at airports is another prime example of the short sightedness of our government. You would think that CATSA would anticipate a big increase in people taking flights for vacation after the past few years, by hiring more screening agents well before this summer.

[hud 91gt]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Yeah, I agree with you. The delays are related to a shortage of staff screening passengers at departure terminals in all Canadian airports.

There was recent news about CATSA hiring more than 850 people as screening agents.

Those new staff won't start working until they finish their training.

Meanwhile, some screening agents who are working at airports now would taking the time off from work during the summer. The 850+ new staff would just back fill for the screening agents who are not at work.

What is happening now at airports is another prime example of the short sightedness of our government. You would think that CATSA would anticipate a big increase in people taking flights for vacation after the past few years, by hiring more screening agents well before this summer.

I think that’s a pretty rough thing to say.

The airlines themselves are having staffing issues. I don’t think these screening jobs are very high paying jobs. Generally speaking, it seems the average intelligence of a screening officer is pretty low. I don’t want to say all of them… but it’s a thing. No one is able to find low wage workers at this point. Add some sort of “security training,” governed by Transport Canada, and you just asking for delays. Lol

[Gumby]

It's not official yet, but it's expected that the US will lift COVID testing requirements for air travelers entering the country, as of Sunday June 12th. That is, those traveling to the U.S. will no longer need a negative COVID-19 test one day before their flight to the country.

[Hondaracer]

All the vaccine passport shit etc. is a huge backlog and creates totally unnecessary waits.

I’ve flown 4 times during Covid and in the peak it was fine because no one was really travelling. On a recent trip to Mexico in March it seemed like more than half did not have the proper paperwork to he travelling, everyone had to register and aquire the stupid federal vaccine passport while waiting in line.. created hugeeeee delays. Scrap that shit already ffs.

Most airports in the world now are all going maskless, no vaccine passport etc. swear Canada does shit intentionally to dissuade leisure travel.

[pastarocket]

Originally Posted by hud 91gt

I think that’s a pretty rough thing to say.

The airlines themselves are having staffing issues. I don’t think these screening jobs are very high paying jobs. Generally speaking, it seems the average intelligence of a screening officer is pretty low. I don’t want to say all of them… but it’s a thing. No one is able to find low wage workers at this point. Add some sort of “security training,” governed by Transport Canada, and you just asking for delays. Lol

You make good points. I work with a colleague who also works for Air Canada.
She knows some of the screening agents at YVR.

The pay is definitely low for those agents.

[Qmx323]

These jobs are now and have had been competing with all these "boss-less" gig apps, which to be fair to end up paying alright compared to the work.

On top of that there is stuff like taskrabbit and etc that have more skilled gig opportunities.

[whitev70r]

Why do you think most of the screeners are immigrants?

Low pay.

[inv4zn]

so I was at YVR today dropping off some visitors. Their flight was 1pm, and they were like "we have Air Canada priority, so our check-in will be short, we'll get there by 11am." We were like no, so we get there at 9:50am.

The regular international AC line is quite crowded, but we get shown to the priority line a bit further down, and there's about 7 people ahead of my friends. So they're like "See, told you so".

Well, it took them an hour and 10 minutes to get checked in. Literally one person, and they were the slowest worker I've ever seen. In their defense there was apparently an unvaccinated woman yelling at the desk person because the government of her destination country won't let her in, and therefore they weren't allowing her to board.

Funny enough the actual security gates seemed pretty not crowded.

[Bouncing Bettys]

It's comical at this point.

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[Hondaracer]

Every shot outside of Canada is maskless. When he went to Ukraine etc. crying at the EU parliament, all maskless.

Do as I say, not as I do.

[68style]

Not that I see much reason to mask up anymore, but doesn't it make sense when every single person attending something is screened for vaccinations etc?

[Hondaracer]

So you think he flies with a mask on? Like the rest of his subjects

I know it’s confirmation bias but the only people I know who have had Covid multiple times are double vaxxed and boosted lol..while the unvaxxed people I know almost all have not had Covid.

His diagnosis also comes in a convenient time as the enquiry into the emergencies act is circling around him

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

So you think he flies with a mask on? Like the rest of his subjects

I know it’s confirmation bias but the only people I know who have had Covid multiple times are double vaxxed and boosted lol..while the unvaxxed people I know almost all have not had Covid.

His diagnosis also comes in a convenient time as the enquiry into the emergencies act is circling around him

Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious, and this isn't a knock against either group, but many vaccinated/boosted people are out doing stuff in public, so that's why they have or have had COVID. Meanwhile, perhaps the unvaccinated have not had COVID because they are still avoiding the general public.

[Hondaracer]

Nope, outside of the restrictions that were forced upon them all those people I know who are unvaxxed are now going to weddings with hundreds of people, casinos, events etc and have been since the vax passport was removed. Never caught it at its most contagious.

And lol..ducking Trudeau just had Covid in January.. and now again 5 months later?..

So his message there amounts to, you’ve had THREE vaccines in the last year and you’re still getting infected TWICE within 5 months…

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

while the unvaxxed people I know almost all have not had Covid.

That they know of.

No offense, but how do you still not get what "asymptomatic" means and how vaccines work?

[Great68]

Originally Posted by underscore

That they know of.

No offense, but how do you still not get what "asymptomatic" means and how vaccines work?

I'm going to think that someone stubborn enough not to get a vaccine, is also not going to visit a testing center even if they had symptoms.

[donk.]

Unvaxed people would never admit getting covid

Because then covid would exist

Spoiler!

cue the X Files theme song

[Gumby]

Originally Posted by Great68

I'm going to think that someone stubborn enough not to get a vaccine, is also not going to visit a testing center even if they had symptoms.

I think the point underscore was trying to make is that the unvaccinated person might have had COVID, except they were asymptomatic so they didn't even know they had it.

In addition, he mentioned "how vaccines work", so I think he's referring to herd immunity - i.e. most people are now vaccinated and do not have the virus, so if the unvaccinated were to hang out with the same people, there's less chance of catching the virus.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by underscore

That they know of.

No offense, but how do you still not get what "asymptomatic" means and how vaccines work?

[donk.]

Oh hoooondaracer, why you gotta stir the pot like that, don't you know people can't handle it on the e-web